Would pro-choicers favor abortion of 2-year olds?

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If humans had a two-year gestation time, it would be made into a greater argument in favor of the unfair burden on a woman to go to term with a pregnancy she does not want. There might be a smaller window in which a woman would have to end the pregnancy, rather than the standard of viability that was in Roe v Wade (which is shorter than some want now).
Tis_Bearself said:
Of course they wouldn’t advocate for it. Bambi Factor would kick in. Too cute to abort.
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That does not explain the support for partial-birth abortion.
openmind77 said:
First of all, nobody that I know of advocates abortion. They advocate keeping abortion legal.
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Maybe no one you know personally, but there are definitely “limit the population” advocates who are pro-abortion for other people who have already had “enough” children. (See: China’s one-child plan)
If you don’t think there are people like that who consider themselves “environmentalists” in this country, think again.
 
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Fauken said:
By insulting a Catholic audience on a Catholic forum? By slandering us and saying Catholics don’t care for the poor? You want to make a point about poverty and abortion, fine, but don’t lie to do so.
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No I’m forcing you to look in the mirror.
 
Mmhmm… the anti-natalist and better-to-abort-than-let-the-child-exist-at-all movements are growing. Truly. I used to think people were being ironic.
 
PetraG said:
That does not explain the support for partial-birth abortion.
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‘Partial birth abortion’ is extremely rare. When it is done the foetus is often already dead. Opposition to it has been promoted in the US as a way of causing embarrassment to pro-choice politicians who can be accused of being happy to see full-term babies killed. As ‘pro-lifers’ you should be as vociferous in seeking medical solutions to the one-third of zygotes, embryos and foetuses that die as a result of natural abortion. But doing something about that very common occurrence is not as easy as raging against rare and extreme events in late-term abortion.
 
FiveLinden said:
As ‘pro-lifers’ you should be as vociferous in seeking medical solutions to the one-third of zygotes, embryos and foetuses that die as a result of natural abortion.
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It’s a bit apples to oranges, as Catholics make a distinction between a natural death and intent to kill one’s own child/prevent procreation. While the death of an innocent is tragic, what makes abortion grave matter is the disordered intent of the parents/doctors.
 
Is not the name itself “partial birth abortion” both sensational as well as inaccurate from the medical perspective?
 
Yes, the same people that think that late-term abortion is ok would likely be fine aborting a 2 year old fetus as well. Because let’s face it, everyone knows that a 7-8-9 month old fetus is alive and is not a clump of cells and could survive outside of the womb. And just wait, these same people will be pushing very hard for legalized euthanasia soon, they have already started really. And they know these people can’t be argued to not be alive, so they couch these killings as as “death with dignity”.
 
Wesrock said:
It’s a bit apples to oranges, as Catholics make a distinction between a natural death and intent to kill one’s own child/prevent procreation. While the death of an innocent is tragic, what makes abortion grave matter is the disordered intent of the parents/doctors.
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Yes, true. And on this philosophical basis, many Catholics proceed to attempt to control the power of the state to make others, with different views, comply with theirs.
 
meltzerboy2 said:
Is not the name itself “partial birth abortion” both sensational as well as inaccurate from the medical perspective?
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I’m just curious why you think that the term partial birth abortion is sensationalism and innacurate?
 
I recall a physician saying the term has no medical meaning. How can a baby be partially born? Either they are born or not. It is also sensationalist because it gives the impression that one is killing a baby after birth. As I noted, in Judaism, if the mother’s life is in danger, abortion is required including up to the moment of birth, but not beyond, because at that point, the baby is regarded as a fully viable human being with equal rights as a person to those of the mother.
 
It’s called a partial birth abortion because the legs and body are pulled out through the cervix and birth canal, leaving the head inside because it’s too big to fit before the brain is removed and the skull crushed. After that point, the baby’s body is fully “born”. This type of procedure was outlawed in the U.S. with good reason.
 
I am not a physician, but I would say that in such a case, the birth has virtually taken place and the procedure was justly outlawed.
 
Fauken said:
Saying Catholics kill babies by not fighting poverty is neither respectful to Catholicism and is incendiary and divisive. Not to mention a lie.
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There is an underlying fact that the ability to afford a child may be a crisis and may be viewed by some woman that seek a termination to be a “reason”. I know of no woman who would be happy at the idea of having an abortion, it doesn’t work that way. But low income and barely making it could be one reason why someone may decide this is an option.

We are not arguing the idea that all persons (and yes, the fetus is a child) are made in the image and likeness of God, but pro-life must be pro-active. The cause calls for it to be.
 
DENNYINMI said:
We are not arguing the idea that all persons (and yes, the fetus is a child) are made in the image and likeness of God, but pro-life must be pro-active. The cause calls for it to be.
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You didn’t read what he said earlier.
 
I read the thread up to your post and felt the urge to facilitate a response, so excuse me if indeed there was something adjacent that you were referring to. I felt compelled to respond to it though, only in regards to a difficulty that may need to be addressed when dealing with this issue, namely poverty.
 
The post in question was deleted. He basically called Catholics baby killers for allegedly only caring about babies being born and not what happened afterwards to them. @Sbee0 got it quoted:
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Would pro-choicers favor abortion of 2-year olds? Social Justice
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RealisticCatholic said:
What I mean is this: Just pretend that human development was set up in such a way that women didn’t give birth until their baby was 2 years old (instead of 9 months).
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Thought experiences like this that go completely against biology is a waste of time imo.
 
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