Really? People have to kneel during the concencration…if someone doesn’t have reverence…do you think they really think about what is going on at that moment? I’m not sure a forced posture is going to have that effect…just my opinion:shrug:
If such Posture symbolizes True Humility in Reverence it should have an effect if it is taught thoughtfully from the Ambo.
Its a feed for shut in Catholics done by some local Catholic Knights.
Annabelle Marie,
Ultimately; this statistic depends on your Catholic source.
I’m not talking about you kneeling. Obviously there are people that are very aware of what is going on…and are very reverent regardless of how they receive.
Why do some people insist that those of us who can’t kneel are “making an issue”? Someone said that you can always “consult” you priest and “make arrangements” about not being able to kneel. If you read the thread you’d see those posts (about 3-4) about that. I think that this singles out those who cannot kneel. I was refused communion once because I was told to kneel and the priest walked away. It IS an issue.
I know what you mean. Sometimes I do not stick my tongue out or say “Amen” when I’m in the Roman RiteLast night I went to the Byzantine Liturgy for the Dormition of the Theotokos and when I went to receive communion I was not thinking straight and I was sticking my tongue out, and the priest had to tell me not to stick it out. When you often go to different rites sometime it is difficult to avoid confusion
Actually he cannot. Unless he wants every Eastern Catholic Church to turn Orthodox in an instant
Please read back, we were talking about the Liturgical Spoon in the Byzantine Rite.
Okay, see!Actually he cannot. Unless he wants every Eastern Catholic Church to turn Orthodox in an instant
Well, not really. If the change came from our Patriarch and Synod, then we would accept it gladly (okay, so there would be some resistance, as with any change). The Pope is also (albeit not using the title but functionally he is) the Patriarch of the Roman Church. So he does have direct control over the Roman Rite, the same way the Bishops of each particular Eastern Church has over theirs.
Me too. If I had to receive Communion on the tongue, I would not leave, but I would be a lot more reluctant to receive. I’m sure a panic attack in the middle of Mass would not go over well
I’m just wondering who said yes.
I’ll let it rest here. I really get confused with the whole communion with Rome, Low Petrine/High Petrine, etc views.
I agree its difficult for a Roman Catholic because you only have one person to look at, the Pope. He is both Supreme Pontiff and Patriarch for the Roman Church. That is why he removed the title “Patriarch of the West,” because to be Pope is to be Patriarch of the West. Its one and the same. But in the East its different. The Pope is like the President of the United States for us. He governs in matters of the entire Church as a whole, but for each one of us, we have our own governors who run our own Churches.
So then using the same analogy, this discipline is a state matter, not federal matter and so he has no jurisdiction?
I would say he has not direct authority on the matter. He has influence that is for sure. He can sway the synod and the patriarch if he wants. But that is another matter. Also, I do not believe the Papacy is meant to be so. While the doctrine on Papal Supremacy states that the Pope has absolute and total and final authority in the Church, I have yet to see the Pope act on his own. He is always in consultation with the Bishops. So if the Pope would wish anything on any Eastern Church, he will speak with the Patriarch or Synod and make his request known, and leave it up to them. The Church is not a dictatorship. This is true even within the Latin Rite.