I think this argument possibly overlooks or obscures the difference between temptation and consent to temptation. It is not a sin to have a tempting idea float across your brain. But, if you notice the idea, like the idea, realize you ought to stop thinking of the idea, and voluntarily continue thinking the idea anyway, then you are in trouble with sin. This is a typical course of action that might take place in a sin of thought.
It seem that you are not allowed to enjoy sex either, or look foward to having sex.
It is hard to come up with historical facts on something that historically has never been acceptable or sanction. That is “gay” marriage. I think Jailbelle may not have clearly stated what was intended to be said or …
In the point you are trying to make here you have shown that you do not understand unity. Infertile heterosexual sex is not lust because it still has unity.
Or still a valid thing to consider, given the HIV, Hepatitis, Syphallis, drug addiction, and alcoholism that goes hand in hand with a lot of gay culture.
Actually, HIV rates in the U.S. have been stable for more than a decade, with approximately 40,000 new cases annually. This is down from 150,000 new cases/year back in the 1980s.
Talk about your straw man.It is hard to come up with historical facts on something that historically has never been acceptable or sanction. That is “gay” marriage. I think Jailbelle may not have clearly stated what was intended to be said or …
and I need to to read the whole string of post before I jump in
Anyways as to the widespread acceptance of homosexuality as noted in the cultures mention, a lack of morality usually comes with the lack of an ability to make wise choices in all affairs.
The figures I am thinking of have appeared in local print media about our city relative to national averages. I will do my best to find online reference to them if they were in the online editions of those papers.
The study validated heterosexual risk in 82% of the cases.
This article was published in 1985. The distribution of HIV has changed since then.
What do you mean by mortal sin? That would be a sin, but I guess not mortally, if by “same sex attraction” you mean sexual desire directed to the same sex. Otherwise, if same sex attraction is devoid of sexual desire toward the same sex then the words are clear: it may not be considered sin.
The church always keeps her standards. It is the haters of the church that does not keep the church’s standards.
From the CDC:
Ah. I see. One must actively “hate” the Catholic Church rather than simply not be a member of it not to consider oneself bound by its standards.
How would same sex attraction be devoid of desire? It is not a sin according to the Church. You are placing a heavier burden on some than they already have. This is like the the scribes and pharisees that Jesus addressed so often. I will not ever tell someone they “must” be heterosexual. I will caution them only on the behavior but I will not tell them to be something they are not.
Underscore disordered sexual desire, that is a sin. And the **sexual desire **is considered disordered when it is sought for itself isolated from the procreative and unitive purpose. The homosexual’s sexual desire is isolated from any procreative purpose. It is clear, therefore that it is disordered sexual desire and a sin. Where does the church say that such kind of disordered sexual desire not a sin?
Using percentages often make things look a lot more dire than they are. For instance 31% of 40,000 HIV cases for heterosexuals translates to about 12,400 people a year, Compare that to a heterosexual population of of Aprox 290 million and you will see that your chances of getting HIV from heterosexual conduct is next to none. If Your kid has sex with his girlfriend in the back seat of your car there are far more lkely to be hit by lightning when they stepped out of the car than they are getting HIV by the encounter, In fact ones chance of getting HIV by heterosexua contact is .000048%
Goodbye. You must think I am in a constant state of serious sin so there is no point in carrying on this conversation.
Jesus said, “He who is not against you is for you.”
I am following the standard of Christ. I just happen to have a homosexual orientation.
Truth may hurt, but it is still truth. Good bye and God Bless. May you find end to the disordered sexual desire that there may be.