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pete_29
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I’m sorry to go off topic, but one line caught my eye. drawl your own conclusions, Are you from the good ol" south?
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RobHom
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Page 4 of the playbook: When losing ground at a rapid pace, bail and log out.
Good night and may God lead you back to the Church!
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NonCatholic
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1 Timothy 3:15 but in case I am delayed, {I write} so that you will know how one ought to conduct himself in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and support of the truth.
Religion says "none- Personal relationship with Jesus Christ
It was intentional not to mention the denomination of the church I attend because in this day it has become meaningless except in a few circumstance (i.e Islam). The important aspect of a church you attend should be the “preaching and teaching” of the Word in an honorable fashion, accurately dividing the Word of God and equipping people to do the same.
Not only that, I am a Christian, which is a person, not a religion. I hope this gives some clarification to you and any eles that may have wondered about that.
Thanks and God bless you with joy and peace!
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pete_29
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Goodnight and God Bless.
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pete_29
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Ask yourself was this line necessary.
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Bill_Pick
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HI ,IN READING YOUR POST YOU USE 1TIM3=15 CAN YOU PLEASE TELL WHAT CHURCH WAS AROUND AT THAT TIME
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Rleng616
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The Rosary is meditating on the life of Christ- no different than repeating the Our Father.
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NonCatholic
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Any system or institution which one engages with in order to foster a sense of meaning or relevance in relation to something greater than oneself.
I can’t tell you what to do; it’s your religion, but I can say that the Mary of the Bible does not resemble the Mary of the Catholic church based on what the Bible tells us, which isn’t much.
Have a personal relationship with Christ and avoid institutions that have revelation outside of Scripture.
Yes, I go to a church building filled with true believers and probably some phonies.
On the Apostles Creed, I agree with the non-Catholic version.
Jesus, Paul, Moses, Peter, Mark, Luke, John - Biblical writers, Holy Spirit, John MacArthur, Gerode Whitfiled, Charles Spurgeon, John Bunyan…a few more.
The Holy Spirit who guides to the truth of the tings of God is primary.
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nbtb1348
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There were a bunch of churches around then. For starters, the churches in Corinth, Rome, Philippi, Collosae, Ephesus, and the churches in Galatia. Paul helped found a bunch. What’s your point?
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nbtb1348
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There are enough phenomenal commentaries, great non-Catholic seminaries, teaching pastors, etc to confirm that the Church is dynamically alive and well outside of Rome, busy seeing people come to faith in…Rome?..no…the Lord Jesus Christ and the FINISHED work of the cross. I think if you look to see what churches most closely resemble what was happening in Acts, with people being converted to CHRIST upon the preaching of the cross, you’ll find a lot more outside the RCC. Wonder why…
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RobHom
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Basically, it is one man’s opinion against the opinions of others. Ask yourself this question: If Latin was the Mother Tongue of Roman’s, and Hebrew or Araimic was the Mother Tongue of the Jews, and they were writing documents, and considering that the Apostles were not necessarily “Highly Educated” men… why would they be compelled to record anything in Greek?
This site disputes yours: v-a.com/bible/
And the content of this page casts much doubt on whether or not it was “originally” written in “Greek”: newadvent.org/cathen/10057a.htm
*General character of the Gospel
Distinct unity of plan, an artificial arrangement of subject-matter, and a simple, easy style–much purer than that of Mark–suggest an original rather than a translation. When the First Gospel is compared with books translated from the Hebrew, such as those of the Septuagint, a marked difference is at once apparent. The original Hebrew shines through every line of the latter, whereas, in the First Gospel Hebraisms are comparatively rare, and are merely such as might be looked for in a book written by a Jew and reproducing Jewish teaching.** However, these observations are not conclusive in favour of a Greek original. In the first place, the unity of style that prevails throughout the book, would rather prove that we have a translation. It is certain that a good portion of the matter existed first in Aramaic–at all events, the sayings of Christ, and thus almost three-quarters of the Gospel.** Consequently, these at least the Greek writer has translated. And, since no difference in language and style can be detected between the sayings of Christ and the narratives that are claimed to have been composed in Greek, it would seem that these latter are also translated from the Aramaic. This conclusion is based on the fact that they are of the same origin as the discourses. Theunity of plan and the artificial arrangement of subject-matter could as well have been made in Matthew’s Aramaic as in the Greek document; the fine Greek construction, the lapidary style, the elegance and good order claimed as characteristic of the Gospel, are largely a matter of opinion, the proof being that critics do not agree on this question. Although the phraseology is not more Hebraic than in the other Gospels, still it not much less so. To sum up, from the literary examination of the Greek Gospel no certain conclusion can be drawn against the existence of a Hebrew Gospel of which our First Gospel would be a translation; and inversely, this examination does not prove the Greek Gospel to be a translation of an Aramaic original.*
I guess my point is this: Just because a bunch of people say it is so, doesn’t necessarily mean its so… From what I have read, I find it difficult to believe that native speakers of one language would automatically write in a second or third language… unless of course they were entirely at home in that language and capable of idiomatic expression.
One was a physician, one a tax collector, and the rest were a variety of occupations…none were linguistic scholars, or highly educated…thus, there is much room for argument as to the “original” language of the scriptures, unless you are talking about the “original translations”…but then there were original translations into many languages.
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pete_29
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There are enough phenomenal commentaries, great non-Catholic seminaries, teaching pastors, etc to confirm that the Church is dynamically alive and well outside of Rome, busy seeing people come to faith in…Rome?..no…the Lord Jesus Christ and the FINISHED work of the cross. I think if you look to see what churches most closely resemble what was happening in Acts, with people being converted to CHRIST upon the preaching of the cross, you’ll find a lot more outside the RCC. Wonder why…
It’s the 21st century?
I wonder why there isn’t just one protestant denomination. Too many different interpretations of the Bible for me to take any of them seriously.
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CHESTERTONRULES
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What we have in Acts, among other things, is the clearly laid out example of Church hierarchy.
The Christians at Antioch, when confounded with a controversy regarding gentile circumcision, didn’t split into two new denominations.
They consulted the leaders of the Church then followed their teaching.
Catholic=EVERYWHERE THE SAME=THAT THEY MAY BE ONE=ONE FLOCK, ONE SHEPHERD
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Hisalone
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Dont forget the eunoch who founded the Ethiopian Church how about Thomas in India starting churches.
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nbtb1348
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It’s the 21st century?
I wonder why there isn’t just one protestant denomination. Too many different interpretations of the Bible for me to take any of them seriously.That’s a cop-out. Most of those interpretations are very similar to RCC, except on some critical issues. When you stand before God one day you won’t be able to hide behind the RCC. You will be accountable for what you interpreted and believed. I urge you to make sure you know what Jesus and Paul meant when they said…“You must be born again”…“For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast.”…"God, who has saved us and called us to a holy life—not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time."
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nbtb1348
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Friend, do you even know what a saint is?
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CHESTERTONRULES
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Jesus also said:
Now remain in my love. 10If you obey my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have obeyed my Father’s commands and remain in his love.
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19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in[a] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
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Luke 10
16"He who listens to you listens to me; he who rejects you rejects me; but he who rejects me rejects him who sent me."
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Rleng616
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Just my opinion - It seems that those who are most against the traditions of our Church have no traditions of their own. It seems they have no choice except “picking” at our tradition rich Church.
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pete_29
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That’s a cop-out. Most of those interpretations are very similar to RCC, except on some critical issues. When you stand before God one day you won’t be able to hide behind the RCC. You will be accountable for what you interpreted and believed. I urge you to make sure you know what Jesus and Paul meant when they said…“You must be born again”…“For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast.”…"God, who has saved us and called us to a holy life—not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time."It’s the 21st century?
When I stand before God it will be with the humility of knowing that I am nothing and He is everything, not with the arrogance that I know his word better than everyone else.
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pete_29
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A New Orleans football player. Look I’m not trying to destroy your faith and I’m not going to let you question mine. We don’t know each other and we don’t know what’s in each others heart. All I know is that everything I’ve read in the Bible ( yes, Catholics do read the Bible) by my understanding, tells me that the Catholic Church is the Church Christ built. I have no reason to doubt that. I’m sure you have no doubts in your Faith. Hopefully the path to Heaven won’t be too rocky for either of us.
It’s late, and I’m tired, so good night and God Bless You.
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