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LightFromLight said:
agapewolf;10428330:
But thats not what you said…QUOTE]

Yes, a couple cannot marry if they are not open to children, a catholic priest will not marry a couple who are not open to new life. You just said that. I have said that, you have said that. What is the issue?

I don’t understand what exactly you are pursuing me on.
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No, that’s not what you were saying. You said a marriage isn’t valid until consummated. THAT is the issue that is completely incorrect.
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agapewolf said:
LightFromLight;10428340:
No, that’s not what you were saying. You said a marriage isn’t valid until consummated. THAT is the issue that is completely incorrect.
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There were many challenges about “celibate marriges”, that was what I was concerned about. It appears as a threat to the purpose of marriage as presented by the Church.
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A marriage not yet consummated is an already made and valid and sacramental marriage. It can, however, still be dispensed by the Pope. This is a convuluted situation resulting from much deeper historical formations and formulations than just the one or two sentences canon law can spare in the definition of currently binding rules. A theologian would be needed to explain this stuff, not just a lawyer, I guess. But if somebody did actually refer to unconsummated marriages as not yet valid, that was some wrong terminology. On the other hand, it can’t be denied they lack some “final finality”.
 
chevalier said:
A marriage not yet consummated is an already made and valid and sacramental marriage. It can, however, still be dispensed by the Pope. This is a convuluted situation resulting from much deeper historical formations and formulations than just the one or two sentences canon law can spare in the definition of currently binding rules. A theologian would be needed to explain this stuff, not just a lawyer, I guess. But if somebody did actually refer to unconsummated marriages as not yet valid, that was some wrong terminology. On the other hand, it can’t be denied they lack some “final finality”.
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Is an annulment not mean the marriage was never valid in the first place though?

Anyway I wasn’t concern with this, I was concerned about people devaluing the marital act in the first place.
 
Well, marriage is when a man & a woman mentally and physically unite as one, which is followed by erotic love, or the desire two people have for union of their bodies and souls, hearts and minds. Sant Paul mentioned about creation account in Genesis, and described what marriage means in Christian perspective. “For this reason, a man will leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife and the two will become one flesh.” (Ephesians 5:31)
One of the main purposes of marriage is the creation of new life, so a wife and a husband participate in creation with God, the source of all life:)
However, it doesn’t mean marriage is invalid just because it isn’t consummated. 🙂
Think about holy family. Virgin Mary never had a relationship with Joseph, yet their marriage was holy, sacred, and complete.
Whether it is followed by consummation or not, marriage is always valid. 😊
 
LightFromLight said:
agapewolf;10428330:
But thats not what you said…QUOTE]

Yes, a couple cannot marry if they are not open to children, a catholic priest will not marry a couple who are not open to new life. You just said that. I have said that, you have said that. What is the issue?

I don’t understand what exactly you are pursuing me on.
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Well, marriage is when a man & a woman mentally and physically unite as one, which is followed by erotic love, or the desire two people have for union of their bodies and souls, hearts and minds. Sant Paul mentioned about creation account in Genesis, and described what marriage means in Christian perspective. “For this reason, a man will leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife and the two will become one flesh.” (Ephesians 5:31)
One of the main purposes of marriage is the creation of new life, so a wife and a husband participate in creation with God, the source of all life:)
However, it doesn’t mean marriage is invalid just because it isn’t consummated. 🙂
Think about holy family. Virgin Mary never had a relationship with Joseph, yet their marriage was holy, sacred, and complete.
Whether it is followed by consummation or not, marriage is always valid. 😊
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Several times people have messed up their quote boxes and making it appear as if I said something that someo e else actually said . Please be careful
 
agapewolf said:
Several times people have messed up their quote boxes and making it appear as if I said something that someo e else actually said . Please be careful
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Oh oh haha. Sorry! But yes, I knew it wasn’t you 😃
 
Three things I’d like in a future spouse are that he would be a strong Catholic, truthful, and hard-working. I’m working on all of these traits in myself.
 
Wonderette said:
Three things I’d like in a future spouse are that he would be a strong Catholic, truthful, and hard-working. I’m working on all of these traits in myself.
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Sometimes working on those things within ourselves is what draws a partner to us. God knows better than we do when we are truly ready to commit out lives to another person.
 
Three characteristics my future spouse must have are:
  1. A practicing Catholic (faithful to all the Church’s teachings, especially those regarding NFP and contraception)
  2. In a career that would not only support us as a married couple, but also our future children in a way that would allow me o stay home and school them.
  3. Someone who I can not only talk about difficult subjects with, but who can help me learn and appreciate things. His measured level of intelligence does not have to be extremely high, but his ability to work out a situation and his “Street Smarts” are a must.
Hope all of you are having a blessed Lent,
God bless,

Chloe M.
 
LaMusicaSenior said:
Three characteristics my future spouse must have are:
  1. A practicing Catholic (faithful to all the Church’s teachings, especially those regarding NFP and contraception)
  2. In a career that would not only support us as a married couple, but also our future children in a way that would allow me o stay home and school them.
  3. Someone who I can not only talk about difficult subjects with, but who can help me learn and appreciate things. His measured level of intelligence does not have to be extremely high, but his ability to work out a situation and his “Street Smarts” are a must.
Hope all of you are having a blessed Lent,
God bless,

Chloe M.
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Hi there!

Gosh, your post is like you read my mind. 😛 I feel exactly the same way! :D. The homeschooling idea I am a bit flexible on. But I would want to support my future wife in such a way that she would not have to work. And yes, street smarts are a must!

God bless you as well, and have a blessed Lent.

Mat
 
lovelorn322 said:
Hi there!

Gosh, your post is like you read my mind. 😛 I feel exactly the same way! :D. The homeschooling idea I am a bit flexible on. But I would want to support my future wife in such a way that she would not have to work. And yes, street smarts are a must!

God bless you as well, and have a blessed Lent.

Mat
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Hello!

The homeschooling stems from my K-12 homeschool education and seeing it’s benefits in my family and those around me. And street smarts stems from the fact that I am not necessarily the smartest street person 😛

Hope your Lent finishes well - God bless,

Chloe M.
 
oldfashcathgirl said:
What are three things you hope for in your future mate and are those the same things you are working on in yourself? 🙂

I figured there has to be more people looking here for this title in a post 🙂
Change the topic if you want!
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For me the thing above all in importance is a guy who is a practising Catholic and I hope he will have abided by the Church’s teaching on chastity
 
LaMusicaSenior said:
Hello!

The homeschooling stems from my K-12 homeschool education and seeing it’s benefits in my family and those around me. And street smarts stems from the fact that I am not necessarily the smartest street person 😛

Hope your Lent finishes well - God bless,

Chloe M.
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Hmm. Sounds cool! I couldn’t imagine being homeschooled. Did you ever get lonely? 😊. I’m not the most outgoing, social guy, however and I suppose that wouldn’t bother me in the least! And I have street smarts… I’m just outrageously clumsy. haha 😃

Mat
 
lovelorn322 said:
Hmm. Sounds cool! I couldn’t imagine being homeschooled. Did you ever get lonely? 😊. I’m not the most outgoing, social guy, however and I suppose that wouldn’t bother me in the least! And I have street smarts… I’m just outrageously clumsy. haha 😃

Mat
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Mat,
I can’t really get lonely being the oldest of 8 siblings…there is always someone to talk to. 🙂 Plus we belong to a local homeschooling group that we see quite a bit during the month.
Chloe M.
 
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