2 Infected Hairstylists & 140 Customers Wore Masks — No New Infections

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More dwarves? (The Hobbit reference)

The median from developing pneumonia to death is 13 days.
Among those who die, the final outcome can come as quickly as two weeks after symptoms start, or up to eight weeks later.
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From Infection to Recovery: How Long It Lasts

The disease’s duration varies widely depending on severity, but now we know the rough range
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Let’s not root for the grim reaper in the case of these 140 contacts. This thread’s story is anecdotal and too soon to be conclusive, but for now, I would think it would be some good news in dark times.
 
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Why the assumption of their thoughts?
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A question does not assume. It asks. My reasoning is based on the way confirmation bias works. People tend to focus on data that supports what they want, and not data that contradicts it. I do not doubt there is a tendency for people who do not want to be inconvenienced by a mask to find where masks do not work and hope they will be shown to be totally ineffectual. I have seen this in my own family, and it is the mechanism of confirmation bias.
 
pnewton said:
A question does not assume. It asks.
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Hmmm…
pnewton said:
Is there some reason you do not want masks to be effective?
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Looks like the larger part of that question is “do not want masks to be effective”.

Looks like a push poll type of question.
You are assuming the position on masks.
It is a leading question and not exactly a charitable one.
 
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The current rate cannot be find by dividing the current numbers against the current deaths.
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Yes, that by definition would be the ‘current rate’. You are reference a cumulative rate. From what I could see the CDC doesn’t proved a rate, they just give tallies by area.

A surge also doesn’t change the death rate, unless there is a significant change in the demographic infected. Thus we should expect to continue seeing a 1.5% or less on new infections.
 
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By that definition, the rate is useless. The point is, If I get COVID, I have the chance of dying a little higher than rolling a 12. For me, it is a little higher.

At the end of the year, the data should average, or by the time the rate is down for a while.
 
Yes

Covid 19 is not fatal for otherwise healthy young people.

However let’s not kid ourselves that the American population is healthy overall.

Too many of us are overweight, more than likely obese, have high blood pressure, have type 2 diabetes, sleep apnea, etc.
 
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Covid 19 is not fatal for otherwise healthy young people.
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One never knows how an individual body will react to something. Most people aren’t allergic to peanut butter. Yet, for many “otherwise healthy young people” it can be fatal. Same with bees.

Your statement reminds me of those commercials that say “should not be taken if allergic to any of the ingredients. May cause death”. You should not get Covid-19 if you are allergic to its symptoms. It could kill you.
 
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The threat of reopening schools, therefore, is the health of teachers, faculty, and childrens’ families. Measures should be aimed at protecting those populations.
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Several countries have conducted studies that have not found material child-to-adult transmission: Australia, Canada, China, France, Iceland, Ireland, Netherlands, Switzerland, Taiwan, United Kingdom.


Roger Highfield, Science Director, talks to Kari Stefansson, whose genetic sequencing project has revealed how the UK infected Iceland, that children don’t seem to infect parents, and how to control COVID-19.

Kari Stefansson is the CEO of the Icelandic company deCODE genetics in Reykjavík, which has studied the spread of COVID-19 in Iceland with Iceland’s Directorate of Health and the National University Hospital:

ARE SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE AT RISK THAN OTHERS?
Children under 10 are less likely to get infected than adults and if they get infected, they are less likely to get seriously ill. What is interesting is that even if children do get infected, they are less likely to transmit the disease to others than adults. We have not found a single instance of a child infecting parents.
 
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ARE SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE AT RISK THAN OTHERS?
Children under 10 are less likely to get infected than adults and if they get infected, they are less likely to get seriously ill. What is interesting is that even if children do get infected, they are less likely to transmit the disease to others than adults. We have not found a single instance of a child infecting parents.
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What Do We Know About Children and Coronavirus Transmission? | KFF

As schools prepare for Fall, this brief examines what's known about children and COVID-19, including the risk the virus poses to children and the risk of children becoming infected and transmitting to others, and the experiences of other countries that reopened classrooms.
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  • What remains unclear and where evidence is still needed is: whether children are less likely to be infected than adults and, when infected, the frequency and extent of their transmission to others. There is some evidence for an age gradient in infectiousness, with younger children less likely and older children more likely to transmit at levels similar to adults.
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Older Children Spread the Coronavirus Just as Much as Adults, Large Study Finds (Published 2020)

The study of nearly 65,000 people in South Korea suggests that school reopenings will trigger more outbreaks.
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And we can test this by fully opening all the schools and observing at which age children get sick and transmit the virus to their teachers and bring it home to their parents and grandparents. Let’s do the experiment and find out.
 
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And we can test this by fully opening all the schools and observing at which age children get sick and transmit the virus to their teachers and bring it home to their parents and grandparents. Let’s do the experiment and find out.
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Are you being sarcastic? I forget where you stand in general on issues.
 
Over 90% of those who have died are over the age of 55. A significant part of this is due to Cuomo and Murphy not securing nursing homes.
(source CDC)

Protect the vulnerable, and let the rest of us produce for the benefit of everybody.
 
Like it or not, we are interdependent on one another. Those of us less vulnerable can still transmit the virus to those who are more vulnerable. We need to consider this, as well as the fact that none of us is immune.
 
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