Wyoming Priest Denies Communion to Lesbian Activist Couple “Married” in Canada

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Nevertheless, Vader and her spouse probably won’t return to St. Matthew’s. She says she doesn’t want to be a distraction.
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Huskinson and Vader have gotten invitations from several other churches already. But it’s not quite the same.
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“Catholicism gets in your blood,” she said. “There are things that look the same, but aren’t the same.”
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Of course its not the same. No one else has the Real Presence. Vader even commented that “This is the one food we all need. Of all the sacraments, it’s the one that should be taken frequently.”

I wonder how it will all shake out.
 
And the activist gay couple expressed shock over this. Amazing. :rolleyes:

Now the same needs to be done to all the politicians that promote abortion rights as in Rudy Giuliani, and most of the democratic candidates that are Catholic. :eek:

Surely it is a sin for a priest to give the Eucharist to people he knows are no longer in God’s grace. :confused:
 
**Wyoming Priest Denies Communion to Lesbian Activist Couple “Married” in Canada **

The News-Record, a Gillette newspaper, reports that Rev. Cliff Jacobson, pastor of St. Mathew’s Catholic Church, informed Leah Vader and Lynne Huskinson by letter that “because of your union and your public advocacy of same-sex unions, that you are unable to receive communion.” (more)
 
And let’s also include all of the Catholics using artificial birth control. It would be hipocrital not to include them.
 
Bella3502 said:
And let’s also include all of the Catholics using artificial birth control. It would be hipocrital not to include them.
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But that’s in the internal forum. We have no way of knowing who is or is not using birth control, unless they’re publically know advocates for Planned Parenthood, etc.
 
Bella3502 said:
And let’s also include all of the Catholics using artificial birth control. It would be hipocrital not to include them.
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You are correct, but the only way it would be equivalent is if an individual were very vocal about their dissent. As the priest said…
“We’re not the bedroom police,” said Rev. Jacobson. “That ultimately comes between the person and God, but it puts it in a much different light with a public nature.”
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Interesting. I had thought canonically, such a refusal was reserved to the bishop.
 
Caveman said:
**Wyoming Priest Denies Communion to Lesbian Activist Couple “Married” in Canada **

The News-Record, a Gillette newspaper, reports that Rev. Cliff Jacobson, pastor of St. Mathew’s Catholic Church, informed Leah Vader and Lynne Huskinson by letter that “because of your union and your public advocacy of same-sex unions, that you are unable to receive communion.”
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AWESOME!!!
 
The letter shocked Vader, who described herself as having “grown up” in the Catholic Church, attended Catholic school, and received Holy Communion every week until forbidden by Rev. Jacobson’s March 1 letter.
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Amazing to me that these women were “shocked”. That speaks volumes about the lack of education in our Church.
 
otjm said:
Interesting. I had thought canonically, such a refusal was reserved to the bishop.
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I don’t know the specific canon law with regard to this, but I don’t see how it could be reserved to the bishop.

I mean, if a priest knows personally somebody who is obstinately in grave sin, is he to continue giving them communion, and thereby participate in their sacrilegious communions until the bishop can be notified and step in? This could well be a mortal sin for the priest himself, couldn’t it?

That doesn’t make sense to me. I think the priest has the authority to deny communion under certain circumstances.
 
that’s great, but all those who wish bishop’s and priests would be more forthright about denying communion to those activists, politicians etc. who espouse anti-Catholic teachings: pro-gay, pro-abort etc. take heed:
you are also asking, then, to be denied communion ourselves when we fail to live in accord with the teachings of the Church. by this logic, at every Mass the priest should announce: all those practicing ABC, cohabiting w/o marriage, divorced and remarried, hiring and exploiting illegal aliens, cheating on their taxes, etc. should remain seated and not approach communion. I only saw this once, and the priest was very courageous, it was a prominent member of an organized crime family who had boasted publicly about his crimes.
 
puzzleannie said:
you are also asking, then, to be denied communion ourselves when we fail to live in accord with the teachings of the Church. by this logic, at every Mass the priest should announce: all those practicing ABC, cohabiting w/o marriage, divorced and remarried, hiring and exploiting illegal aliens, cheating on their taxes, etc.
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Those who are of the age of reason are expected to have an informed conscious and thus such an announcement should not have to be made.

Also, the priest did not deny them communion because of what sins they may have committed because he can not read their souls and does not know if they privately repented before Mass but because of their PUBLIC actions and their lack of public actions to the contrary.
 
puzzleannie said:
that’s great, but all those who wish bishop’s and priests would be more forthright about denying communion to those activists, politicians etc. who espouse anti-Catholic teachings: pro-gay, pro-abort etc. take heed:
you are also asking, then, to be denied communion ourselves when we fail to live in accord with the teachings of the Church. by this logic, at every Mass the priest should announce: all those practicing ABC, cohabiting w/o marriage, divorced and remarried, hiring and exploiting illegal aliens, cheating on their taxes, etc. should remain seated and not approach communion. I only saw this once, and the priest was very courageous, it was a prominent member of an organized crime family who had boasted publicly about his crimes.
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Is this a little different in that they were activists who were out promoting gay marriage? I think the public nature of their transgressions and the nature of the sin is such that it could be considered different. This is also different than the priest saying certain people shouldn’t present themselves for communion versus the priest denying individuals the ability to receive communion. In your example, the priest probably should say to the congregation that those who persist in serious sin of grave matters should not present themselves for communion. This is also different than saying you have to be perfect to receive the Eucharist (which I don’t think anyone is saying).
 
“This is the one food we all need,” Vader told the News-Record. “Of all the sacraments, it’s the one that should be taken frequently.”
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Obviously she had not heard of the Sacrament of Confession either.
 
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