Yes, True.One that tells you they have the fullness and truth of the faith ?
So which one is it? because I’m pretty sure every denomination believes what you have stated here…that they contain the truth, yet have some major differences in their teachings on certain issues. There can only be one truth.
Right, not denominationally but more informaly, just as Catholics are denominationally unified but not always informaly.
I don’t think so. I do not believe that that the addition or subtraction of the filioque is disciplinary? And whether or not there is a limbo is a theological issue? And I don;t see how the nature of the purgatorial fire is disciplinary?LOL, Yeh OK.
The “Differences” you speak of are of discipline/traditons that in no way go against church teaching or dogma.
The Differences between Protestant denominations where curcial doctrines and are changed and denied is a completely different story.
Tom, the Catholic Church allows for differences in Theology among the Rites, as long it doesn’t undermine the Catholic understanding of the Deposit of Faith.Really? You think that the addition or subtraction of the filioque is disciplinary? And whether or not there is a limbo is not a theological issue? And I don;t see how the nature of the purgatorial fire is disciplinary?
It seems to me that whether or not for Protestants to have music in the church celebration is more a matter of discipline than those I have mentioned for Catholics. Protestants are united under Jesus Christ their Lord and Savior and with the Holy Scripture as their holy book.
In Protestant belief, AFAIK, it is Jesus Christ who is infallible and He is the one who is the Lord and Savior governing the Christian church.Hence why we have one Church founded by Christ, Governed on earth by The Pope who has the gift of infallibility (on faith and morals) to guide us…
Similarly with Protestants, AFAIK, that they allow for differences as long as it does not undermine the understanding that Jesus Christ is the Lord and Savior and Head of the Church. Just as with Catholics, these differences in belief will not necessarily correspond to an essentially different “denomination.”Tom, the Catholic Church allows for differences in Theology within the Rites, as long it doesn’t undermine the Catholic understanding of the Deposit of Faith.
Wrong again.Really? You think that the addition or subtraction of the filioque is disciplinary? And whether or not there is a limbo is not a theological issue? And I don;t see how the nature of the purgatorial fire is disciplinary?
It seems to me that whether or not for Protestants to have music in the church celebration is more a matter of discipline than those I have mentioned for Catholics. Protestants are united under Jesus Christ their Lord and Savior and with the Holy Scripture as their holy book.
Here:Where did I say the Filique was a discilpnary issue?.
One of the differences between Catholics is that some say the filioque in the creed, whereas others omit it.LOL, Yeh OK.
The “Differences” you speak of are of discipline/traditons that in no way go against church teaching or dogma. .
Are you serious?Similarly with Protestants, AFAIK, that they allow for differences as long as it does not undermine the understanding that Jesus Christ is the Lord and Savior and Head of the Church. Just as with Catholics, these differences in belief will not necessarily correspond to an essentially different “denomination.”
Yes.Are you serious?
But the belief is the same Tom.Here:
One of the differences between Catholics is that some say the filioque in the creed, whereas others omit it.
Agreed. So what is your point Tom? I (and most of us here) agree that theology alone isn’t a reason for different denominations. I’ve already said that a denomination comes down to the different, ultimate human authority - whether a person, council, synod, conference, etc.Similarly with Protestants, AFAIK, that they allow for differences as long as it does not undermine the understanding that Jesus Christ is the Lord and Savior and Head of the Church. Just as with Catholics, these differences in belief will not necessarily correspond to an essentially different “denomination.”
I continue to say that the arguments that there are 43000 different “denominations” is unconvincing. You might be able to convince Catholics of that, but I doubt that arguments contending that there are 43000 different denominations are going to convince too many other people. Protestants are united under the hierarchy and Lordship of One Savior. They may have differences, but their unity derives from belief in the One Lord and Savior of the world.But the belief is the same Tom.
Doesn;t matter how you say it as long it says the same thing in it’s message and doesn’t contradict church teaching which it never did.
That it does not make sense to assert that there are 43000 different Christian denominations.Agreed. So what is your point Tom?
Tom - how many denominations do you think there are? 5? 500? 5000?I continue to say that the arguments that there are 43000 different “denominations” is unconvincing. You might be able to convince Catholics of that, but I doubt that arguments contending that there are 43000 different denominations are going to convince too many other people. Protestants are united under the hierarchy and Lordship of One Savior. They may have differences, but their unity derives from belief in the One Lord and Savior of the world.
Catholics on the other hand disagree about limbo, does it exist or not? The Baltimore catechism said it did and it was published with ecclesiastical approval. But now some Catholics say no. Similarly, some Catholics will assert that the crowning ceremony at a wedding is an essential part of the rite, others will say not. Some Catholics favor capital punishment, others do not.
I have answered this question a couple of times already.Tom - how many denominations do you think there are? 5? 500? 5000?.
Sorry, but I failed to see itI have answered this question a couple of times already.
That is where your argument will be disputed, because these churches teach that they do not operate on human authority or on papal authority. They operate on the authority of the One Lord and Savior of the world, and on the authority of Holy Scripture.I believe there are at least as many denominations as there are “non-denominational” churches, as I believe each of them are their own denomination because they each have their own human authority. .
Actually the number converts I’ve spoken to who have come home to the Catholic Church from Protestantism have sighted the fact that they are so different in their teachings and their approach as a problem. They craved unity in Truth , which is what you get in the Catholic Church.I continue to say that the arguments that there are 43000 different “denominations” is unconvincing. You might be able to convince Catholics of that, but I doubt that arguments contending that there are 43000 different denominations are going to convince too many other people. Protestants are united under the hierarchy and Lordship of One Savior. They may have differences, but their unity derives from belief in the One Lord and Savior of the world.
Catholics on the other hand disagree about limbo, does it exist or not? The Baltimore catechism said it did and it was published with ecclesiastical approval. But now some Catholics say no. Similarly, some Catholics will assert that the crowning ceremony at a wedding is an essential part of the rite, others will say not. Some Catholics favor capital punishment, others do not.
Your question is ill-defined because you have not given us a definition of “denomination” that is agreed to by the parties concerned.Sorry, but I failed to see it
That is why Protestants put Jesus Christ as the Head of their Church.Our Lord said “I am the way, The Truth and the Life” he didn’t mention truth for no reason.