Would you support mandatory tracking devices on all new cars?

[CarolNoel]

No, nope! Just too creepy.

 

[Skadi]

I find the idea disgusting. But many folks don’t know the givernment already has the capacity to track you not only through stoplight cams but also computer chips found in certain tires which can register your location when passing through intersections.

 

[ThinkingSapien]

I find the idea disgusting. But many folks don’t know the givernment already has the capacity to track you not only through stoplight cams but also computer chips found in certain tires which can register your location when passing through intersections.

As long as people don’t know they won’t complain (side note, I didn’t think the primary roll out of embedded RFID in tires happened until next year). Now if there is some incentive or convenience associated with signing up to be tracked for something then people may voluntarily sign up for it.

I’m surprised no one has suggested tracking based on mobile device (phone, tablet, what ever). I get the impression people treat their phones as more personal devices than cars.

 

[freeRadical]

For the vast majority of people who voted ‘no,’ should we get rid of Social Security cards and driver’s licenses? They must certainly be viewed by ‘no’ people as violating their privacy. Social Security numbers serve an important function in society, but are also used to keep track of people. Anyway, I have never seen a tread or petition to have them banned.

Driving is a privilege, not a right. Driving carries along with it certain rules and regulations. I see tracking devices as a part of these criteria for driving since cars are often used in crimes.

First off, Social Security numbers were never meant to be used as they are being used now.

Second, yes, I’m fine with getting rid of Social Security number but I’m also fine with getting rid of Social Security period.

Third, I don’t see the point of driver’s licenses.

Fourth, I wasn’t aware the government could track me in real time through GPS via my Social Security number or driver’s license.

 

[jimmy]

Mandatory tracking devices could help a lot in law enforcement, but could go against one’s rights. Personally, I would strongly support such a law. We need better cooperation between the good of society and individual rights!

(LOVE, brothers and sisters!)

Yeah, maybe we should put the tracking devices in their brains, because people aren’t always with their cars. They might use someone else’s car to commit a crime. So we should have the tracking device in the person. That way they can never run.

On a side note, but related, could you imagine if the holocaust happened in current society with the rules you desire? Every last Jew would have been killed.

 

[Skadi]

As long as people don’t know they won’t complain (side note, I didn’t think the primary roll out of embedded RFID in tires happened until next year). Now if there is some incentive or convenience associated with signing up to be tracked for something then people may voluntarily sign up for it.

I’m surprised no one has suggested tracking based on mobile device ([phone, tablet, what ever). I get the impression people treat their phones as more personal devices than cars.

There are already some new tires with RFID (atleast according to the “on the run” documentary I watched) but if I’m correct next year all tires will have them.

And I agree, people can’t complain about what they don’t know. And cells are a bit more personal than cars, sense they are alwase on your person, but the government has been able to triangulate those for years, and now even more with wifi.
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[freeRadical]

Yeah, maybe we should put the tracking devices in their brains, because people aren’t always with their cars. They might use someone else’s car to commit a crime. So we should have the tracking device in the person. That way they can never run.

Yes, we should plant microchips in their hands that contain all their personal information and can be used to track them, and we should make it so they cannot buy goods without this microchip. Most law abiding citizens are just a second away from being cold blooded murderers. They are not to be trusted.

 

[Skadi]

Yes, we should plant microchips in their hands that contain all their personal information and can be used to track them, and we should make it so they cannot buy goods without this microchip. Most law abiding citizens are just a second away from being cold blooded murderers. They are not to be trusted.

Of corse, and it would not be difficult to put in microphones to head their conversations as well, just imagine all the data and information the government could get. I’m sure they would only use it to stop crime and better understand the wishes of the people, and never use it for personal gain.

 

[freeRadical]

Of corse, and it would not be difficult to put in microphones to head their conversations as well, just imagine all the data and information the government could get. I’m sure they would only use it to stop crime and better understand the wishes of the people, and never use it for personal gain.

Better yet, we should design some type of device to read people’s minds. That way if they even think about committing a crime, we can put them in jail. Of course, the government would be exempt from this.

 

[freeRadical]

Everyday I’m reminded how much the dire predictions of Aldous Huxley are slowing coming true.

 

[jimmy]

Of corse, and it would not be difficult to put in microphones to head their conversations as well, just imagine all the data and information the government could get. I’m sure they would only use it to stop crime and better understand the wishes of the people, and never use it for personal gain.

They could also put chips in to influence a persons actions too. They could be used to prevent crime, nothing bad. It could stimulate the brain in ways to cause paralysis if they are going to commit a crime, or even if they are in the midst of committing one. The endless possibilities of technology. hooray.

 

[jimmy]

Better yet, we should design some type of device to read people’s minds. That way if they even think about committing a crime, we can put them in jail. Of course, the government would be exempt from this.

See my post above. It doesn’t read minds, but it could be as good. Much more efficient than a tazer, pepper spray, or even a gun.

 

[Skadi]

They could also put chips in to influence a persons actions too. They could be used to prevent crime, nothing bad. It could stimulate the brain in ways to cause paralysis if they are going to commit a crime, or even if they are in the midst of committing one. The endless possibilities of technology. hooray.

And I mean how long until we can create and implant thoughts by the same method? We could just live out our lives in a ocean paradise while our benevolent leaders keep our bodies doing all the work! A matrix paradise!

 

[ThinkingSapien]

Yeah, maybe we should put the tracking devices in their brains, because people aren’t always with their cars. They might use someone else’s car to commit a crime.

I thought of the same thing. Apparently so did some one else. Just saw a story on the news about some one that robbed a bank and then set the get away car on fire. Sounds like they were not using their own car.

 

[jimmy]

I thought of the same thing. Apparently so did some one else. Just saw a story on the news about some one that robbed a bank and then set the get away car on fire. Sounds like they were not using their own car.

We’ve got smart criminals. The one guy looks black. With the brain chip, they could just send a paralyzing signal to every black man in the area, search them all, and the one with the cash gets arrested. Nice and clean.

 

[Robert_Sock]

First off, Social Security numbers were never meant to be used as they are being used now.

Second, yes, I’m fine with getting rid of Social Security number but I’m also fine with getting rid of Social Security period.

Third, I don’t see the point of driver’s licenses.

Fourth, I wasn’t aware the government could track me in real time through GPS via my Social Security number or driver’s license.

Again, I was in no way suggesting that SSN’s and driver licenses could track us, but that they are an invasion of privacy in that they are often used to keep track of people.

 

[freeRadical]

Again, I was in no way suggesting that SSN’s and driver licenses could track us, but that they are an invasion of privacy in that they are often used to keep track of people.

How are they used to keep track of people? The police don’t know where I am at this moment just because I have a driver’s license and SSN.

Furthermore, I said I don’t see the need for either.

 

[Lost_Sheep]

Why would they seek this information from you if are a law abiding citizen?

Would you like the FBI or the CIA or the IRS barging into your house and looking around for anything that might be illegal? Do you want them looking at your email messages to see if you might be corresponding with terrorists? Do you want the IRS looking through your personal papers to see if you cheated on your taxes?

No, I suppose you wouldn’t mind because you are a law-abiding citizen and therefore should have nothing to worry about. It’s bad enough you want to take everyone’s guns. Now you want to take away their privacy too.

Perhaps you should move to a desert island were you can build your own Utopian world where you can be the King.

 

[Robert_Sock]

How are they used to keep track of people? The police don’t know where I am at this moment just because I have a driver’s license and SSN.

Furthermore, I said I don’t see the need for either.

Our SSN’s and driver’s licenses are attached to all sorts of behavioral data, including where we are living, the amount of money in our bank accounts, what kind of car we are driving and purchasing data which are accumulated from credit cards. We also have license plate numbers on our cars, which are used to immediately identify the owner.

 

[freeRadical]

Our SSN’s and driver’s licenses are attached to all sorts of behavioral data, including where we are living, the amount of money in our bank accounts, what kind of car we are driving and purchasing data which are accumulated from credit cards.

How does the government know how much money I have in my bank account from my SSN or driver’s license? If that’s the case then why do I have to report it every time I fill out the FAFSA? Police have to have a warrant to subpoena my bank account records. You do know the US has a Fourth Amendment right?

How does the government know why kind of car I drive from my SSN and driver’s license? That information isn’t listed on my driver’s license or SSN. It’s listed on my registration.

How does the government know my purchasing data from my driver’s license or SSN? I don’t use those things to purchase stuff with. I use cash and my debit card. Again, the police would have to have a warrant to subpoena my bank records. There’s that pesky Fourth Amendment again.

The only think you got right was my place of residence. Yes, my driver’s license and SSN have that information. But so what, I don’t care that the government knows where I live. I care if they bust in my house without a warrant and start looking around.

My point was that the government can not actively track you with your SSN and driver’s license like they could with what you are proposing.

The government has no idea where I am right now, at this very moment. And that’s the way I like it. And, until we change the Constitution, that’s the way it’s going to stay.