You don't risk going to Hell if you were never born

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Why risk upon your child’s destiny, playing dice with his soul, risking your child going to Hell wouldn’t been there if he was never born.
 
Murder isn’t good. It’s a great evil, contrary to our nature, and the child has a right to live her life withput it being cut short.
 
ANV said:
Me?

By having a child, you put them at the risk of going to Hell, such a child would not be there if the child was never born.
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Why would you deny them a place in heaven?
 
ANV said:
Why risk upon your child’s destiny, playing dice with his soul, risking your child going to Hell wouldn’t been there if he was never born.
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A person’s eternal destiny is not determined by chance, but by God’s election and their free choice. It is not for us to decide that free will is too risky. God invented it, therefore it is good.
 
ANV said:
Me?

By having a child, you put them at the risk of going to Hell, such a child would not be there if the child was never born.
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Why would you assume your child will go to Hell? My child is much better than me. I am sure he will go to heaven. It was definitely worth the risk to bring him into the world. The world is much better for him.
 
Thank you, mommy, for not murdering me in the womb. I’ll take my chances with this life business.
 
ANV said:
Why risk upon your child’s destiny, playing dice with his soul, risking your child going to Hell wouldn’t been there if he was never born.
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ANV, my man, you need to lighten up. Get a cold six pack, watch a great funny movie (my suggestion, Animal House) and chill baby. You are taking things way too seriously.

As to your question, all human life is made in the image and likeness of the God you don’t believe in so you may have a problem with that. But our Catholic belief is that "eye has not seen… the wonders that await all those who follow Him (or some such thing- I’m lousy at verbatim)

In our belief, small children once baptized, probably don’t have the ability to commit so great a wrong that God would exclude them from His presence. Once man reaches an age at which he or she understands the necessity to choose good over evil, life is theirs to live. That’s the great and wonderful adventure, if you choose to live life in that manner.

It seems to me you would prefer all of us to return to the state of mere animals reliant only on instinct and not responsible in any moral sense for our actions???
 
Never born means never to have existed. You don’t go to heaven either. There isn’t a pool of unborn babies sitting in a sitting room in heaven waiting to be called up and born!

This is about the darkest post I’ve ever seen! Like JoeyB says, sit back and enjoy what Is here!
 
Crusaderbear said:
Never born means never to have existed. You don’t go to heaven either. There isn’t a pool of unborn babies sitting in a sitting room in heaven waiting to be called up and born!

This is about the darkest post I’ve ever seen! Like JoeyB says, sit back and enjoy what Is here!
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People exist as soon as they are conceived.
 
It isn’t my decision to make. God makes each person for a reason. It’s our job to love one another in this world. We trust in God’s mercy and love for us. He wouldn’t have made is if He didn’t want us to exist.
 
OP, couldn’t you say the exact same thing of atheists?

Why have children? Sure, they might live a happy life, but they also might grow up to be drug addicts, criminals, or clinically depressed. They might live the rest of their lives homeless, in prison, on death row.

Isn’t it wrong, then, for an atheist to have children, too, to risk that their child will be miserable for the rest of their lives?

But the atheist will probably answer something like, “Well, sure, they might end up a drug addict or a criminal, but that will be their choice. I’ll raise them right, give them every opportunity to live a good life, a life of happiness. If they choose to do the wrong thing and ruin their life, that’s on them, not me. They could have been happy, and they chose not to be.”

Why is it any different for a Christian?
 
I think the OP likes to mess with us. He asks something like this daily.
It’s clickbait.

Note: You 'll never have to change a litter box if you don’t bring a cat home.
You’ve been forewarned.
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pianistclare said:
I think the OP likes to mess with us. He asks something like this daily.
It’s clickbait.

Note: You 'll never have to change a litter box if you don’t bring a cat home.
You’ve been forewarned.
:coffeeread:
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I was thinking the same thing, pianistclare…ANV asks a question that gets all the believers stirred up with long explanations and he is having a good laugh at our expense.
I’m sure he really isn’t trying to find the truth about the existence of God! :rolleyes:
 
pianistclare said:
I think the OP likes to mess with us. He asks something like this daily.
It’s clickbait.

Note: You 'll never have to change a litter box if you don’t bring a cat home.
You’ve been forewarned.
:coffeeread:
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🙂 so true. Those cats are so hard to resist!
 
ANV said:
Why risk upon your child’s destiny, playing dice with his soul, risking your child going to Hell wouldn’t been there if he was never born.
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There is no risk of Hell for those never conceived and there is also no possibility of Heaven.
 
joeybaggz said:
ANV, my man, you need to light**en up. Get a cold six pack, watch a great funny movie (my suggestion, **Animal House) and chill baby. You are taking things way too seriously.

As to your question, all human life is made in the image and likeness of the God you don’t believe in so you may have a problem with that. But our Catholic belief is that "eye has not seen… the wonders that await all those who follow Him (or some such thing- I’m lousy at verbatim)

In our belief, small children once baptized, probably don’t have the ability to commit so great a wrong that God would exclude them from His presence. Once man reaches an age at which he or she understands the necessity to choose good over evil, life is theirs to live. That’s the great and wonderful adventure, if you choose to live life in that manner.

It seems to me you would prefer all of us to return to the state of mere animals reliant only on instinct and not responsible in any moral sense for our actions???
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Don’t see “Animal House”, though.
 
ANV said:
Why risk upon your child’s destiny, playing dice with his soul, risking your child going to Hell wouldn’t been there if he was never born.
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It’s a risk couples who are believers, with children, decide to take.
 
ANV said:
Why risk upon your child’s destiny, playing dice with his soul, risking your child going to Hell wouldn’t been there if he was never born.
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  1. You can’t go to Heaven if you never existed.
  2. Would you kill a two-year-old so they can’t grow up to sin and go to Hell?
  3. How do you know which children will go to Hell? What if the child you aborted would have saved thousands of others from Hell and been rewarded with a very high place in Heaven?
  4. God does not play dice with us. Our ultimate destination is determined by our own choices, not by chance.
 
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