“Columbus noster est!” “Christopher Columbus is ours!”

[commenter]

The Left isn’t stopping with Columbus:

St. Junipero Serra Statue to Be Removed From California City

The move comes as statues of Confederate figures are being removed following the protests against police brutality and the death of George Floyd.

t.co

 

[TheBomb.Com]

Reading about him, he definitely isn’t a perfect figure, given his role in the suppression of native culture and involvement in the Spanish Inquisition.

He seemed like a good person who’s heart was in the right place. Not someone to idolize though.

 

[MiserereMei]

Firstly i am in favour of national healthcare also so i am not sure why i am supposed to be scared with that. It is a big issue and certainly there can be nationalised health which can be created that is more in line with the destructive philosophies of the Left. I certainly oppose those.

Good job for being right on the issue of needing a universal healthcare system. Bad job on the “destructive philosophies” reference. I try to not do the same to the right. Ah well, I’ll take the crumbs I can get.

Lastly today we only say ‘right’ as opposition to the Left which is a definite group referring to the Left side of the French Parliament at the time of the revolution.

I am familiar with the origin of the terms.

This is correct although the Left are in the moral driving seat of the Democratic Party and have been there for at least a couple of decades.

I wish that were the case. Of course, I view economics as a moral issue, so … maybe you aren’t referring to that.

If you want to know about alternate news services i recommend The Duran in Europe and Bill Whittle and Daily Wire in the USA.

There are also many groups that like myself come out of the Left and now are critical of it including in Britain Sargon of Akkad and Brendan O’Neil’s Spiked.

I was hoping for someone/thing better. I used to follow to a lot of these in my conservative days. Ah well. If that’s the best the Right has, then what can one do?

Glad I took my time responding so I could catch this:

Thirdly the polarisation you speak of is a direct and purposeful consequence of the Left’s take over of education and media for the preceding decades which go back to the cold war.

They have gradually and purposefully replaced other voices that used to dominate including the Catholic voice.

There are other explanations. And I would argue that blaming everything on one side contributes to the polarization. There are those on the left that I disown. Like those who use violence. Or certain overreaching strains of feminism/identity politics.

:: Because obviously the side I happen to be on has no guilt whatsoever in any of the problems. It’s all the other side’s fault! ::\sarcasm

 

[silentwitness]

There are other explanations. And I would argue that blaming everything on one side contributes to the polarization.

:: Because obviously the side I happen to be on has no guilt whatsoever in any of the problems. It’s all the other side’s fault! ::\sarcasm

Remember that these are your words, assumptions and projections, not mine.

I simply believe in calling a spade a spade.

And the clear historic legacy of the Left has been division, authoritarianism and violence in the name of a secular moral code.

I don’t have a side except to be Catholic and oppose the evil of Leftism.

 

[RolandThompsonGunner]

He seemed like a good person who’s heart was in the right place. Not someone to idolize though.

I think that, viewing Columbus in the most favorable light, you would have to say he was an excellent navigator who was in way over his head as an administrator and performed abysmally as a governor.

 

[TheBomb.Com]

No, he was actually terrible. No good-hearted person would enslave indigenous peoples.

 

[MiserereMei]

I simply believe in calling a spade a spade.

And the clear historic legacy of the Left has been division, authoritarianism and violence in the name of a secular moral code.

I don’t have a side except to be Catholic and oppose the evil of Leftism.

Ok, you got a laugh out of me with this one. Good job.

 

[Sarcelle]

I cannot give enough likes for your post.

Good points about the apostles.

They managed to evangelize without committing genocide.

One good example was the American occupation of the Philippines. The motto at the time was to Christianize the Philippines, which was an ignorant statement because Spain had converted the native populace to Catholicism. However it led to attempted genocide.

https://scholarcommons.scu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1138&context=historical-perspectives

 

[Sarcelle]

I think that, viewing Columbus in the most favorable light, you would have to say he was an excellent navigator who was in way over his head as an administrator and performed abysmally as a governor.

I don’t think he was a good navigator. He vastly underestimated the distance it took from Europe to Asia by sailing West and ignored the advice of Portuguese navigators who were the best in their field. They rightly had the idea that the distances involved was much larger than Columbus had in mind.

Of course no European knew at the time that there was an entire continent in between Asia and Europe.

 

[RolandThompsonGunner]

I don’t think he was a good navigator. He vastly underestimated the distance it took from Europe to Asia by sailing West and ignored the advice of Portuguese navigators who were the best in their field. They rightly had the idea that the distances involved was much larger than Columbus had in mind.

Fair point. I was trying to imagine the best case scenario while still keeping it plausible.

 

[commenter]

Apostles evangelised entire communities without feeling the need to try to raise armies and kill or rape anyone, by the way.

Probably every evangelism effort, on all countries, in all centuries, was accused by some parties of having used force, lies, trickery, bribery corruption, or some sinister means.

 

[VanitasVanitatum]

Thirdly the polarisation you speak of is a direct and purposeful consequence of the Left’s take over of education and media over the preceding decades which go back to the cold war.

No both sides are guilty.