Your Personal Alcohol Consuption

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anjoh66 said:
No, it is not peer pressure, it is an alcoholistic behaviour and a sign that the disease has started to develop.

Any drunkness that leads to a blackout is a sign that the person has developed alcoholism.

Scientists say that one blackout means that the person is an alcoholic and will no longer be able to take back the Control of his drinking, it can still take long time Before it is obvious but there is no return, only total abstinence.
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I think that is a bit extreme. I have seen people called a lightweight, or bet someone that they could out drink them and then BAM passed out. I have also seen the same people go to a party the next weekend and not drink a drop. I have seen many fraternity guys who raged hard in college to turn around to be family men who hardly ever drink. To say that one blackout (or many) makes the person an alcoholic who will never be able to take back control is wrong. I have blacked out twice in my life. Once was my 21st birthday and the other was at my bachelorette party. I can tell you that I am not an alcoholic whatsoever. I haven’t had an alcoholic beverage in 2-3 weeks. If I decide I want a drink today. I can stop at one drink.
 
KendraDZ1902 said:
I think that is a bit extreme. I have seen people called a lightweight, or bet someone that they could out drink them and then BAM passed out. I have also seen the same people go to a party the next weekend and not drink a drop. I have seen many fraternity guys who raged hard in college to turn around to be family men who hardly ever drink. To say that one blackout (or many) makes the person an alcoholic who will never be able to take back control is wrong. I have blacked out twice in my life. Once was my 21st birthday and the other was at my bachelorette party. I can tell you that I am not an alcoholic whatsoever. I haven’t had an alcoholic beverage in 2-3 weeks. If I decide I want a drink today. I can stop at one drink.
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Well you should read this:

alcoholism.about.com/od/brain/a/Are-Alcohol-Blackouts-Real.htm
 
KendraDZ1902 said:
An article on about.com trumps personal experience? I was taught in college that .com sites have agendas. Some professors won’t allow you to use those sites in papers. If you believe that a person who gets super drunk a few times in their life is an alcoholic, then go ahead and think that, buddy. I happen to disagree and from personal experience know otherwise.
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There is a difference of opinion, anyhow i think all can agree that drinking till you reach a blackout is definitely alcohol abuse and a very riskful behaviour that eventually leads to the developement of the disease of alcoholism.
 
anjoh66 said:
Well you should read this:

alcoholism.about.com/od/brain/a/Are-Alcohol-Blackouts-Real.htm
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OK, I read the article. It does not say that if you have one blackout, you are an alcoholic.

I am not recommending to anyone they drink to that point, or for that matter, several points before that one. There are some groups of people that are extremely susceptible to alcohol and alcoholism; native Americans come immediately to mind. that is a separate issue.
 
Mary_Gail_36 said:
Do you get a head ache with both white and red? Some people can tolerate white better.

I never got a taste for beer. I have it very rarely, my sister recommended a fancier brand which I liked, I think I had it last year at a barbecue. Don’t remember the brand though.

I don’t drink often. When I do it’s a glass, or one mixed drink. The most I ever drank at one sitting was perhaps 6 shots of something very watery. It was “ladies night” at a club.

My dad used to make homemade wine. We had a wine press and a wine barrel. He’d purchase a mix of different grapes ( a few cases). It took a few steps that I don’t remember. I think it would be in late august, early September.

The wine would be ready on the Feast of St. Martin, so early November.

My grandparents in Italy had a small vineyard. For the grape harvest they would have a picnic. It was supposedly a very nice time.
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More with red, but actually I get a headache while drinking most forms of alcohol, except beer. And that’s only because I usually only drink one beer at a time. If I drink more than 1, I would get a headache for sure. God must be telling me to stop now. I did quite a bit of binge drinking when I was in my 20’s. Never blacked out but had some pretty bad lapses in judgment while drunk. I never could “hold my liquor,” always went from buzzed to blasted in 3 - 4 drinks.

I have noticed that I will think of alcohol sometimes when I am emotional - either feeling self-pity, anger, or resentment. But as someone who has chronic depression, turning to a substance that IS a depressant is not smart.
 
It depends on where I am…at home in the summer, I don’t drink very much - a glass of wine 3-4 times per month, a mixed drink nearly every Sunday afternoon, and like 5 beers per month. Give or take 1-2 for all of those, of course.

I think that both extremes regarding alcohol are kind of sad. Of course, getting drunk all of the time abuses the alcohol, which should be enjoyed, but I think it’s impossible to enjoy it if you’re only drinking to get drunk. On the other hand, I am baffled by the position that doesn’t drink at all, unless it is because they think they might abuse it. Alcohol should be enjoyed, in moderation of course. Obviously if one doesn’t like the taste of alcohol, then that’s fine too.

When I’m at school, every now and then I’ll go out to some sort of a “party” (not one where everyone just gets drunk). Or a similar situation will come up; in these situations, I drink a little bit more, often until I begin to feel it, but not so that I lose my reason and ability to function properly. For me personally, I rather enjoy these episodes because, well, it’s nice to be all jolly and carefree for a night or a few hours in the midst of the stresses of school. And drinking a certain amount makes me, and many others, I’m sure, jolly. As long as I control myself to not drink too much, I think it actually brings out a good thing in me.

Otherwise, when I’m at school, I’ll have a mixed drink (usually gin and tonic) now and then; I probably average a beer or two per week, and I probably average a glass of wine or so per week, depending on how often I purchase it - after all, I am a relatively poor college student. 😉
 
Teetotal for most of the year, due to geography 😉

When I am at home I enjoy wine with a meal, and Portuguese family members have taught me to drink red wine the way they do, mixed with Coke, or Sprite (7-up), or Fanta orange; in winter a sweet sherry is yummy; an ice cold liqueur in summer is also tasty; and a gin and tonic is good; champagne for celebrating. Then there’s Irish coffee.

One thing that I do not drink, ever, is beer…I’ve tried…and just do not like it at all…nor does it like me, it makes me feel ill.

But I’m just a one drink an evening drinker, and not necessarily every evening either.
 
I’ve been a home-brewer for thirty-plus years…I grew up in a German-Irish household, and my father and grandfather were home-brewers…I can’t remember a time that I didn’t like beer…REALLY like beer…that said, I’ll drink two or three beers on a weekend evening, and usually have one with a meal at a restaurant…in summer, I’ll drink ‘lawnmower beer’ as a thirst quencher.
 
Seems like the older I get the less I can drink at one time but the frequency of drinking has increased. Basically wine and or beer. Sometimes a little too much. Like 2-3 glasses of wine with dinner, wait an hour or so then have 2-3 beers. I came from a background of friends and family that all drink a lot. A lot. No alcoholics but definitely some heavy drinkers. Generational too. I’m a lightweight compared to them.

Never concerned myself with alcoholism much because for most of my life (after marriage anyway) I only drank once or twice a week and rarely more than I should. Now, beer gets me too full (I refuse to drink light beer) and wine gets ya too loopy. Never drank hard liquor much. Too much tequila one day in college at my best friends 21st birthday party. Now, even a whiff bothers me. Shots seem like a waste of valuable resources… money, time and capacity. I’m a thoroughbred not a quarter miler. Ha…

I’m partial to lagers for beer (from Bud to German Monks) and dark red wines (the impossibly delicate balance between fruity, bright and dry… not too oakey… suggestions?)
 
boldlygo said:
I’ve been a home-brewer for thirty-plus years…I grew up in a German-Irish household, and my father and grandfather were home-brewers…I can’t remember a time that I didn’t like beer…REALLY like beer…that said, I’ll drink two or three beers on a weekend evening, and usually have one with a meal at a restaurant…in summer, I’ll drink ‘lawnmower beer’ as a thirst quencher.
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Hubby and I have always wanted to home-brew. We just have never gotten around to it.
The pregnancies and periods of nursing haven’t really inspired me to want to brew anyway.

A girlfriend of mine, my former roommate, home-brews.
She is amazing at it.
She is the president of her local home-brew club.
She makes hers on tap and would pour out growlers for us when we visited. She makes a mean blueberry ale.
 
I my younger days, I drank quite a bit, mostly beer & shots (Jack Daniels, Southern Comfort or tequila).

I am a chef, so most of my drinking now revolves around meals I prepare for friends. A few times a year a group of us gather and I prepare a menu from appetizes to desserts, and each course usually has it’s own special cocktail or wine.

Other than that, I may have a glass of wine or 2, or couple of beers, or some of my favorite single-malt Scotch (one of my new “passions”- I really hope that if I make it to heaven, they have Scotch whiskey there! :p), 4-5 times a month
 
PRmerger said:
I find this question interesting, because of the difference in family cultures regarding drinking.

I grew up in a household where parties/social life centered around food.

My sisterinlaw grew up in a household where parties/social life were all about the drinks.

This came to an interesting convergence when I attended the after-wedding gift-opening party of my brother and this sisterinlaw at her mother’s home.

We were invited there at noon. As soon as I entered the house I was offered a drink. I declined, and almost said (but for some reason, thankfully, I held my tongue, ) “I’ll just have a drink when we eat, thanks.”

We never ate. We were never offered food. It was simply a drinks and opening-gifts party.

Thank goodness I hadn’t been obvious about my expectation that we would be eating. 😃
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You may be interested in reading “The Truth About Addiction” and learn that as you say households differ…Cultures differ…you will find there drinking habits of the Irish, Chinese and Jews with the outcome of those cultures as it projects future drinking habits in those cultures and the consequences or not.
 
anjoh66 said:
No, it is not peer pressure, it is an alcoholistic behaviour and a sign that the disease has started to develop.

Any drunkness that leads to a blackout is a sign that the person has developed alcoholism.

Scientists say that one blackout means that the person is an alcoholic and will no longer be able to take back the Control of his drinking, it can still take long time Before it is obvious but there is no return, only total abstinence.
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This scientist says that there is not now or ever been a disease called alcoholism. It is a myth. You can read about it here…
 
anjoh66 said:
Well you should read this:

alcoholism.about.com/od/brain/a/Are-Alcohol-Blackouts-Real.htm
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From Buddy T:
After years of recovery, I’m still trying to find all the information I can. Although my own recovery experiences have been through a 12-step program, I know there are many other approaches that work.
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written by Buddy T…this is AA propaganda and if you want to believe in this…your choice…you need to know…

Disease=12 step religion of AA=once diseased always diseased…with what??

A spiritual disease? Say what…yup…gotta correct your character defects…

What are those…

Sins…you discover in the 12 and 12…

by confessing…

Wait…disease…sins…confessing…

If it is a disease for which there is no cure…why are you or anyone going to a meeting with a bunch of people that are non-professionals that have the disease for which there is no cure…

The only disease that is treated by not treating it.
 
KendraDZ1902 said:
An article on about.com trumps personal experience? I was taught in college that .com sites have agendas. Some professors won’t allow you to use those sites in papers. If you believe that a person who gets super drunk a few times in their life is an alcoholic, then go ahead and think that, buddy. I happen to disagree and from personal experience know otherwise.
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Take it from a Physician…ignore this baloney…
 
anjoh66 said:
There is a difference of opinion, anyhow i think all can agree that drinking till you reach a blackout is definitely alcohol abuse and a very riskful behaviour that eventually leads to the developement of the disease of alcoholism.
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The disease is a myth.
 
Timothysis said:
Just out of curiosity, how many people here drink alcohol?

Me? I’m a teetotaler! I don’t have a moral problem with alcohol, I just don’t see any reason to consume it. I do personally believe, however, that many people drink far too much and that alcohol abuse has contributed to untold amounts of woe for mankind.

I would appreciate anyone’s perspective on the subject.
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Personal comsumption…

Trader Joes has a wine tasting on occasion. You get about 4 sips and sometimes I do this.

There is a wine store that has an afternoon wine tasting from 1-4 and I have gone a few times however I usually get bored and leave.

I buy a beer once a month, from Trader Joes, and usually chill it in the freezer before I drink it.

Once in awhile I buy some Old Bushmills Irish Whiskey. It is expensive. I keep it around for as long as it stays around and have a sip once or twice a month while I have it however I rarely buy it.

Alcohol is empty calories. I run, walk, bike, swim, lift weights and basically I do not find it to be very healthy.

It isn’t a good beverage before exercise. I want water after I excercise.

I would rather drink a route 44 diet cherry limeade from Sonic or Arnold Palmer 1/2 lemonade ice tea beverage…on occasion some diet Mountain dew…

Mixed drinks and wine at home are not very inviting. I drive most places so drinking while out is not something I ever consider.
 
CopticChristian said:
This scientist says that there is not now or ever been a disease called alcoholism. It is a myth.
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👍 “The Scientists opinion” I like it. The AMA that declared “alcoholism” a disease is a club of doctors. They are not the final authority on what is or is not a disease. There are plenty of doctors who say alcoholism is not a disease. I have heard this same club the AMA also said tobacco is not addictive back in the 50’s or 60’s. Or perhaps it was that tobacco was not harmful? Something along those lines anyways. The AMA is not infallible in what they declare.
 
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