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Like those in Portland? Or New York City, Seattle, Kenosha, Minneapolis, Atlanta, DC, St Louis, those people who have decided for themselves what the “spirit of the law” is.
‘Fire Tucker Carlson’: Fox News Host Condemned for Comments on Deadly Shooting of Kenosha Protesters
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I was basing my view of his possession of the gun being illegal based on news articles.
“The Illinois teenager also faces felony charges of attempted first-degree intentional homicide and two charges of first-degree recklessly endangering safety, and a misdemeanor charge of possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18.”
“The Illinois teenager also faces felony charges of attempted first-degree intentional homicide and two charges of first-degree recklessly endangering safety, and a misdemeanor charge of possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18.”
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His attorney claims differently.
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I am sure he does 
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His attorney is correct. The WI Law on minors carrying weapons explicitly exempts persons over 16 who are not in violation of hunting regulations, and are not carrying a short-barreled rifle or shotgun.
Like DA’s who selectively prosecute to please SJW’s? Law and order was abandoned as soon rioting and looting was tolerated and condoned. Now a few people have the power of will to rise above the anarcho-tyranny our political class promotes and resist it. They are heroes.
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The bottom line is whether his opinion is sufficiently backed by reason and evidence. Apparently you are quite ready to “target” his opinion, cut his pay and call him overpaid without providing any evidence or reasons at all. Certainly that is your opinion, but absent any reasoning to back it up we can safely dismiss it as without substance. When you want to provide some meat to go with your words perhaps we can treat your opinion with the seriousness it potentially deserves.ksb1020:
And that is the bottom line.
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Another opinion absent any evidence. He wasn’t “breaking” the law because it is legal in Wisconsin for 16 and 17 year olds to carry hunting rifles, which is what the AR15 is.
There is “outrage” but only on the part of those who hold a particular political perspective.
Got any other facts you care to dispute?
I suppose you can be forgiven because the liberal media including Twitter are banning facts and evidence on this case that don’t fit their progressive narrative.
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You may want to look more judiciously into what laws do and don’t come into play here.
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Right. Which is what your progressive Democrat friends are attempting to do by defunding police and trashing basic constitutional rights like self defence and the presumption of innocence.Anonkun:
Once you allow people to decide for themselves what is in the “spirit of the law”, you have abandoned law and order.LeafByNiggle:
The point of law and order is to have a peaceful society. A gun held by a responsible young man is more in the spirit of law and order than a bunch of criminals trying to burn down a city.
Tell me again how the rioters have been peacefully and patiently waiting for proper judicial determinations on Floyd, Blake, Rittenhouse, et al before they loot and destroy businesses and murder innocent people in the cause of “justice.”
Yup, the “spirit of the law” is being gutted by those who have decided for themselves what the spirit is that ought to take hold and have pre-eminence.
Apparently, even in small things like having hair coiffed, there are some who believe their political affiliation immunizes them against the effects of the virus while condemning the less fortunate (deplorables?) who must shutter their businesses, wear masks and follow every dot and tittle of the California laws that don’t apply to those who make the rules.
I would guess that …once you allow people who make the laws to decide for themselves what is in the “spirit of the law” and who is utterly exempt from those laws you have abandoned law and order.
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I have to agree that it was being used for hunting, just a different quarry than the four-legged kind.
Interesting place, this Kenosha, where a black man without a weapon can be shot in the back, but a white kid with an assault rifle can walk right past police after killing people and not be stopped and questioned. I know there is more than one narrative, and the facts have not shaken out, but these two facts I do not think are disputed.
Now the young man is facing a hard lesson from his excursion, one that will affect him for life, which is more than he left his victims.
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WingedHussar
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There is no evidence that Kyle was hunting anyone. Every one of his assailants attacked him first. The communists were shot justifiably.
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Does anyone in this thread have a Catholic viewpoint on the issue of Mr Carlson?
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There is evidence, just not proof.
He doesn’t live there, but drove across the state line.
He took his gun.
He killed two protesters.
The first rule of self-defense used to be that one did not deliberately confront the person, and they had the capability of backing down. One does not carry a gun if one does not intend to shoot it, at this case, at people. I defining hunting as going to find that person to shoot, which seems to fit, since he drove to where he knew targets to be.
In any case, he is locked up at 17 facing life in prison.
He doesn’t live there, but drove across the state line.
He took his gun.
He killed two protesters.
The first rule of self-defense used to be that one did not deliberately confront the person, and they had the capability of backing down. One does not carry a gun if one does not intend to shoot it, at this case, at people. I defining hunting as going to find that person to shoot, which seems to fit, since he drove to where he knew targets to be.
In any case, he is locked up at 17 facing life in prison.
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There is not one, that I know of. I would say that the Church is a more pro-life and does not take death so casually.
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Your facts are incorrect. Blake was NOT “unarmed,” he had a knife in his hand and likely another weapon in the vehicle. The police were called because he had sexually assaulted the woman who called the police in front of her child. You may want to look at alternative sources of information. The MSM is trying to push a particular narrative so their reporting is, let’s just say, missing a few details.HarryStotle:
I have to agree that it was being used for hunting, just a different quarry than the four-legged kind.
Interesting place, this Kenosha, where a black man without a weapon can be shot in the back, …
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How do you know he took his gun across state lines? According to his attorney, the gun was given to him by a WI business owner who requested help defending his property.
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The journalist in question is from the Daily Caller and he is very supportive of Rittenhouse’s actions. Rittenhouse didn’t “walk past” the police. He went to them with arms raised to turn himself in to them. They drove past him.WingedHussar:
I don’t know. It seems that there was a journalist that was close to the first killing and I think his testimony was a key element in gaining an indictment. The others that were shot could be said to be protecting others from someone who had just murdered someone. I think it is likely that the shooter will get convicted of a serious crime, albeit maybe not first degree murder.
The fact that he walked right past the Kenosha PD after killing two people and wounding another tells me that people are not wrong in wanting to defund the police. The Kenosha police department might be too poisoned to fix.
As to whether he ought to have remained in the scene or gone back to the area of the shooting with potentially dozens of livid riotous individuals out to get him, I think he made the right choice to leave and turn himself in the next day.
Colion Noir is a lawyer and ex-police officer who breaks down the testimony of the journalist in this video.
I’ve seen different analyses of the events in question. Rittenhouse was targetted by the mob for extinguishing a fire in a dumpster that was meant to burn down the mechanic shop. Rosenbaum, his first victim was after him repeatedly attempting to chase him down and get the gun. The journalist, McGinnis, in written testimony, states that Rosenbaum trapped Rittenhouse, and attempted to get the gun before he was shot.
FYI, there were a total of 23 shots fired in the timespan in question, only 7 came from Rittenhouse’s gun. The fellow who had his bicep severed by Rittenhouse’s gunshot, had his handgun aimed at Rittenhouse’s head when he was shot. He told a friend the next day in hospital that his only regret was hesitating to unload the entire magazine into Rittenhouse’s head.
Your version of the story doesn’t fit the facts. Neither does your assessment of the Kenosha police come with any real evidence. That is the real problem with the way these cases are being discussed - opinions completely devoid of facts.
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You can get an indictment easily. In a shooting case, it can be almost guaranteed due to the gravity of the issue.
The problem with that narrative is that it has no relation to reality. Kyle fled from each of his assailants and only fired after they presented an imminent threat of death or great bodily harm. It amazes me that we have some folks willing to run interference for a pedophile and an illegally armed burglar!
If you want to eliminate a professional police department, this is what law enforcement is gonna look like. Civilian militias armed with rifles shooting bad guys in the street with no arrest and no trial.
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My mistake. I meant to say he did not have a gun. Time will tell if the shooting in the back when he had a knife was justified. The reason the police are called, what they suspect has zero to do with the justification of a police shooting.
That does happen with all the MSM, FOX included, there is no denying that. I will give the benefit of the doubt on the Blake shooting as it is now being investigated. Nonetheless, the idea this kid left the scene, with alleged murder weapon in clear view of the police and was not even stopped.
I will also point out that the rush to judgment that these murder victims are some how to blame for being shot is sheer hypocrisy. Judge, or do not. Do not have one standard for white kids and cops, then another for liberals and blacks.
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You haven’t looked into their backgrounds, have you?
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Right. Your evidence for “systematic racism” among LEOs is about as substantial as the evidence you are providing in your posts on the shootings in Kenosha. You may not want to rush to judgement on either.
Rittenhouse will be found innocent of the felonies based solely on the merits of the case.
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