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semper_catholicus said:
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BlueMaxx:
Just breathe & stretch and ignore all the “mumbo jumbo”…once you let go of all the mysticism and cult of personality associated with yoga it is really just controlled breathing and stretching.
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Yogis in India say that the exercises cannot be separated from the religion, and it bothers them that westerners think that they can separate it.
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Ah…I knew someone would post something akin to this…

Sure you can “separate it” by not pursuing the “religious” or new age side of yoga…you learn to stretch in different position and forget any of the mystique and “yogi’ness” attached to it…in fact if nobody mentions what the pose is suppose to mean in India nobody is going to know the difference…it still looks like a dog taking a leak on a fire hydrant…

How superstitious and quasi ignorant to think that contorting oneself to stretch the muscles is like a witch holding her leg up during incantations…

That kind of thinking borders on superstition.

Meditation is spoken of often in the Bible…it is not a sin…it is what you do with your meditation time that can lead to sin…

Personally, I pray a lot when I exercise…a good time to say a decade or so of the Rosary…

Our local Y is a Christian organization that offers yoga for health benefits…nothing is being taught as to what a yoga positions means in reference to an Indian god…if someone wants to go deep into yoga and all it’s meaning they certainly can.
If your someone like me who has a terrible back injury and is Catholic and merely wants to stretch and learn to control your breathing then more power to ya.

Honestly, humans can over complicate a BLT sandwich…
 
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BlueMaxx said:
Our local Y is a Christian organization
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My mom took a lot of flack from the busybody church ladies in our parish because she sent us to the Y for swimming lessons and summer camp. They were apparently as bad as the Freemasons. Fortunately, my mom had no trouble telling them how much she “appreciated” their (name removed by moderator)ut.
 
Ha! Good for her!

I have never heard anyone discuss anything religious there…they do have scripture along the walls at the walking track…most folks are pretty focused on their exercise…

I started going a lot more after a surprise heat attack not too long ago…it is a safe quiet place to me…

The steam room alone is worth the price of admission, loosens up my back so well…After exercise I feel so much better after a good 10 minutes in the steam room, then a soak in the whirlpool then a final 5 minutes or so of a steam…I have always liked our local Y…
 
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BlueMaxx said:
I have never heard anyone discuss anything religious there
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Nor did I. And the director was a Presbyterian minister. Had a kid my age with Down’s, who was always about. Sterling example of a Christian leader and father. He didn’t need to preach. He lead by example.
 
LumineDiei said:
We need to realize that once we start moving in the womb, it can be a yoga pose, since any position or movement the human does is used in yoga.
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Fetuses aren’t baptized yet, so they are free to do Pagan things! 🤣
 
All physical postures or movements obviously predate Hinduism or any belief system. They are thus independent of any religion. The religion, however, may make association with movements. But you see the movements are independent while the religion is not. There is no association without a belief system. So if you associate a movement or stretch with something Hindu, you are using their beliefs. You are buying into their world view a bit.
 
Pup7 said:
Why do you think Fundamentalist churches don’t (and at least where I’m from, never did) have “Halloween” parties? I’m 44 and that’s not a new PC innovation. It’s because they freak out about its original origins.
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I think they freak out more about the Catholic origins and what Catholic do in places like Mexico. When I hear fundamentalists talk about how Halloween is demonic, they often use Mexico as an example.

At least the ones I’m familiar with.
 
phil19034 said:
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Pup7:
Why do you think Fundamentalist churches don’t (and at least where I’m from, never did) have “Halloween” parties? I’m 44 and that’s not a new PC innovation. It’s because they freak out about its original origins.
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I think they freak out more about the Catholic origins and what Catholic do in places like Mexico. When I hear fundamentalists talk about how Halloween is demonic, they often use Mexico as an example.

At least the ones I’m familiar with.
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I can honestly tell you I’ve never heard a Baptist - any Protestant, really - talk about Catholic origins of Halloween.

It’s all about the pagans.

In Philly it might be different. But I’ve lived all over the US, and never heard that once.
 
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BlueMaxx said:
Our local Y is a Christian organization that offers yoga for health benefits…nothing is being taught as to what a yoga positions means in reference to an Indian god…if someone wants to go deep into yoga and all it’s meaning they certainly can.
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While the YMCA is originally a Christian organization and while many Churches often support their local Y’s, the majority of YMCAa are nominally Christian at best.

But they are surely not Catholic. Many protestant ministers do not have an issue with Yoga (just like many protestant ministers are pro-choice)
 
Pup7 said:
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phil19034:
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Pup7:
Why do you think Fundamentalist churches don’t (and at least where I’m from, never did) have “Halloween” parties? I’m 44 and that’s not a new PC innovation. It’s because they freak out about its original origins.
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I think they freak out more about the Catholic origins and what Catholic do in places like Mexico. When I hear fundamentalists talk about how Halloween is demonic, they often use Mexico as an example.

At least the ones I’m familiar with.
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I can honestly tell you I’ve never heard a Baptist - any Protestant, really - talk about Catholic origins of Halloween.

It’s all about the pagans.

In Philly it might be different. But I’ve lived all over the US, and never heard that once.
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Well… after all, most of them do think Catholics are pagans! 🙂

But yeah, while I have heard them talk about the Celtic pagans, most of the grief I hear about is what “heathen Catholics do down in Latin America, esp in Mexico” for the Day of the Dead.

https://www.penn.museum/calendar/eventdetail/712/day-of-the-dead


But we do have a Mexican Consulate here that sponsors Day of the Dead celebrations, so we see it perhaps more than some other places.
 
phil19034 said:
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BlueMaxx:
Our local Y is a Christian organization that offers yoga for health benefits…nothing is being taught as to what a yoga positions means in reference to an Indian god…if someone wants to go deep into yoga and all it’s meaning they certainly can.
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While the YMCA is originally a Christian organization and while many Churches often support their local Y’s, the majority of YMCAa are nominally Christian at best.

But they are surely not Catholic. Many protestant ministers do not have an issue with Yoga (just like many protestant ministers are pro-choice)
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Well I go there to exercise in a “nominally” Christian environment, not for proselytizing nor to listen to a sermon…I will take a nominally Christian gym over some of the local “other” offerings…there is a lot of modesty at our Y…

Also on our local home page…

OUR MISSION

The YMCA of Southwestern Indiana, Inc., following the example of Jesus Christ, responds to community needs by serving all people, especially youth, through relationships and activities that promote healthy spirit, mind, and body.

Soooo…good enough for me for the hour plus I am there…
 
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Pup7 said:
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semper_catholicus:
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Pup7:
Look up the origins of 25 December and when Christ was probably actually born.
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There is actually scriptural evidence to suggest the Christ was in fact born on December 25th. Protestants use the “Catholics celebrate the birth of Christ on December 25th because of pagans” argument all the time.
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I’m Catholic, my friend. A Catholic who reads a lot.
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Well… there is some evidence that Jesus was actually born in late December that Dr. Taylor Marshall discusses almost every year.

http://taylormarshall.com/?s=when+was+jesus+born&submit=Search (this is a link to a number of posts, videos, etc regarding this from Dr. Marshall)

http://1ywpi925eu8i25ne6noy0131.wpe...tent/uploads/2014/12/Gods-Birthday-Dec-18.pdf

His theories have the attention of a number of Catholic Scripted Scholars, include Dr. Edward Sri.

God bless
 
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BlueMaxx said:
Well I go there to exercise in a “nominally” Christian environment, not for proselytizing nor to listen to a sermon…I will take a nominally Christian gym over some of the local “other” offerings…there is a lot of modesty at our Y…

Also on our local home page…

OUR MISSION

The YMCA of Southwestern Indiana, Inc., following the example of Jesus Christ, responds to community needs by serving all people, especially youth, through relationships and activities that promote healthy spirit, mind, and body.

Soooo…good enough for me for the hour plus I am there…
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don’t get me wrong… I agree with you. I’m a member of the Y too.
 
Cool Phil!

I agree with you also, it is not Catholic specific…I know when I am on the recumbent stationary I find myself sometimes unconsciously mouthing the Rosary when I am really working hard and concentrating …recently an Asian fellow next to me looked over with a comical quizzical look on his face…He must have thought I was insane…or Pentecostal…

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