A day after refusing to condemn white supremacists, Trump aims a xenophobic attack at Ilhan Omar

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andersr915 said:
Where has most of the outrage come from? The radical left.
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Really?

"Over nearly four years in office, Mr. Trump has frequently changed his positions on issues, issued conflicting statements and shuffled through a revolving cast of staff.

The one constant has been the president portraying himself as a victim at every turn.

Be it congressional Democrats or Republican foes like the late Senator John McCain, the news media or the standards enforcers at Twitter, the impeachment inquiry or, now, the debate commission, Mr. Trump has repeatedly blamed others for problems and self-inflicted wounds, something he hopes will appeal to a shared sense of grievance among his supporters."

 
Example of changing views/conflicting statements?

Nonetheless, all I can say about the bottom stuff is when a person is only given stones as opposed to bread, can you blame him for having broken teeth? When accusations are all that come towards him, what is he to do besides defend himself? I’m sorry but calling it “playing the victim” isn’t changing my mind.

Otherwise, even in the worst of situations, between a rude man who does good and denounces evil or a debatably nice man who endorses evil (abortion, antifa, BLM rioters, socialism, etc), who is the better option?
 
Apparently trump said some of this, but not all.

Regardless, I think I will become concerned about political name-calling toward Omar as soon as the level of it reaches 1/10,000 of what the left throws at Trump.
 
andersr915 said:
When accusations are all that come towards him, what is he to do besides defend himself?
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Making excuses for mistakes and refusing to apologize when wrong is not defending oneself.
" Even the personal troubles of Mr. Trump’s former campaign manager, Brad Parscale, whom the president has attacked in private for months and whom Mr. Trump demoted over the summer, became a vehicle for assigning blame. When Mr. Trump was told a few days ago that Mr. Parscale had been detained by the police for allegedly threatening to harm himself, the president ordered aides to write a statement blaming “Democrats” and “Republicans in name only” who had been critical of Mr. Parscale, according to two people familiar with what took place.

Claiming to be the victim of the political establishment has been key to Mr. Trump’s political persona since he entered the 2016 presidential race. And if he loses this time, he has spent months laying the groundwork for large swaths of voters to be receptive to his claim that it was wrongly taken from him."
Ridgerunner said:
Regardless, I think I will become concerned about political name-calling toward Omar as soon as the level of it reaches 1/10,000 of what the left throws at Trump.
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That’s the ‘tu quoque’ fallacy. The ‘left’ is not president and Trump’s ethnicity has not been irrelevantly maligned. See the difference?
 
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Tell me how you would solve the problem of generations of job discrimination. No, never mind. Let’s not go off on a tangent.
 
toabb said:
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7_Sorrows:
I have often wondered how she got elected myself.
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People voted for her.
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But why?

%$&+);=
 
Nepperhan said:
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Horton:
’d like to know what day Trump refused to condemn white supremacists?
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Can we stick to the subject here?
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The title of the thread states: **A day after refusing to condemn white supremacists, ** I’d like to know what day that was? Given it is part of the subject, it is on topic.
 
You didn’t answer my question

Regardless, now he was the victim since the beginning? I thought he was the oppressor who turned a victim? If he was the victim since the beginning, what does he have to apologize for?

As far as Brad Pascale goes, I’ll be blunt, I dont know much of the situation, and furthermore, I know less of what attacks may have been made in private, and it seems hazy to take someone’s word for it. All I know is this: if he is working as Trump’s campaign manager, what right does Trump lack to demote him if, according the article, Trump was unsatisfied with how campaign funds were handled. The “behind the door stuff” I would offer commentary on if I could trust it, referencing the bigger issue not being addressed is the destruction of credibility thanks to the leftist agenda.

So I’ll ask you this: are you on the side of Biden and what he supports, or has at least refused to denounce?

I can confidently say I support President Trump if only for the reason that he is the lesser of two evils and that, before being interrupted, he was willing to address and denounce groups he claims to be involved with. No, I dont see him as the thing that will fix the country altogether, but at least get it in a better direction. If you’re just going to keep trying to guilt trip me into voting Biden, it won’t work, because I am a Catholic. I dont support abortion, I dont support the Green New Deal, I dont support Antifa or BLM, I dont support Socialism, and I dont support this evil I’ve been seeing for years coming from leftist politcs because not only does it go against church teaching, but it goes against even atheistic senses of decency, where God is acknowledged and nobody is entitled to respect.

So if your intent is to guilt trip me into a vote for Biden, i respectfully ask that you please do not respond because you’re wasting my and everyone else’s time, but if your intention is otherwise, please answer my question, and a plausible answer is no, so long as it is the truth.

Thank you, and with all due sincerity, God be with you.
 
What I see is a pass given to anyone who is part of an ever-growing protected class. The labels of racist, misogynist, Islamophobe, homophobe, transphobe, etc. are used with impunity to deflect from substantial criticism.

From the clips I’ve watched, Trump wasn’t asking why they elected a naturalized citizen; he was asking how they could elect such an incompetent representative.
 
Oh, I agree with you Caj. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of another poster.
 
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(This is in regards to the poster above asking 'how did she get elected?" far up in the thread…)

People didn’t know her background at the time… she was elected when everyone thought they were being progressive by doing so (for a variety of reasons). As more and more truth comes out about who she is, that is when people in hindsight can say “HOW did she ever get elected?”
 
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CoffeeCatholic said:
People didn’t know her background at the time… she was elected when everyone thought they were being progressive by doing so (for a variety of reasons). As more and more truth comes out about who she is, that is when people in hindsight can say “HOW did she ever get elected?”
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That’s why she just won the primary and will be re-elected? She wasn’t any stealth candidate – you’re projecting your own views.
 
Nepperhan . . .
A day after refusing to condemn white supremacists . . . .
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After Charlottesville he did condemn white supremacists implicitly and again explicitly.
But the press just ignored those words,
and took him out of context
and later lied about it.

Why set yourself up for that again?
 
Cathoholic said:
Would you say President Trump deserves respect too Nepperhan?
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This thread is on Trump’s actions. It goes without saying that he deserves respect. He also deserves a long and healthy retirement in January.
 
Nepperhan said:
No one deserves criticism based on their ethnicity. That’s a good definition of racism.
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Well said. We can now dispense with the accusation of “white privilege”, “inherent racism”, “institutional racism”.

Omar should not be criticized for her ethnic background. She should be criticized for her anti-Semitic comments and her anti-Israeli stance.
 
JonNC said:
We can now dispense with the accusation of “white privilege”, “inherent racism”, “institutional racism”.
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As you stated in regard to Omar, those are criticisms as to acts, not status. So they can stay.
 
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