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BartBurk
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I came across this web site with a “Book of Mormon” tour. How convincing is it to you?
onecumorah.com/tour_01.php
onecumorah.com/tour_01.php
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ralphinal
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Beautiful country. Absolutely beautiful.
Does this not prove that JS was aware of these areas more than there being the things described in the BoM?
Also, even if the cities were all wooden and they burned and their ashes were scattered, would there not be other evidence of the cities? How large were these cities? How many people lived along these waterways?
Does this not prove that JS was aware of these areas more than there being the things described in the BoM?
Also, even if the cities were all wooden and they burned and their ashes were scattered, would there not be other evidence of the cities? How large were these cities? How many people lived along these waterways?
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BartBurk
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The “scholarly” LDS take is the Book of Mormon story took place in Central America. The people in the pews are more likely to believe it took place around the Great Lakes. I favor the Great Lakes setting simply because I believe Joseph made it all up and used reference points from his own experience.
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ckempston
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Amazing how someone can make claims without a shred of evidence, I mean NONE, and have thousands upon thousands of people believe it. At least the Bible is supported by Archaeological evidence and is attested to by contemporary authors. It’s amazing to me how we’re supposed to believe that these people were advanced enough to make a ship to cross the Atlantic, but didn’t leave behind any verifiable trace of their supposed civilization.
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ralphinal
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If I were writing a story, that land would be a good place to start. Beautiful scenes, water, nice weather part of the year. The fact that he was familiar with it, well, you know…
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Jerusha
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I respect the Great Lakers more than I respect the Mesoamericaaners. Geographically, it makes more sense. I would, however, shift it further East. After all, that is where Joseph was raised.
'Nuff said, for now. :coffeeread: Sometimes, I get a bit dense, 'ya know.
'Nuff said, for now. :coffeeread: Sometimes, I get a bit dense, 'ya know.
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teancum79
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Its hard to find what you are unwilling to open your eyes to.
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majick275
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exactly… so why won’t you see the truth? you are HERE for a reason…why is that?
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ricko
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Our eyes are open, to reason with faith. You have faith but you lack reason. The Mormon religion is based on faith alone with reason left on the wayside. The Mormons say that if you don’t believe then it’s because we don’t have faith. Are we to believe anything someone tells us without it being reasonable? And if we don’t believe then we are faulted for lacking faith. The followers of Jim Jones had faith and they are all dead. The followers of Heavens Gate had faith and they are all dead. The followers of Jim and Tammy Baker had faith and were dupped out of their money. Remember Waco? They believed in him with their faith and they are all dead. So we are to believe that great cities were built in America, housed millions of people with roads linking them. That the Jews came over here in a ship that could travel underwater making it the first submarine. That they had steel before it was invented, had honey bees before the Europeans brought them over. That the American Indian is what is left of these Jews, which the DNA does not support the claims of the Indians being desendents of the Jews. That these many great cities with millions of people disappeared leaving no evidence of any civilization other than the native Americans. No my friend, you keep your faith without reason and I will keep my faith that makes reason.
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Paul_G
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Apart from the name of some cities what archaeological artefacts are we talking about here in support of the Bible?
Ya Noah, how about it
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ckempston
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Many things in the Old Testament were thought to be mythical for a long time, but have since been confirmed by extra-biblical records. The Hittites were thought to be made up, as were David, Solomon. Other events would include numerous dealings with Babylon. Are you seriously contesting that the Bible has archaeological support, or are you just trolling?
Last time I checked, the descendents of Noah were the Israelites. I could be wrong.
The descendents of the Nephites are…oh, I forgot, there conveniently aren’t any.
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BartBurk
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You might want to start here:
christiananswers.net/archaeology/
You would think in all of the translations of texts from Mesoamerica there would be some Book of Mormon evidence, but there isn’t any.
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ckempston
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It’s quite convenient that nothing in Mormonism can be verified, right down to the non-existent language of “Reformed Egyptian.” And of course, the gold plates or whatever are locked up in some Mormon temple and no one can see them for some ridiculous reason (the real reason being they don’t exist).
The fact of the matter is if Mormonism were true, the leaders would be falling over themselves to have outside scholars confirm Joseph Smith’s claims. The fact that they do not speaks volumes.
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J_C
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no my understanding is the plates are not anywere on earth but were retrived by an angelic being after the translation was complete. Even the mormons don’t possess them.
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VWcrazy
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Convenient for the LDS, don’t ya think?
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ckempston
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Hmmmm…yes, how convenient.
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teancum79
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Because too many can’t tell the truth and a lie repeated often enough is assumed to be truth such as the “no evidence” bit. It is repeated often and loudly yet it is quite false and anyone with a decent internet connection can figure that out for themselves, but if they are convinced there is nothing to look for they often won’t look.
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ckempston
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Provide a single verifiable archaeological evidence that would support the claims of the Book of Mormon.
For the Bible, we can point to many. I wonder if there are any for the BoM?
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Paul_G
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Your comment mentioned archaeological evidence you have offered none. The fact is there is very little that can be used if any to scientifically prove the stories of the Bible, which is the burden you have placed on the Book of Mormon. I don’t know about you but I don’t need archaeological proof to believe the spiritual truths of the Bible, just as I don’t need archaeological proof to believe the spiritual truths found in the Book of Mormon
Last time I checked, the descendents of Noah were the Israelites. I could be wrong.
This is verifiable evidence?
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Paul_G
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This stuff in is no different than some LDS writer supporting bogus archaeological claims about the Book of Mormon. For every biblical archaeologist with a claim there is another with a different speculation, and they are all really just speculations and educated guesses about data swayed by personal bias and belief.
These pages do not offer artefacts that definitively support Biblical claims. As I said elsewhere I don’t need them to believe in the truths taught in the Bible, nor do I need them to believe the truths taught in the Book of Mormon.
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