2012 Republican Presidential Nomination

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I disagree. All of his baggage put aside, I find his conversion to Catholicism sincere, rather than a political stunt to get votes. I still don’t think I would vote for the guy, but it is for reasons other than what you’ve mentioned.
Agreed… Our church examined his two previous marriages and granted an annulment. … I personally think Newt Gingrich is imminently qualified to be president of the United States but has little or no chance of getting the nomination and little chance of being elected if he does get the nomination. Hhaving said that I would vote for him in a minute over Barack Obama
 
Agreed… Our church examined his two previous marriages and granted an annulment. … I personally think Newt Gingrich is imminently qualified to be president of the United States but has little or no chance of getting the nomination and little chance of being elected if he does get the nomination. Hhaving said that I would vote for him in a minute over Barack Obama
To me, it’s not the Church’s forgiving him for his sins,which is right and proper, it’s the “temporal punishment due to sin” that affects him - the business with his wives and the other baggage he carries.
 
New Hampshire Republican Presidential Primary
Romney 36, Bachmann 10, Paul 14, Perry 18, Palin , Huntsman 3, Cain 3, Gingrich 2

Among all voters surveyed Romney remains very popular with a favorable rating of 66% and an unfavorable rating of 24%. Perry also has a significantly favorable image ratio of 51% F / 27% U.

Other candidates though are seeing their negative image ratings rise. Bachmann is still more popular than not with a 49% favorable rating. But 39% say they have an unfavorable opinion of her. Meanwhile, former Obama administration official Jon Huntsman (20% F / 47% U), former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (29% F / 60% U), Texas Rep. Ron Paul (39% F / 47% U) and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum (30% F / 42% U) each have more respondents who say they don’t like them than do. Herm Cain breaks about even with a 36% favorable rating versus 34% unfavorable.
nhjournal.com/2011/08/17/poll-romney-rocks-perry-pops-bachmann-doesn%E2%80%99t-bounce/

More NH polls here:
realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/nh/new_hampshire_republican_presidential_primary-1581.html
 
What is everyone’s opinion of Rick Santorum?
Staunchly pro-life (and he walks the walk). Conservative. Would vote for him in a heartbeat. Doubt he’ll be the nominee. It had been years since a Senator won the Presidency (before the all Senator race of 2008, obviously).
 
Newt left two wives to live with a third woman, now his wife. As I recall he also was reprimanded and some sort of payment required by Congress .(Sorry, I forget the details.)
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Personally, I don't see how anyone can support Newt. He is trying to hoodwink people with his new piety, etc., but let's not be fooled. I would even vote for Obama before Newt!
He was cleared of any wrong doing, but was ordered to pay a fine. He borrowed the money from Bob Dole and eventually paid it back.

As far as his dealings in his personal life…tsk, tsk, tsk.
 
Gilliam probably already beat me to it, but did anyone notice that there are various reports out that NJ Gov. Christie has been focus groupng a possible run for the WH in 2012. This would put my bold, now some two month old, prediction that Perry will be the nominee in some doubt. (Although, I would still put Perry at the lead.) Apparently, he was nudged by Roger Ailes. I must say this is the most unpredictable primary season I can remember. I’m going to step out there and say he won’t run in the end.
 
I’m sorry but the personal lives of various candidates are important to me. I know we should engage in Christian charity, but when a candidate leaves two wives, both ill as I recall, and has extra-marital affairs in all instances - no, I wouldn’t trust him for a moment.
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It's my honest view that Newt figured things out with hsi logic. My only hope of becoming president, he decided, is to become a Catholic. Hopefully that will fool people and clean my slate, and all will be forgiven. If I were to share my full view of him, I would seem to be uncharitable, so let me stop there. If the Church gave him that clean slate, I am very disappointed in the Church. I worry that the Church can be too interested in getting prominent converts and bends the rules and/or looks the other way. I'll eave it up to God to judge Newt, but I will never vote for him.

 Interesting. It just occurs to me that I never hear or read of Catholics who convert to Protestantism, though the Protestant churches in this area are full of ex-Catholics. Protestants don't seem to play that up. Hm. Why the difference? I never see a "Journey Home' program on evangelical TV channels, though they do carry some wild 'prosperity gospel' nonsense.

 Newt is not unique among politicians, of course. The #1 concern of most of them is winning, and many will do almost anything to do that. So far I see nobody that makes me enthusiastic. But there is time. Romney is probably the best qualified, but he's not very exciting - and, to be honest - I'm a bit reluctant to see Mormonism get the boost that his election might give it. Wonderful people, the Mormons, but about as different from Christianity as Islam is - additional prophets, additional scriptures, different doctrines, etc.

 But God bless everybody - yes, even Newt and the Mormons. My faith is in the Lord and not in politicians or denominations of any persuasion.
 
Gilliam probably already beat me to it, but did anyone notice that there are various reports out that NJ Gov. Christie has been focus groupng a possible run for the WH in 2012. This would put my bold, now some two month old, prediction that Perry will be the nominee in some doubt. (Although, I would still put Perry at the lead.) Apparently, he was nudged by Roger Ailes. I must say this is the most unpredictable primary season I can remember. I’m going to step out there and say he won’t run in the end.
So much for Chris Christie running for president:
Fitch downgrades New Jersey’s credit from AA to AA-
 
Newt Gingrich Keeps Quiet On Catholic Conversion 3/30/09
usnews.com/news/blogs/god-and-country/2009/03/30/gingrich-keeps-quiet-on-catholic-conversion

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich converted to Roman Catholicism over the weekend at St. Joseph’s Church in Washington, D.C. So far, Gingrich has been conspicuously quiet about his conversion. He didn’t mention it in an interview with me earlier this month that focused on his stepped-up efforts to organize religious conservatives and promote religious liberty issues.

An enthusiastic Twitterer, the former speaker has gone tweetless since Saturday. Best I can tell, Newt’s one recent mention of Catholicism was a tweet last Tuesday about President Obama’s forthcoming appearance at Notre Dame: “It is sad to see Notre Dame invite president obama to give the commencement address Since his policies are so anti catholic values.”

Exclusive: Newt Gingrich Opens Up On Catholic Conversion 5/20/09
usnews.com/news/blogs/god-and-country/2009/05/20/exclusive-newt-gingrich-opens-up-on-catholic-conversion-and-embracing-overt-christianity

Former House speaker and Republican überstrategist Newt Gingrich is off to Europe next week to shoot a documentary on Pope John Paul II’s 1979 trip to Poland and how it helped to lay the groundwork for bringing down the Soviet Union. The film, Nine Days That Changed the World, is slated for release this fall.

The trip will take Gingrich and his wife, Callista, to Poland and to Rome for the first time since he converted to Roman Catholicism in March.

I caught up with Gingrich this morning and asked if he expected this trip to be different from previous visits to Rome. He gave a long answer that had him opening up about the reasons for his conversion to an extent he hasn’t done publicly before:

“I don’t know that it’s much different. That’s part of what led to my conversion is the first time we [he and Callista] went to St. Peter’s together. It’s St. Peter’s. I mean, you stand there and you think, this is where St. Peter was crucified. This is where Paul preached. You think to yourself, two thousand years ago the apostles set out to create a worldwide movement by witnessing to the historic truth they had experienced. And there it is. The last time we were there we were allowed to walk in the papal gardens and you get this sense that is almost mystical.”

“The moment that finally convinced me [to convert] was when Benedict XVI came here [to the United States] and Callista in the church choir sang for him at the vespers service and all the bishops in the country were there. As a spouse, I got to sit in the upper church and I very briefly saw [Benedict] and I was just struck with how happy he was and how fundamentally different he was from the news media’s portrait of him. This guy’s not a Rottweiler. He’s a very loving, engaged, happy person.”

“I’d first seen Pope John Paul II when he came to the U.S. when Carter was president and I was a freshman congressman. And I [later] met him as Speaker.”

“The other sense is that the church has had two of its most powerful popes back to back, in their intellectual ability to engage the secular world on behalf of Christ. And the weight of all that, and going with [Callista] to church every Sunday to the Basilica [in Washington, D.C.], a magnificent church with a wonderful mass. In that sense I felt differently a long time ago, which is why I converted.”

“And part of me is inherently medieval. I resonate to Gothic churches and the sense of the cross in a way that is really pre-modern.”

Callista, who is Catholic and who was key to Gingrich’s conversion, added that it was “10 years in the making,” starting around the time Gingrich left the House in 1999. I asked Gingrich if his conversion had changed some fundamental political beliefs for him. He said it was the other way around—that political developments had made him more overtly Christian:

“The whole effort to create a ruthless, amoral, situational ethics culture has probably driven me toward a more overt Christianity. I’ll give you an example. As a college student at Emory when the Supreme Court ruled that school prayer was unconstitutional [in 1963] after 170 years of American history, I didn’t notice it. As a graduate student at Tulane I probably would have said it’s a good decision.”

“I’ve now had an additional 40 years to think about it. And I think about the world of my grandchildren. I don’t think American children are healthier, safer, and better off today than they were in 1963. So I have actually become more conservative in response to the failure of the liberal ethos to solve problems.”

I believe in second chances, (for pro-life conservatives 😉 ) and I believe Newt is the right man for the job at this time in our country’s history. But, for him to get the GOP nomination would probably be considered ‘miraculous’ if it did happen.

I think all of the candidates have their strengths and weaknesses. Gingrich’s strength is his focus on the problems of the country, and offering real solutions that could work. His weakness is of course his past mistakes. I don’t want to dwell on his personal life, but I think his conversion to Catholicism was genuine and not some political move that some have tried to accuse him of. I guess that just comes with the territory, though.
 
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