World's climate warming faster than feared, scientists say

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I can do the same thing. We call it static electricity, and it’s the result of accumulating a negative charge on our skin then discharging it to a ground. If an electronic lock was poorly shielded and failed to an open state, then I see no issue with using it to unlock doors, though the people who paid for those locks probably weren’t amused.

Like I said: Electricity is simply electrons in motion. If electrons are in fact a deadly pollutant, then we have a major problem, because electrons are part of every single atom in the universe.
Electricity is more than “simply electrons in motion”. What do you think would happen, atmospherically, and environmentally, and to human beings, if the entire planet WENT INTO A BLACKOUT?

Wow, you can shoot bolts of electricity from your fingertips? When I did it, I was the only one. I guess I’m special. And I was the only one who could open electromagnetically locked doors. So how and why are people accumulating a negative charge? That doesn’t sound healthy.
 
Hey Monkey, guess what?

I used to shoot bolts of electricity from my fingertips. I could open electromagnetically locked doors. I was always zapping, and getting zapped. How do you think all of that happened?

There’s a huge piece of information that I’m not going to give you right now, just because I want to see what you’ll make of what I just said.
Oh my Gosh!!! Are you:

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Electricity is more than “simply electrons in motion”. What do you think would happen, atmospherically, and environmentally, and to human beings, if the entire planet WENT INTO A BLACKOUT?
For the purposes of this, I’m assuming that all knowledge of how to generate electrical power has been lost. Immediately, there would be no impact on the atmosphere and environment. Humans would grab some candles and wait for the power to come back on. If it went on for an extended period of time, then we would start seeing a reduction in pollutants from industries, as those require electric power to run. Humans would be panicking. In the VERY long term, there would be some improvement in air quality from the lack of heavy industry and humanity - its numbers greatly reduced due to rioting, disease, and lack of climate control in hostile environments - would be living a lifestyle similar to that in the mid-1800s. The Amish would be fine, and would probably be honored as repositories of knowledge that most of modern society has forgotten.
Wow, you can shoot bolts of electricity from your fingertips? When I did it, I was the only one. I guess I’m special. And I was the only one who could open electromagnetically locked doors. So how and why are people accumulating a negative charge? That doesn’t sound healthy.
One accumulates a negative charge by rubbing certain materials like wool in an environment with low humidity - the friction causes some weakly-bound electrons to move. It has no effect on the body, other than producing a slight shock when the discharge occurs. It can also happen during a thunderstorm, especially if one is close to a site where lightning is about to strike due to the charge accumulating in the air from the friction between water molecules and the rest of the atmospheric gases.

If electricity was actually a deadly pollutant, why is it the nervous system of every single animal uses it as a means of communication? In the human body, each neuron can generate between 60 and 70 mV.

Even before the first electrical grid was thought of, we lived just fine in a veritable soup of electromagnetic radiation from sources both external (the Sun) and internal (neurons and muscle cells).
 
Evidence that Electromagnetic Radiation is Genotoxic : The implications for the epidemiology of cancer and cardiac, neurological and reproductive effects
Dr. Neil Cherry (1946 -2003)
Professor of Environmental Health at Lincoln University, New Zealand
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From the Introduction 
      "This paper attempts to follow basic classical scientific principles to counter the dismissive and biased approach of industry and many government and international authorities, including the WHO and ICNIRP.  The principles found to be important are that biology reveals that brains, hearts and cells use electromagnetic signals, charged ions, voltage-gated ion channels, ion regulated gap junctions, all of which can be interfered with by external electromagnetic fields in subtle but vital ways in relation to health.  A primary physical principle of resonant absorption explains why external and internal signals that share the same part of the spectrum, resonantly exchange energy at levels well below the thermal threshold. (...)  Laboratory experiments provide evidence of effects.  Replicated and/or extended studies provided confirmation and establish an effect.  Multiple studies confirm and strengthen the cause and effect relationship.  In assessing genotoxicity, any evidence of genetic damage, cell death or neoplastic transformation is evidence of genotoxicity."
Here’s a word from the reputable Dr. Andrew Weil
dirtyelectricityfacts.com/images/main_quote.jpg

There’s actually plenty of information out there about electromagnetic toxicity, in humans. But my position is that electromagnetic toxicity impacts the environment itself, quite detrimentally!

The basic facts make an easy simplicity:

“scientists” have quoted a specific timeframe, the past 200 years, of notable, remarkable changes. That coincides perfectly with the poling & wiring of the planet which began in the mid 1800’s. It’s too easy. So straightforward, so unmistakable.

I wish I had a scholarship and lab. ugh!
 
Evidence that Electromagnetic Radiation is Genotoxic : The implications for the epidemiology of cancer and cardiac, neurological and reproductive effects
Dr. Neil Cherry (1946 -2003)
Professor of Environmental Health at Lincoln University, New Zealand
Code:
From the Introduction 
      "This paper attempts to follow basic classical scientific principles to counter the dismissive and biased approach of industry and many government and international authorities, including the WHO and ICNIRP.  The principles found to be important are that biology reveals that brains, hearts and cells use electromagnetic signals, charged ions, voltage-gated ion channels, ion regulated gap junctions, all of which can be interfered with by external electromagnetic fields in subtle but vital ways in relation to health.  A primary physical principle of resonant absorption explains why external and internal signals that share the same part of the spectrum, resonantly exchange energy at levels well below the thermal threshold. (...)  Laboratory experiments provide evidence of effects.  Replicated and/or extended studies provided confirmation and establish an effect.  Multiple studies confirm and strengthen the cause and effect relationship.  In assessing genotoxicity, any evidence of genetic damage, cell death or neoplastic transformation is evidence of genotoxicity."
That paper is talking about a very specific band of EM radiation: Microwaves. In high doses, yes, they are dangerous. His studies used exposures on the order of 75W/m^2. That is FAR beyond what one would experience in a normal environment. To receive that kind of dosage, one would have to be standing directly in front of an high-power transmitter while it’s on. Claiming that therefore EM radiation is universally dangerous is like claiming water is toxic because one can drown in it.
Here’s a word from the reputable Dr. Andrew Weil
dirtyelectricityfacts.com/images/main_quote.jpg
Reputable? This is a man who was censured by the FDA for directly selling “herbal supplements” that he claimed would cure the H1N1 flu. He’s a snake oil salesman with money and tenure, regarded by the University of Arizona as something of an embarrassment.
There’s actually plenty of information out there about electromagnetic toxicity, in humans. But my position is that electromagnetic toxicity impacts the environment itself, quite detrimentally!

The basic facts make an easy simplicity:

“scientists” have quoted a specific timeframe, the past 200 years, of notable, remarkable changes. That coincides perfectly with the poling & wiring of the planet which began in the mid 1800’s. It’s too easy. So straightforward, so unmistakable.
One could take any 200-year chunk and claim that “remarkable changes” happened. In all of our history, we’ve never been able to produce - in a controlled fashion - a fraction of the power that the Earth receives from the sun every day. In each 24-hour period, the sun hits us with a total of about 5.1x10^11 kW of energy in the visible spectrum alone. That’s the energy equivalent of an 18Mt nuclear bomb - just in visible light, not taking into account any infrared, radio, ultraviolet, or any contribution from the solar wind - each day.

If you’re claiming that something specific happened in the past ~200 years that is unique, you still have a wide range of things to choose from: The Industrial Revolution, American Revolution, French Revolution, Declaration of the Dogma of the Immaculate Conception, invention of the modern steam engine, The birth of Abraham Lincoln, widespread railroad networks… All of these have more chance of impacting the environment than the use of electricity.

That isn’t to sat that it is entirely impossible to use electromagnetic radiation to impact the environment. If one so wished, a sufficiently large antenna farm - say, the size of Rhode Island - hooked up to a dedicated power source that could serve the needs of an entire state like New York or California could be used to directly heat a small section of the atmosphere, possibly causing some minor change in local weather patterns.
I wish I had a scholarship and lab. ugh!
I’d start with a basic physics textbook.
 
That paper is talking about a very specific band of EM radiation: Microwaves. In high doses, yes, they are dangerous. His studies used exposures on the order of 75W/m^2. That is FAR beyond what one would experience in a normal environment. To receive that kind of dosage, one would have to be standing directly in front of an high-power transmitter while it’s on. Claiming that therefore EM radiation is universally dangerous is like claiming water is toxic because one can drown in it.

Reputable? This is a man who was censured by the FDA for directly selling “herbal supplements” that he claimed would cure the H1N1 flu. He’s a snake oil salesman with money and tenure, regarded by the University of Arizona as something of an embarrassment.

One could take any 200-year chunk and claim that “remarkable changes” happened. In all of our history, we’ve never been able to produce - in a controlled fashion - a fraction of the power that the Earth receives from the sun every day. In each 24-hour period, the sun hits us with a total of about 5.1x10^11 kW of energy in the visible spectrum alone. That’s the energy equivalent of an 18Mt nuclear bomb - just in visible light, not taking into account any infrared, radio, ultraviolet, or any contribution from the solar wind - each day.

If you’re claiming that something specific happened in the past ~200 years that is unique, you still have a wide range of things to choose from: The Industrial Revolution, American Revolution, French Revolution, Declaration of the Dogma of the Immaculate Conception, invention of the modern steam engine, The birth of Abraham Lincoln, widespread railroad networks… All of these have more chance of impacting the environment than the use of electricity.

That isn’t to sat that it is entirely impossible to use electromagnetic radiation to impact the environment. If one so wished, a sufficiently large antenna farm - say, the size of Rhode Island - hooked up to a dedicated power source that could serve the needs of an entire state like New York or California could be used to directly heat a small section of the atmosphere, possibly causing some minor change in local weather patterns.

I’d start with a basic physics textbook.
You can’t compare the poling & wiring of the planet (which is man-made and unnatural, none of it grew on its own) and all of the uses of electricity, to the sun.

Do you know where the Boston Edison is, right by the Mystic River? That’s the neighborhood I grew up in. I would stand at the fence of the Boston Edison, and buzz. But I didn’t even need to get that close to it - the entire environment was saturated in electromagnetic toxicity. The reason I had bolts of electricity shooting out from my fingertips, and why I got zapped all day long, is because of the electromagnetic toxic environment that I grew up in. And, I’m speaking minimally as to all I could say about the matter.

I have never, ever buzzed and got zapped because of sunlight absorption. But in an extremely electromagnetically toxic environment (which, New England IS, and it is super easy to show that), the detrimental impact and effect is greater than, and more than, just human beings. People would be in ostrich mode if they did not acknowledge that electricity itself is a prime suspect.
 
You can’t compare the poling & wiring of the planet (which is man-made and unnatural, none of it grew on its own) and all of the uses of electricity, to the sun.
True. One is a massive fusion reactor with a 10 billion year lifetime, and the other is - by comparison - a AAA battery. The 5.1x10^11 kW is power that could be recovered from the visible light emitted by the sun which hits earth. If you look at pure electric power, the solar wind drops from 4 to 900GW into the atmosphere per hour. We can’t come close to that level of power generation.
Do you know where the Boston Edison is, right by the Mystic River? That’s the neighborhood I grew up in. I would stand at the fence of the Boston Edison, and buzz. But I didn’t even need to get that close to it - the entire environment was saturated in electromagnetic toxicity. The reason I had bolts of electricity shooting out from my fingertips, and why I got zapped all day long, is because of the electromagnetic toxic environment that I grew up in. And, I’m speaking minimally as to all I could say about the matter.

I have never, ever buzzed and got zapped because of sunlight absorption. But in an extremely electromagnetically toxic environment (which, New England IS, and it is super easy to show that), the detrimental impact and effect is greater than, and more than, just human beings. People would be in ostrich mode if they did not acknowledge that electricity itself is a prime suspect.
You keep flipping between electricity being dangerous and “electromagnetic” toxicity. Which is it - electricity or electromagnetic radiation? They’re two completely different things.
 
Well I have, but I’ve not made your point for you. Heh. Anyhow, I happen to think that consciousness awakening and shifts also has something to do with environmental changes, and … human energy and emotion.
I’m curious, when u say “consciousness awakening and shifts”, are u referring to the “spiritual awakening” that has been supposedly prophesied for ages called “The Great Shift”, which supposedly is elevating each person’s vibration and consciousness to higher levels?

I’m pretty sure these are New Age concepts.
 
True. One is a massive fusion reactor with a 10 billion year lifetime, and the other is - by comparison - a AAA battery. The 5.1x10^11 kW is power that could be recovered from the visible light emitted by the sun which hits earth. If you look at pure electric power, the solar wind drops from 4 to 900GW into the atmosphere per hour. We can’t come close to that level of power generation.

You keep flipping between electricity being dangerous and “electromagnetic” toxicity. Which is it - electricity or electromagnetic radiation? They’re two completely different things.
Electromagnetic toxicity, also called electromagnetic pollution. When is the last time you shot bolts of *electricity *from your fingertips? VISIBLE bolts. It isn’t natural. It is a toxic condition, monkey. And that’s just a human being. I’m saying that the atmospheric collapse in 2008 had nothing whatsoever to do with a “solar minimum”, or anything solar at all. I’m saying it is electromagnetic toxicity. There was also intense magnetic activity that same year, which caused me to buzz and vibrate so badly that my arms actually stuck to my body. None of that was caused by the Moon or Jupiter or Mars, or the Sun. Electricity on Earth has put us in a gigantic box. It’s like we live inside of a TV or microwave. zap. zap. zap. That isn’t solar, monkey.
 
I’m curious, when u say “consciousness awakening and shifts”, are u referring to the “spiritual awakening” that has been supposedly prophesied for ages called “The Great Shift”, which supposedly is elevating each person’s vibration and consciousness to higher levels?

I’m pretty sure these are New Age concepts.
The mind is atmospheric. Radio and television have altered our minds, then the internet arrived and *really *changed things. I think most people’s minds are global, while other people’s minds are universal. I think Humanity’s collective awareness of itself can effect everything… from the universe, to the galaxy, to human affairs and even Earth’s weather patterns.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_unconscious

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_consciousness
 
Electromagnetic toxicity, also called electromagnetic pollution. When is the last time you shot bolts of *electricity *from your fingertips? VISIBLE bolts.
Unless you’re talking about something like the Emperor from Return of the Jedi, a few hours ago while petting my dog. Fur + low humidity = static electricity.
It isn’t natural.
Yes, it is.
It is a toxic condition, monkey.
No, it isn’t.
And that’s just a human being. I’m saying that the atmospheric collapse in 2008 had nothing whatsoever to do with a “solar minimum”, or anything solar at all. I’m saying it is electromagnetic toxicity.
Exactly what IS “electromagnetic toxicity”? You keep jumping from one thing to another with no apparent connection between the two. If it’s electromagnetic radiation, say so. If it’s electricity, say so. In either of those cases, you’re still missing just how puny our electrical grid is in the face of the massive nuclear furnace 93 million miles away. It’s like claiming that pouring a canteen of water into Lake Michigan is going to cause flooding.
There was also intense magnetic activity that same year, which caused me to buzz and vibrate so badly that my arms actually stuck to my body.
Wat.
one of that was caused by the Moon or Jupiter or Mars, or the Sun. Electricity on Earth has put us in a gigantic box. It’s like we live inside of a TV or microwave. zap. zap. zap. That isn’t solar, monkey.
The Moon is a cold lump of rock. Jupiter is a big ball of gas with a powerful magnetic field, but it’s too far away to affect us. Mars is a cold lump of rock with some remnants of an atmosphere. The Sun is a massive, rapidly spinning ball of plasma that consumes 600 million tons of hydrogen per second in a continual fusion reaction that has been going on for about 5 billion years. It dominates all space in a sphere about a light-year in diameter. We’ve seen solar storms cause electrical currents that will rapidly burn out most modern technology. You really are not grasping the sheer scale difference between human capabilities and the Sun. It really is like blaming a massive earthquake on a child playing with a toy hammer.
 
Unless you’re talking about something like the Emperor from Return of the Jedi, a few hours ago while petting my dog. Fur + low humidity = static electricity. Yes, it is. No, it isn’t. Exactly what IS “electromagnetic toxicity”? You keep jumping from one thing to another with no apparent connection between the two. If it’s electromagnetic radiation, say so. If it’s electricity, say so. In either of those cases, you’re still missing just how puny our electrical grid is in the face of the massive nuclear furnace 93 million miles away. It’s like claiming that pouring a canteen of water into Lake Michigan is going to cause flooding.

Wat.The Moon is a cold lump of rock. Jupiter is a big ball of gas with a powerful magnetic field, but it’s too far away to affect us. Mars is a cold lump of rock with some remnants of an atmosphere. The Sun is a massive, rapidly spinning ball of plasma that consumes 600 million tons of hydrogen per second in a continual fusion reaction that has been going on for about 5 billion years. It dominates all space in a sphere about a light-year in diameter. We’ve seen solar storms cause electrical currents that will rapidly burn out most modern technology. You really are not grasping the sheer scale difference between human capabilities and the Sun. It really is like blaming a massive earthquake on a child playing with a toy hammer.
You diminish the point I’m making, and you’re using ridicule to do it. No, what I’m talking about is NOT like claiming that pouring a canteen of water into Lake Michigan is going to cause flooding.

Why on Earth should I wear a heavy lead apron on my chest when having x-rays of my teeth?

I think I’m done talking with you, monkey.
 
You diminish the point I’m making, and you’re using ridicule to do it. No, what I’m talking about is NOT like claiming that pouring a canteen of water into Lake Michigan is going to cause flooding.
Then just define the term. Exactly what is “electromagnetic toxicity”?
Why on Earth should I wear a heavy lead apron on my chest when having x-rays of my teeth?
Because x-rays are extremely short-wavelength EM radiation with enough energy to be ionizing.
I think I’m done talking with you, monkey.
That is your choice, but I would still implore you to both read a basic physics textbook and seek professional help.
 
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