Wow..... I can only hope this isn’t true

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Why not trust the Holy Father? Wait until the document is released before getting worked up?
 
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I place my trust in the church, and when I can clearly identify a contradiction between current practices and teachings and historical practices and teachings that’s a problem.
 
It nothing to do with disliking an individual. It has everything to do with wanting to remain consistent to the churches traditions and orthodoxy.
 
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when I can clearly identify a contradiction between current practices and teachings and historical practices and teachings that’s a problem.
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You have not answered my question. Is it your position that ordaining married men is “heterodox”?
 
Historically speaking, there have been many change along the way. Look at Vatican II.
Francis is Our Pope. He speaks for the Church.
 
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Church Militant is another source that seems to dislike Our Beloved Pope Francis.
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We aren’t commanded to like our popes. However, you’re inferring that because they disapprove of Pope Francis’ questionable statements and actions over the years that they somehow make up stories and outright lie?
 
Holy Church Fathers such as St John Chrysosthom are with Pope Francis. Also celibate, all 3 of them, St. John admonished those who admonish married priests for being married.
St. Peter was married! Priestly celibacy is an offstretch of a situation that isn’t summed up too well with the amount of priestly sexual misbehaviors. Let us admit priests have their own temptations and being married helps.
PS last year when I came back to the Church if the priest wasn’t married I wouldn’t have trusted him. Too many cases of improper behavior, only an ordained married priest could be trusted in my case. Women gossip and the wife of an abusive priest would not be quiet. So yes, it takes a woman sometimes, just not up front but in the background.
The case against married priests is what sent me away from Card Sarah and made me realize that mysticism is not always revelation.
 
The Pope leads us with love and understand. He does not command us.
Those who disapprove of the Pope may voice their opinion. But, it is just that…their opinion.
The Pope speaks for us all as Catholics. He is the gatekeeper. Hallelujah!
 
Nearly 1800 years of encouraged practice, 800 years of literal practice and now over a hundred years of canon law.
 
I expect we’ll know in a few days’ time whether it’s true or not. These forums were filled with discussions on this subject at the time of the Amazon synod last year. Anybody who took the trouble to keep up with the news was fully aware that some kind of exemptions from priestly celibacy were very much on the agenda. If that turns out to be the decision, it won’t come as a surpríse. You can approve or disapprove, but you can’t say it was unforeseen.
 
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You are free to say you don’t like it. You are free to say you don’t agree with it or think it’s imprudent. You are not free to say it is heresy. Heresy is the obstinate post baptismal denial of a divinely reveal truth.

Ordination of married men is not a doctrine.

The Eastern Churches (Catholic and Orthodox) have a 2000 continuous year practice of ordaining married men and celibates. The Western church has about 1000 years of ordaining married men and celibates, followed by about 1000 years of reserving ordination only to celibates.

However there have been exceptions along the way, and many in the last 40 years. The pope is the supreme legislator. He can make the exceptions to the current law, as John Paul II did for ordaining married men in the Latin Rite. Pope Francis can do the same. He can also change the law, seeing as how he is the supreme legislator.

You don’t have to like it, but calling him a heretic is out of bounds.
 
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YourNameHere said:
Vatican II was great. I never liked Mass said in Latin.
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Vatican II did not stop Latin in the Mass. Sacrosanctum Concilium admitted the possibility of the use of the vernacular for certain parts of the Mass. It also stated that "Particular law remaining in force, the use of the Latin language is to be preserved in the Latin rites”.
 
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