Respectful, inspirational and lovingWhat are three things you hope for in your future mate and are those the same things you are working on in yourself?
I figured there has to be more people looking here for this title in a post
Change the topic if you want!
Upon reading this, I thought you meant the complete opposite of what the verse says.
Very well said!
Good catch. There can be some serious drama if attitudes differ in that regard.
She can be going at a different time and place and you didnāt mention whether it was Sunday or not in the first place.
Why does it?
Thank you for clarifying my friend.
If youāre spouse does not wish to attend mass with you (specifically), then we have an unexpected problem (probably due to some other underlying issue within the relationship).
I personally didnāt think ārkwittemā had to be so exhaustive in his explanation for people to realize what he was talking about lol.
Iām a little surprised there hasnāt been more pushback for my āsex is overratedā rant, but it gives me some hope for the rest of society, knowing that others share similar sentiments. (Not calling out your post my any means.)
In this case, I am referring to someone who is too lazy to go even on a Sunday. I recently invited a girl who is not practicing to mass on Ash Wednesday. I gave her a boatload of times, ranging from 6:45 AM to 7:30 in the evening. She said she had a tattoo appointment at 3 and āneeded to sleep.ā (She works the graveyard shift.) Anyway, given that there were masses sprinkled throughout the day and itās only an hour of commitment I was left thoroughly unimpressed. Thatās an example of a pretty sorry excuse, IMO. I know Ash Wednesday is not a Holy Day, but seriously? Thatās pretty pathetic, if you ask me.
People who are not intelligent are not nearly as interesting. Plus, it is a longer-lasting commodity than looks, so I prefer investing my time in people who are thoughtful, curious, open-minded, and well-read over people who are (for lack of a better term), simpletons. Itās personal preference for me.
We need to avoid confusing attendance itself with fulfilling your request to attend with you in a place and at a time of your choosing. What your spouse owes to God and the Church must always be separated rather firmly from your own personal disappointed hopes, hurt ego (or even legitimate hurt feelings) etc.
We werenāt talking about a separate day and we werenāt necessarily talking about a day of obligation either.
That is not clear actually.
Well, I do have a couple of related sentiments of my own, though they are different. Iām certainly saddened by the focus on sexual technique and performance, as well as the most physiological side of sexuality.
All right, so weekdays are out of the picture.
Iād have similar feelings, I guess. Then again, you picked a non-practicing girl. You arenāt being deceived as to the meaning of religion in her lifeāunless you deceive yourself by ignoring what youāre being shown and told.
Perhaps but still not a day of obligation.
I see. I asked why it went without saying.
I wanted to challenge the presumption that high intelligence is necessary to be a good, nice, interesting or otherwise worth hanging out with. For the record, plenty of people with somewhat high IQs refuse to think and as a result they talk nonsense. Look for example at journalists making idiotic comments about the Church or misinterpreting statements. E.g. you criticise in vitro as an immoral method of conception, they say you divide children into better and worse. And thatās people with Masterās degrees, whoād probably land a 120-130 result in an IQ test. Iād rather marry someone who has less bra(name removed by moderator)ower but cares to use it.Sex is the core purpose in a marriage and a marriage without sex is an invalid one. It is not āboringā. The sexual union of man and woman is one of Godās greatest gift. It should be the ulitmate expression of self-less love, through which one can attain a genuine ecstasy. The Catholic Church speak very highly of sex, I think you will find.
Which is what makes pre/extra-marital sex so problematic. I think having less or no sex in marriage is an acceptable accommodation in order to ensure having no sex before or outside of marriage. It seems that it is the greatest gift until people abuse it, then it necessarily becomes ācommonā and boring, and other things are held up as being greater, or more special, or as a more perfect expression of love. So I think rkwittem is completely correct. The emphasis on sex in our culture has collided violently with its sole purpose in marriage and has destabilized marriage. Thereās no requirement that a person must have sex in marriage, and if two people arenāt interested in it, they shouldnāt be pushed to be interested in it. Infidelity occurs in people who focus on it too much, not too little.
Thatās not actually true: marriage without sex can be valid. Itās called a Josephite marriage (in other words is like the marriage between Mary and Joseph). But yes, theology of the body does speak highly of the sexual union.
Why talk about how sex is emphasised in our culture? It is portrayed as something dirty and sinister rather than a beautiful procreative action. If people appreciated sex for the truly significant act it is there would be far less promiscuity.
Sorry but this is not the case. In the Catholic Church a marriage is not valid until consummated. Remember, Mary and Joseph were married under Jewish law, which was different.
I donāt think people feel the need to appreciate it as a significant act if non-appreciation is not recognized and objected to.
If both spouses are not hypersexualized individuals, as society tends to drive people to be, then infidelity will almost certainly not occur. You have two factors: interest and impulsivity. Having both very low (in both spouses) nearly guarantees a marriage free of infidelity. Having both high/very high will increase the odds a great deal for infidelity. Promiscuity as well occurs due to high levels of both. So, as a society we need to lower interest/drive and structure our lives in a less impulsive way.
The primary purpose of marriage is the procreation of children, not having some arbitrarily high level of sexual interaction with oneās spouse. If I met a Catholic women who had a low sex drive (by societies absurd standards), it wouldnāt bother me. Marriage isnāt supposed to be a carnal playground.
Oops, missed this part. :whacky:
disagree to agree chevyThat is not clear actually.
Iām having nam-esque flashbacks to a debate me and chevalier had on eros and agape a lil while back lol good times
The first part is a little skewed, sex drive has little to do with infidelity although one would think that. Some with little to no sex drive still has the same likelihood of cheating on their spouse as someone with a high sex drive just as someone with a high sex drive has the same likelihood of being faithful as someone with a low sex drive.
Nonsense. Sex is the cherry on top of the sundae. I donāt buy a banana split at Dairy Queen so I can get the maraschino cherry on top. I get it for everything else- the ice cream, bananas, and the feeling of satisfaction it gives me. If we extend this analogy to marriage, sex is the cherry on top and the actual relationship and kids and other, fundamental components of marriage are the āmeatā of the marriage (the ice cream, bananas, etc.). A marriage can exist without sex. But it cannot exist without respect, trust and a host of other elements that are required for a stable, healthy, and holy marriage. Sex is only truly needed for child-rearing.