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WhatMeWorry
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So does anyone object to the “Esther Williams” suit styles? Or is that still too racy?
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wcknight
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IF only some of the folks here were in my kid’s circle of friends, I would feel a lot more secure letting her go out on dates.
Unfortunately at a certain point (21 now), we can only make suggestions and no longer make demands. SO far, I have not encountered any of the more unsavory characters around, most of the guys have been on the tamer side. Maybe one or two, I would have strongly objected to had I known more about them beforehand.
I can only pray that she makes the right choices now that she is ‘officially’ an adult. I will continue to offer advice, but it’s tough in this day and age to steer kids in the right direction.
In the old country (China), one could pick and choose, who a daughter could date or even marry. Now they are on their own. When I was dating I would have balked at my parents picking a partner for me or even suggesting a partner, now I regret that I don’t have that choice for my daughter. Now I see there was some wisdom, in having things done in the old fashioned way.
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Unfortunately at a certain point (21 now), we can only make suggestions and no longer make demands. SO far, I have not encountered any of the more unsavory characters around, most of the guys have been on the tamer side. Maybe one or two, I would have strongly objected to had I known more about them beforehand.
I can only pray that she makes the right choices now that she is ‘officially’ an adult. I will continue to offer advice, but it’s tough in this day and age to steer kids in the right direction.
In the old country (China), one could pick and choose, who a daughter could date or even marry. Now they are on their own. When I was dating I would have balked at my parents picking a partner for me or even suggesting a partner, now I regret that I don’t have that choice for my daughter. Now I see there was some wisdom, in having things done in the old fashioned way.
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jennstall
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I’m not sure since I usually don’t bother watching the summer games, but I believe it had to have been over the last 6 years or so, maybe less. I probably read about it in some women’s sports magazine or Sports Illustrated. Before the new suits, women just wore one-piece swimsuits in the standard style that’s been around since before I was in high school (over 20 years ago). I’m assuming men wore those tiny little speedos, but I’ve never actually watched a male swim competition so I couldn’t say for sure
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CarolAnnSFO
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If Mary were walking the earth today, I think the swimwear she’d wear (if any) would depend on what country she had grown up in.
It is possible to find modest bathing suits, even among the “regular” stores and brands. There are suits with a high-ish necks (like racing suits) and a skirted bottom. If that isn’t enough coverage, you could always add a sarong or pareo over the suit.
I just think it’s the height of hypocrisy to complain about womens’ immodest suits, and maintain that it’s OK for men to wear any kind of swimsuit they want, no matter how revealing.
We get that same old tired baloney dredged up about how men are visual and women aren’t. Well, if women aren’t supposed to be visually stimulated, then God “wired” me wrong!
(Just for the record, my preferred swimsuit is high neck, skirt bottom, with a pareo, in a swimming pool, and shorts (not too short) and a t-shirt for ocean, river, or lake
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It is possible to find modest bathing suits, even among the “regular” stores and brands. There are suits with a high-ish necks (like racing suits) and a skirted bottom. If that isn’t enough coverage, you could always add a sarong or pareo over the suit.
I just think it’s the height of hypocrisy to complain about womens’ immodest suits, and maintain that it’s OK for men to wear any kind of swimsuit they want, no matter how revealing.
We get that same old tired baloney dredged up about how men are visual and women aren’t. Well, if women aren’t supposed to be visually stimulated, then God “wired” me wrong!
(Just for the record, my preferred swimsuit is high neck, skirt bottom, with a pareo, in a swimming pool, and shorts (not too short) and a t-shirt for ocean, river, or lake
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chevalier
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To be honest, I don’t fuss about bikinis. If a guy can’t keep his mind from living sex scenes when he sees a woman in a swimsuit, even a bikini, something is wrong with him. I wouldn’t say the same about the “sexy” swimsuits, i.e. designed to be sexy, not just ones that happen to leave lots of room for tanning.
And yeah, it doesn’t seem to me that women are all so much less visual than guys are. I suppose guys in briefs are much more of a problem for a girl than girls in even minimalistic panties can be for a guy. As for chests, it works both ways.
So, to sum up (for the Nth time in this thread), I have a problem with things that are designed sexually to arouse and with behaviour aimed at sexual stimulation. If the girl wears a bikini and behaves casually, I can’t recall ever having problems. The most I’ve got is something along the lines "Damn, she’s so pretty. Wouldn’t mind to get a girlfriend like that ". I don’t get any evil stuff from looking on nude paintings or sculptures. And they don’t even have swimsuits on. Something I turn my eyes away from is swimsuits that display too much of the pelvic area (like something a girl would need to shave to wear) or of the behind. I don’t enjoy the aggressively provoking tops, either. Other than that… well, girls are cute. Aren’t they supposed to be?
And yeah, it doesn’t seem to me that women are all so much less visual than guys are. I suppose guys in briefs are much more of a problem for a girl than girls in even minimalistic panties can be for a guy. As for chests, it works both ways.
So, to sum up (for the Nth time in this thread), I have a problem with things that are designed sexually to arouse and with behaviour aimed at sexual stimulation. If the girl wears a bikini and behaves casually, I can’t recall ever having problems. The most I’ve got is something along the lines "Damn, she’s so pretty. Wouldn’t mind to get a girlfriend like that ". I don’t get any evil stuff from looking on nude paintings or sculptures. And they don’t even have swimsuits on. Something I turn my eyes away from is swimsuits that display too much of the pelvic area (like something a girl would need to shave to wear) or of the behind. I don’t enjoy the aggressively provoking tops, either. Other than that… well, girls are cute. Aren’t they supposed to be?
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crusader4life
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There’s nothing wrong with a good quality one piece suit; but it needs to be modest and in a color that won’t show everything…(I work as a lifeguard and there’s always an interesting array of suits on girls (and sometimes guys) these days!)
From being in swim team I’ve learned to love one piece race suits. I don’t see how women could swim in a dress-like suit, that slows you down and makes swimming harder…but I guess I’m all for speed. I tried swimming in a modest two piece, and I found it hard to swim because I was constantly readjusting the suit. I don’t know how girls in bikinis jump, dive, water ski, or whatever without having any troubles.
From being in swim team I’ve learned to love one piece race suits. I don’t see how women could swim in a dress-like suit, that slows you down and makes swimming harder…but I guess I’m all for speed. I tried swimming in a modest two piece, and I found it hard to swim because I was constantly readjusting the suit. I don’t know how girls in bikinis jump, dive, water ski, or whatever without having any troubles.
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AlanFromWichita
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OK, well, if I were to be honest, I like to see women provocatively dressed. Sinful, yes, but my eyes like candy. The tough part is not to let them see me “oogling” them. Luckily, I am no longer troubled by carnal desires todo more than just look!
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Arwen037
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Okay, I’m posting again. I really do think that if our Holy Mother was here, she would wear a swimsuit for SWIMMING. Do I think she would be in some tiny bikini sunning on the beach? No. Would she wear a modest one or two piece? Yes, I believe so. If I went to the pool wearing a sleeved, at least knee-lengthed, and high necked swimsuit, I would get a LOT more stares and have a lot more guys looking at me than if I wear my spaghetti strap shirt-like top with bikini skirt swimsuit.
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AlanFromWichita
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It just occurred to me that in a way this thread is refreshing. At least we’re speculating on what Mary might do when other people are watching. 
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chevalier
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Following what Arwen037 said, I would suggest a casual swimsuit. Casual is the key here. If immodest were casual in a given environment, she wouldn’t be there at all in the first place. 
I suppose the supermodest swimsuits, if worn on the average beach, have more of a holier-than-thou effect than a chastity-inspiring one. After all, one can always go to a more secluded place and stick with family or close friends.
As for looking, it depends how you look… I guess. Girls tend to be able to tell if you’re sincerely beholding their beauty or if you’re oggling them like a lump of meat. Or something in between. They tend to have a sense for that. When they don’t, they get in trouble.
I suppose the supermodest swimsuits, if worn on the average beach, have more of a holier-than-thou effect than a chastity-inspiring one. After all, one can always go to a more secluded place and stick with family or close friends.
As for looking, it depends how you look… I guess. Girls tend to be able to tell if you’re sincerely beholding their beauty or if you’re oggling them like a lump of meat. Or something in between. They tend to have a sense for that. When they don’t, they get in trouble.
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tuopaolo
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Here’s an interesting counterpart to the OP question: would Jesus wear a swimsuit? I can’t imagine Jesus wearing a speedo.
About attracting attention with a “supermodest” swimsuit … well someone has to start wearing them for them to catch on and eventually not attract attention. If every Catholic were to start wearing them then they wouldn’t stand out singly but would perhaps potentially be a powerful witness – might even make the news and allow Catholic commentators to explain some Christian truth.
About attracting attention with a “supermodest” swimsuit … well someone has to start wearing them for them to catch on and eventually not attract attention. If every Catholic were to start wearing them then they wouldn’t stand out singly but would perhaps potentially be a powerful witness – might even make the news and allow Catholic commentators to explain some Christian truth.
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romano
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No, I don’t think you’re a prude at all. I think you’re one of the few left who has some standards. People have been convinced, largely by the media, that anything goes, anything is OK. Scruffiness is OK. Sloppiness is OK. Extreme immodesty is OK. Filth is OK.
It’s all part of the paganization, the barbarization, of the masses. You are to be congratulated on not going along with the prevailing madness.
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The_Hidden_Life
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I saw the family that makes these suits interviewed on a local tv program in Seattle. Very nice family and the girls and ladies in the family all modeled the suits. I like them too. With the wet-suit style undersuit, I would prefer the over piece to be a bit shorter than knee-length though, but knee-length is preferable to thigh-length!
I’ve tried on skirted swimsuits commercially available and found them too short. In fact, they look less modest sometimes than models without skirts because the skirt is really not cut full enough to hang right. It ends up being a tube of spandex wrapped around your thighs, which inevitably rides up and looks like it is exposing you.
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CarolAnnSFO
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I actually like the Wholesomewear suits (the girls’ model is cute!), although I wouldn’t expect competitive swimmers to wear anything like that. If you took just the bottom half of the culotte model, it could be redesigned to make a good, modest swimsuit for a man.
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I would definitely recommend wearing a sarong or pareo over your suit if you want the skirted look, but find the commercial models are too short. If the swimsuit doesn’t come with a sarong or pareo, I think it would be easy to make one from a piece of suitable fabric (assuming basic sewing skills). Although sarongs and pareos are usually thought of as coverups to wear after you get out of the water, there’s no reason you can’t wear them right into the pool.
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STIOFAN
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No !!!
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chevalier
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I don’t know what a speedo means, but while I can’t imagine Jesus wearing anything provocative, I can’t imagine Him as a prude (in the sense of false modesty). He never overdid things.
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The_Hidden_Life
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“Speedos” are the skin-tight itsy-bitsy men’s swimwear that are like spandex underwear. Like the old Olympic swimmers used to wear. Generally, they leave nothing about a wearer’s “family jewels” to the imagination as they are quite tight and thin.
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OriginalJS
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Fashions and opinions about what is proper come and go, wax and wane. There are classical paintings even in Rome that show men and women nude. And think of Michaelangelo’s David. In some eras people believed that the body was created by God, was beautiful and was nothing to be ashamed of. In others, the body was to be hidden. In some countries Muslim women must be covered from head to toe, even sometimes to the degree that only the hands may be seen and this for professed religious reasons.
It is incongruous to think of Holy Mary wearing a 21st century swimsuit; but it is also difficult (for me) to imagine Jesus wearing a two-button business suit.
It is incongruous to think of Holy Mary wearing a 21st century swimsuit; but it is also difficult (for me) to imagine Jesus wearing a two-button business suit.
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Black_Jaque
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I always thought that modesty is related to moderation, that is to say, not overboard in either direction.
I find the “that’s just tough” attitude of women troubling. Isn’t there some sort of middle ground that can be worked out? I recognize that it would be expecting too much of women to wear something that soaks up 50 lbs of water. On the other hand, I believe men are wired to be more easily visually stimulated.
Just speaking from personal experience, I have had miserable experiences at swiming places and water parks because of the constant bombardment of stimulating images. I don’t mind being responsible for the custody of my own eyes, but I’ve been to places where the women’s fashion made my responsibility a trial. I was quite exhausted at the end of the day.
Maybe I would just accept this as my lot in life, except for the fact that I know there are bathing suits available that would be BOTH modest AND practical/comfortable.
For example: I’ve seen some one-piece suits that fit tight for practical swimming, but the way they are cut is not nearly so suggestive. The key here is the way the leg-holes are cut. One piece suits that come way up to expose the hips are more eye-catching than one piece suits that are cut lower. Now I have a hard time believing that I would be asking soooo much of a woman to wear a more modest one-piece suit. I just don’t believe the extra 3" of fabric will weigh her down.
I suppose a two-piece suit might be alright. I’m thinking of something where the top looks more like a woman’s running top, and the bottom is more like men’s briefs (Fruit-of-the-Loom).
I am curious to read that some women here claim they are as strongly stimulated by visual as men. I don’t deny that there isn’t SOME visual stimulation for women, but I have a hard time believing the stimulation is *as strong *in women as it is in men. It doesn’t answer why gas stations will have 1/2 dozen different men’s porno magazines, and nothing but romance novels for women. It doesn’t explain why there’s gentlemen’s clubs that offer nude women 24/7, but Chip-n-Dales is only in town for the weekend.
I find the “that’s just tough” attitude of women troubling. Isn’t there some sort of middle ground that can be worked out? I recognize that it would be expecting too much of women to wear something that soaks up 50 lbs of water. On the other hand, I believe men are wired to be more easily visually stimulated.
Just speaking from personal experience, I have had miserable experiences at swiming places and water parks because of the constant bombardment of stimulating images. I don’t mind being responsible for the custody of my own eyes, but I’ve been to places where the women’s fashion made my responsibility a trial. I was quite exhausted at the end of the day.
Maybe I would just accept this as my lot in life, except for the fact that I know there are bathing suits available that would be BOTH modest AND practical/comfortable.
For example: I’ve seen some one-piece suits that fit tight for practical swimming, but the way they are cut is not nearly so suggestive. The key here is the way the leg-holes are cut. One piece suits that come way up to expose the hips are more eye-catching than one piece suits that are cut lower. Now I have a hard time believing that I would be asking soooo much of a woman to wear a more modest one-piece suit. I just don’t believe the extra 3" of fabric will weigh her down.
I suppose a two-piece suit might be alright. I’m thinking of something where the top looks more like a woman’s running top, and the bottom is more like men’s briefs (Fruit-of-the-Loom).
I am curious to read that some women here claim they are as strongly stimulated by visual as men. I don’t deny that there isn’t SOME visual stimulation for women, but I have a hard time believing the stimulation is *as strong *in women as it is in men. It doesn’t answer why gas stations will have 1/2 dozen different men’s porno magazines, and nothing but romance novels for women. It doesn’t explain why there’s gentlemen’s clubs that offer nude women 24/7, but Chip-n-Dales is only in town for the weekend.
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chevalier
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If we rooted out porn, we would probably end up able to do coed skinny dipping without sinning. It’s the way you looked at it what counts, but that way shouldn’t be exploited, either, and the other person shouldn’t make it too hard on you.
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