‘Fire Tucker Carlson’: Fox News Host Condemned for Comments on Deadly Shooting of Kenosha Protesters

[HarryStotle]

HarryStotle:

You haven’t looked into their backgrounds, have you?

So, they deserved to be murdered?

You don’t seem to be able to distinguish between what they “deserved” and what was justifiable in terms of how Rittenhouse acted.

It could just as easily been Rittenhouse who ended up with several bullets to the head. He wouldn’t have deserved that either.

The problem is when rioters like the three victims take it upon themselves to destroy property, livelihoods, and community security on the grounds that they can carry out vigilante destruction on the whole community despite that the evidence isn’t even all in on the actions of the Kenosha police officers.

Do you really believe that mobs of individuals - and all 3 of the 3 that Rittenhouse shot have extensive criminal records - have a right to wantonly destroy property, cause mayhem and threaten people without repercussions? And do you really believe members of the community, like Rittenhouse, have no right to protect themselves, others and their property?

There seems a real disconnect in your thinking here. You claim that the police ought to be defunded because citizens can look after their own policing but then don’t consider what that “looking after” involves when citizens go about doing it.

Sounds to me that you are trying to justify rioting, looting and disgraceful behaviour as long as it is done in response to some perceived injustice, even before the actual injustice has been determined. Speaking of individuals deciding for themselves what the “spirit of justice” ought to look like.

 

[Berit]

Because people don’t care when you commit a misdemeanor. I bet you’ll never break the speed limit without thinking about that again. Besides, self defense and the defense of others is always a defense for a crime committed in order to protect yourself. The outrage should be from the people that live there that were abandoned by the politicians. They woke up like you and me, wanting to leave the day a little better than they found it. They went to bed and were startled awake to discover their town was under attack. Makes me want to cry for them.

 

[JonNC]

As far as I can tell, AR-15s are legal in Illinois. Besides, going into a mob of dangerous thugs is the best time to have a gun for self defense.

His lawyer said it was a legal carry of a legal firearm. We’ll see.

It seems as though his illegal actions are not only acceptable to you but maybe even considered good. He literally killed 2 people.

Whether his actions were legal or illegal has not yet been determined.
Multiple things can be true at once.

1. A 17 year old should not have been there under those circumstances. One wonders where his parents were.
2. videos seem to show he did not instigate or cause the enduring violence, that it may have been self defense
3. had the mayor and governor done their jobs, law enforcement would have been protecting people and property, and the attempt by a 17 year old to fo do would have been unnecessary.

 

[MikeInVA]

I would prefer my police not shoot people in their backs and let gunmen go free away from a possible crime scene.

I’d prefer for the police to not let gunmen “go free away”. Stopping criminals is kind of what they’re supposed to do, don’t you think?

 

[Zzyzx_Road]

I put this post up in another thread, but it goes just as well here:

They’re trying to tag Rittenhouse with a charge around the illegality of the weapon at his age. But that is open to interpretation as WI laws aren’t as straightforward as one might expect. Here is a comment from elsewhere that expands on this:

Wisconsin Legislature: 948.60 :

948.60(2)(a) Any person under 18 years of age who possesses or goes armed with a dangerous weapon is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor.

BUT

948.60(3)© This section applies only to a person under 18 years of age who possesses or is armed with a rifle or a shotgun if the person is in violation of s. 941.28 or is not in compliance with ss. 29.304 and 29.593.

941.28 Possession of short-barreled shotgun or short-barreled rifle. (if the barrel was 16" and total length 26" he’s good.)

29.304 Restrictions on hunting and use of firearms by persons under 16 years of age. (we’re clear here.)

29.593 Requirement for certificate of accomplishment to obtain hunting approval. (not applicable; you don’t need a hunting license for self defense.)

…So the way these statutes interact is if A) you have a rifle or shotgun, B) it is a full-size weapon, C) you are at least 16, and D) you’re not hunting without a license, then 948.60 does not apply to you.

Further commentary said WI gun codes around minors are somewhat convoluted due to the presence of deer hunters in the state who would not take kindly to not being able to take their minor children hunting with them so the WI legislature could not simply ban all under 18 persons from having firearms. If you want to say they didn’t write that code well, you’ll get no argument from me.

So while the progressives scream about the illegal gun, this question is going to have to be decided in the courts in addition to that Rittenhouse has a very good case for self defense.

I find it very interesting that one can hardly find anything reporting that the third man, Gaige Grosskreutz, who was wounded in the bicep was himself carrying a handgun. There is at least one photograph that clearly shows Grosskreutz still holding his gun after he was wounded. It is a nasty looking photo showing the extent of the wound so I will not link it here. But anyone with a strong stomach can find it with some searching. The alternate sites are alleging that Grosskreutz is a felon who is not supposed to able to carry a gun. Some have said Grosskreutz volunteered as a medic. If so, then what is a medic doing with a gun? What was a medic doing chasing someone with a gun? There does not appear to be any investigation into whether Grosskreutz was carrying illegally.

One more, a friend alleged on social media that Grosskreutz’s only regret was that he had hesitated to shoot Rittenhouse. One can find this on Twitter. Again because the particular Twitter threads include nasty photos of the wound, I will not link them here.

 

[JonNC]

Well, I think so. The Kenosha Police Dept is an embarrassment and makes the case for ‘defunding’ the police.

Is that because they did little to nothing to stop the rioting and violence?
Isn’t all of this, from the confrontation With Blake forward, the direct responsibility of the mayor?

 

[Dr_Meinheimer]

I am sure he does

Why don’t yopu save everyone time and just come out and admit you wish gun ownership was illegal, and stop pretending this is about Kyle breaking some nebulous law you have yet to cite, or an inconsistency with a law and order message. You aren’t fooling anyone and forcing me to hit the space bar far too often to scroll down through posts.

 

[Ridgerunner]

No, because Blake was shot in the back and because they let the shooter involved in two killings walk away.

Did they see the shootings by Rittenhouse?

 

[JonNC]

No, because Blake was shot in the back and because they let the shooter involved in two killings walk away.

The mayor is in charge of the police department. He runs the police department. He sets the culture of the police department.

He walked away? I was not aware of the charges being dropped
Has the guy who chased him with a gun been charged?

Again, in all of this, the mayor is responsible. The mayor set the culture for law enforcement in that city.

 

[Ridgerunner]

People were yelling to the police that he had shot three people, so you would think that might warrant investigation.

But did the police see it?

 

[JonNC]

So, the mayor should fire the police and then replace them or the people should fire the mayor.

The mayor and his chosen police department leaders should resign. And this should happen in every progressive run city where this has happened.

People were yelling to the police that he had shot three people, so you would think that might warrant investigation.

Yes. So he was arrested and charged with murder. Now the investigation starts.

 

[Ridgerunner]

I heard what that reporter said about what he saw, and it sure didn’t seem Rittenhouse was guilty of anything other than being a fool to get himself in the middle of a crowd like that.

But I guess Carlson isn’t entitled to have an opinion (or a job) because he’s conservative.

And Rittenhouse isn’t entitled to defend his life against violent leftists.

I think we can guess what kind of world we’ll be in if Biden is elected.

 

[JonNC]

Well, they should, but, it’s up to the people to fire the mayor if he doesn’t fire the chief and police.

First, he needs to stop intentionally allowing violence from his political allies to rule the streets.

Good thing there were lots of videos otherwise he might have disappeared into the ether.

The videos show him going toward the police, not running away.
Fortunately there are videos to counteract the false propaganda from progressives.

 

[Ridgerunner]

I think we can plainly see that this is the kind of world we have with Trump as President.

You are blaming Trump for something that was started by a member of the Minneapolis police department and exacerbated by organizations funded and encouraged by Democrats. Amazing.

 

[TMC]

They’re trying to tag Rittenhouse with a charge around the illegality of the weapon at his age.

Whether merely carrying the weapon was legal or not seems somewhat less important than the double murder charge.

 

[JonNC]

I think we can plainly see that this is the kind of world we have with Trump as President.

Trump has absolutely nothing to do with this event. Nothing, zero, not one iota.

Trump isn’t responsible for the actions of:
Individual police.
Police departments.
Leftist disintegrationists intent on destroying the republic by using black shirt tactics in our major cities
Mayors who Intentionally allow them to do so.
Governors who intentionally Choose not to intervene.
17 year olds who act foolishly precisely because mayors and governors intentionally choose to not protect the individual rights of their citizens.

 

[JonNC]

Whether merely carrying the weapon was legal or not seems somewhat less important than the double murder charge.

Please tell @Thbolt that he has been charged and was not allowed to “walk away”.

 

[TMC]

Please tell @Thbolt that he has been charged and was not allowed to “walk away”.

Well, the fact is both are true.

 

[JonNC]

JonNC:

Please tell @Thbolt that he has been charged and was not allowed to “walk away”.

Well, the fact is both are true.

If he was allowed to walk away, there would be no charges, by definition.

 

[pnewton]

Well, I think so. The Kenosha Police Dept is an embarrassment and makes the case for ‘defunding’ the police.

If this is true, the Rittenhouse makes a better case for not de-funding the police. Without police, then what he did would be the only other option for defense. Some people cannot defend themselves, so they will look to inexperienced, sophomoric gun-toters to come “defend” them.