Would pro-choicers favor abortion of 2-year olds?

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If you go back, that phrase “Partial Birth Abortion” was created by the National Right to Life/politicians in order to horrify people. The political construction of language is a fascinating.
 
Anrakyr said:
Yes I did because it’s frustrating to watch Catholics outlaw something instead of solving the issue why people have abortions.

Great, abortions are illegal now in this hypothetical world. All the reasons that causes people to want them will push you right back where you were before. Soon the political winds blow the other way and all that lobbying was for nothing.
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Please don’t create straw men. The audience for your posts is a tiny minority of people in the pro life movement, it is not anything resembling the view of Catholics and certainly not Catholics on this forum.
 
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I certainly understand what you’re saying, but your argument has one big flaw. We do want to help people to not need or want abortions, but that is not our ultimate goal. Rather, we want people to understand that abortions are always immoral and cruel, no matter the circumstance, etc.
 
TheLittleLady said:
Why does the medical profession screen for things like Down’s Syndrome or Dwarfism? It is so these with severe fetal abnormalities can be aborted.
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Actually, I had an ultrasound test for Down Syndrome because if my child were to have that genetic makeup I wanted to be prepared as a parent. (I didn’t have amniocentesis because the procedure poses some risk for the child, which didn’t seem justified by the good of obtaining information.)

I’m not alone in that:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/he-s...vSWRy8kkEh6dGmvAAdYZPcaII4U7IhiCcqzSyCgPm22Xb
“Time healed us. We needed time to sort though our own insecurities about her diagnosis. We had to get comfortable with the idea that she would be different. And when we did, we realized that it didn’t matter… we were going to love this baby girl with all of our might.”

“Perspective on the last year has changed us. We feel as though we have been stripped of all the layers we add to ourselves over the years… things you tell yourself are necessary. When you get down to the core, you realize what is really important. We had a new heart to love. A new soul to cherish. She has been the reason for the light in our eyes.”

“For her, we are forever grateful. And we feel so honored God chose us to be her parents.”

People who intend to love their children no matter what still get prenatal testing, because knowing does help.
 
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You are still on the rarer side of things.

Thank God that you have an open heart!
 
I know plenty of people that advocate abortion.

“Abortion on Demand, and without apology”
“Shout Your Abortion”
“Thank God for Abortion”
The woman who proudly filmed her abortion.

There are tons of people who profess publicly their love for abortion.
 
LovingWife822 said:
I know plenty of people that advocate abortion.

“Abortion on Demand, and without apology”
“Shout Your Abortion”
“Thank God for Abortion”
The woman who proudly filmed her abortion.

There are tons of people who profess publicly their love for abortion.
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Sure, they may say abortion should be available under all circumstances. But nobody said abortion is preferable to actually having a baby - at least not any mainstream pro-choice people . You should name at-least one with a quote/link.
 
Wait, so first your claim was that no one advocates abortion, just legalizing abortion. To which I disagreed

Now you are asking for someone who says abortion is better than having a child.

Those are two very, very different things.

There a lot of mainstream people who frame abortion as a good thing, something that is no big deal, a lighthearted issue. That isn’t the same as advocating abortion over birth broadly. But it is still an extremely harmful stance.
 
LovingWife822 said:
I know plenty of people that advocate abortion.

“Abortion on Demand, and without apology”
“Shout Your Abortion”
“Thank God for Abortion”
The woman who proudly filmed her abortion.

There are tons of people who profess publicly their love for abortion.
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Yup. I’d say those people, mostly radical left 2nd wave feminists love the idea of abortion as display of women’s power against the patriarchy - as opposed to loving the act of abortion.
 
I don’t think, practically, there is a difference. Their delivery is the same- and the result is the same - the widespread love, and acceptance, of legalized abortion.
 
LovingWife822 said:
Wait, so first your claim was that no one advocates abortion, just legalizing abortion. To which I disagreed

Now you are asking for someone who says abortion is better than having a child.

Those are two very, very different things.

There a lot of mainstream people who frame abortion as a good thing, something that is no big deal, a lighthearted issue. That isn’t the same as advocating abortion over birth broadly. But it is still an extremely harmful stance.
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Advocating/promoting abortion means favoring it over having a child. Nobody in their right mind does that. All they want is abortion to be legal and available.
 
I highly disagree with the notion that to promote abortion you must favor it over having a child.

Promoting it is making it okay, acceptable, normal.

That’s like saying to promote sexual promiscuity, one must explicitly state that being promiscuous is better than not being promiscuous.

No one says that, at least very few people do, but promiscuity is still promoted; meaning accepted and normalized.
 
LovingWife822 said:
I highly disagree with the notion that to promote abortion you must favor it over having a child.

Promoting it is making it okay, acceptable, normal.

That’s like saying to promote sexual promiscuity, one must explicitly state that being promiscuous is better than not being promiscuous.

No one says that, at least very few people do, but promiscuity is still promoted; meaning accepted and normalized.
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OK, provide me with one link where abortion is being PROMOTED (not just saying it should be available/legal) by a mainstream pro-choice person (out of the tons that you know of).
 
I’ve found this to be a very small minority, yet vocal. When one sits down and speaks to people in real life, it is interesting to find that almost everyone has a line. Be it the “life/health of the mother” line or the “disabled fetus” line or the “gender selection” line.
 
By my definition promoted means normalized and accepted. And in that case, all you have to do is look at CNN, ABC, any talk show. It’s all over.
 
Yes, for instance, those who would abort a girl baby because they want a son.
 
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