2 Infected Hairstylists & 140 Customers Wore Masks — No New Infections

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@RidgeSprinter you’ve got some defective data there.

The US mortality rate is running around 1.5%, not 4%
South Korea is one of the few countries with a lower rate (just under 1%),

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sallybutler said:
P.S. Most schools aren’t open in July.
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(Because all my summer college classes were full, years ago, I just presumed that everybody knew that most colleges used to offer summer sessions, pre-COVID-19. I’m not a good judge in determining what is or is not common knowledge.)

And, here are COVID-19 death rates by age group:
A study based in Geneva, Switzerland came up with the following numbers:
5-9: .0016%
10-19: .00032%
20-49: .0092%
 
1cthlctrth said:
Those without comorbidities or underlying conditions are more likely to die in a car accident. And schoolchildren, whose lives, mental health, and education we are destroying, are more likely to get struck by lightning.
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But, 2/3 of the population are either overweight or obese, 100 million have high blood pressure, 34 million are diabetic. 30% of children are obese.

So, saying that most people aren’t going to have problems because they have no underlying conditions is not true.
 
PaulinVA said:
30% of children are obese.

So, saying that most people aren’t going to have problems because they have no underlying conditions is not true.
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The latest data from the CDC (representing February 1 to July 8) indicate the following number of COVID-19 deaths by age group for people who are of school age and younger:
under age 1: 9
Ages 1-4 : 7
Ages 5-14: 14

30 deaths altogether under age 15.
Thirty.
 
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The threat of reopening schools, therefore, is the health of teachers, faculty, and childrens’ families. Measures should be aimed at protecting those populations.

And what are those measures?
 
1cthlctrth said:
And, here are COVID-19 death rates by age group:
A study based in Geneva, Switzerland came up with the following numbers:
5-9: .0016%
10-19: .00032%
20-49: .0092%
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This explains the recent COVID parties and uptick in positive tests by the young. Instead of avoiding it, they are getting infected, to get on with their lives.
 
It would also help if we knew whether having the illness actually confers immunity. This is still very much up in the air with suggestions that antibodies may not give protection unless quite high and it seems, the levels fall quickly in some people…so, getting it doesn’t mean you’re done with it!
 
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Not sure what points you are trying to make with your links. The first (SoCal guy) looks to be middle aged and high risk (obese). The second had an autoimmune disorder and was also obese. One would think charges could be filed against the mother.

I didn’t condone youth covid parties, just commented on why I think they are happening.
 
Theo520 said:
Not sure what points you are trying to make with your links. The first (SoCal guy) looks to be middle aged and high risk (obese). The second had an autoimmune disorder and was also obese. One would think charges could be filed against the mother.
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Yeah, they were weak. I was in a hurry.
 
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@RidgeSprinter you’ve got some defective data there.

The US mortality rate is running around 1.5%, not 4%
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No, it is not.

135K / 3555K = 3.9%

That is the national death rate of known COVIC cases.
 
Theo520 said:
Wearing a mask isn’t a guaranteed save for anybody, but overall they reduce the transmission rate (RO) of the virus.

R0 drops even with some people not wearing masks at all, and some wearing them improperly. It will drop even if most just wear a DIY or surgical mask that doesn’t come close to N95 standards
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It is also what type of mask. Cloth masks which many wear are not as effective. They only have a rate of 43% and I wonder if people are washing them and bleaciing them. You can’t just wear the same mask over and over as it picks up germs.

Disposeable masks are costly.
 
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gam197 said:
You can’t just wear the same mask over and over as it picks up germs.
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Yes, it does pick up germs. And different germs have different lifespans and vulnerabiltiy. The SARS-CoV-2 virus is fairly fragile and breaks down in a couple of days on a dry and absorbent surface, like cloth, because the absorbent surface absorbs the protective fatty envelope the virus needs to survive. Also it dies when exposed sunlight for a couple of minutes. Of course washing is the best if the mask can take it.
 
Instead of using a paper bag to rotate masks, I put mine on my dashboard. The only problem I have is the masks getting a sunburn.
 
pnewton said:
No, it is not.

135K / 3555K = 3.9%

That is the national death rate of known COVIC cases.
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I linked to the actual data, it’s now running much lower. - 1.5%. Two months ago it was higher, 7%

I surmise it has dropped because NY etal stopped sending Covid pos patients into their nursing homes.
 
gam197 said:
It is also what type of mask. Cloth masks which many wear are not as effective. They only have a rate of 43% and I wonder if people are washing them and bleaciing them. You can’t just wear the same mask over and over as it picks up germs.
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I heard that claim on the radio yesterday, and it’s not complete. A cloth mask can greatly reduce the spread (RO) by reducing droplet spread from infected people. This reverse look at their value is ignored in the calculation. Cloth masks are also very wearable, unlike N95
 
My data came from the CDC website, not some “flip the script” site. I did not manipulate data or try to find points in order to make a point. I took the raw data.

The current rate cannot be find by dividing the current numbers against the current deaths. During a surge, the numbers of those who die from COVID will lag behind those who have been infected by several weeks. I do not doubt that with the more irresponsible generation being the ones who compromise the initial part of the increase the death rate will go down, just like as they infect more vulnerable people, the death rate would rise.

I have always believe that using websites that try to prove a point is at terrible way to garner useful information for an action plan. Such an approach is only useful to garner information for debate, or at least points for a debate.
 
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