A Muslim woman was attacked and beaten by two men in Toronto

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What a sick crime! People, we need to stop judging innocent people and accusing them of things that they did not do. I can’t believe Islamophobia has taken over the minds of our people. Shame on the people who beat her and those who support them! We are much better than that!
Stereotype threat only causes the worse things to happen in society. I’m so sick and so angry at the lack of social justice in the world.
 
Satan is a master at causing disorder. Let us all pray that righteous anger at brutality at the hands of Islamists may not translate into retaliatory attacks on innocent people, and let us also pray for the conversion of all who perpetrate senseless violence.
 
And millions of Muslim women got beaten by their husbands yesterday.
 
And millions of Muslim women got beaten by their husbands yesterday.
Your comment reveals your ignorance. Are you trying to justify what those men did?! SHAME ON YOU! Your comment is so irrelevant to the situation. You enrage me! Those men had NO RIGHT to beat an innocent woman up! All you’re doing is blaming the victim.
 
Your comment reveals your ignorance. Are you trying to justify what those men did?! SHAME ON YOU! Your comment is so irrelevant to the situation. You enrage me! Those men had NO RIGHT to beat an innocent woman up! All you’re doing is blaming the victim.
Well, no actually. What you are doing is using “blaming the victim” as an excuse for not legitimizing his (her?) point that beating women is commonly done in Islamic cultures and by ISIS to Christian women.

If one woman being beaten in Toronto is a cause for outrage, then your outrage should be exponentially thousands (or million) times greater for those thousands and (perhaps) millions of women who are beaten every day.

Why not acknowledge his (her?) point and move forward rather than use it to bludgeon him (her?) with?
 
Two wrongs does not make it right.
Your math is way off. It wouldn’t be “Two” wrongs because millions+1 do not equal 2.

I think you ought to think about his point rather than reply with trite statements.

Is your moral “outage” being properly apportioned?
 
I completely agree. It also sickens me and saddens me to the core, whats more is that I’m incredibly frustrated because I know these things are not over and I will try and explain below.
People, we need to stop judging innocent people and accusing them of things that they did not do.
I completely agree.
I can’t believe Islamophobia has taken over the minds of our people.
Why can’t you believe it? I’m not surprised and I am incredibly frustrated because I know these things will happen because of how people are handling it.

There are so many stupid things being done in regards to ISIS and the refugee crisis. Nobody is listening to each other. The biggest problem is the amount of people pretending that it doesn’t matter what anyone believes and we can all hold hands and sing kumbaya together. :confused:

It’s almost nonsensical to open the floodgate on refuges right after a recent terrorist attack. When a plane goes down, you find the fault and assure the people that such a fault has been rectified before you send another up in the air.

This problem I believe is twofold, I fear those who would seek to shut their doors and not accept anyone, and I fear those who would seek to open their doors and allow anyone and everyone in.

There are many people who don’t know much about Islam, including myself, There are some very troubling aspects concerning the life of Muhammad who they revere as the greatest prophet. The real concerns that are being raised are ignored and swept under the rug, or worse; addressed with meaningless euphemism that don’t answer the question at all. Anyway, I could go on for ages about the many stupid things that are being said and done and the many things that are not being talked about that need to be talked about.

I’ll leave it with I don’t think this is over, and I pray and hope no more innocent refuges will be hurt, especially in our own countries, but I am frustrated, because if things continue how they are, I believe it will happen again.

If people on either side will not LISTEN to one another and address each others concerns seriously, than another thing like this is inevitable.

I believe multiculturalism only works on the mirco scale but not on the macro scale. Furthermore, Frances policy is not one we should be trying to emulate, I have heard that they have ‘no go’ zones in France.

When a Plane goes down, we need leaders saying “I understand your concerns and I have them also, we have grounded flights until we find the problem and rectify it, we would like to also reassure you that the flights taking place at the moment are not prone to the problems that caused the previous plane crash due to X, Y and Z, but we will be extra careful with those too, your safety is our number one priority.”

Not “You simply have plane-phobia, your more likely to die in a car crash than a plane crash, now stop worrying and get on the plane with us.”
Shame on the people who beat her and those who support them! We are much better than that!
I agree.
Stereotype threat only causes the worse things to happen in society. I’m so sick and so angry at the lack of social justice in the world.
Yes, stereotyping is bad. This is going to get worse if people keep sweeping the real issues and concerns under the rug. Religion does matter. If Muhammad consummated a marriage with Aisha at age 9, than I believe it should be made clear that such is recognized as pedophilia today and will not be allowed to be emulated. Slavery, Polygamy also.

There are some serious concerns and they are not being addressed and if it keeps going like this, than such instances are bound to happen again.

Anyway, these are just some of my thoughts.

Thank you for reading
Josh
 
Well, no actually. What you are doing is using “blaming the victim” as an excuse for not legitimizing his (her?) point that beating women is commonly done in Islamic cultures and by ISIS to Christian women.

If one woman being beaten in Toronto is a cause for outrage, then your outrage should be exponentially thousands (or million) times greater for those thousands and (perhaps) millions of women who are beaten every day.

Why not acknowledge his (her?) point and move forward rather than use it to bludgeon him (her?) with?
No duh! I am a feminist and no man has the right to lay his hand on a woman! I hate sexism, and I’m mad that this is a world issue. It’s not common in only Islamic cultures…It’s common in American, Mexican, Asian, Indian, and many other cultures! His comment seemed to support the action of those men and that’s why I acted out.
 
Well, no actually. What you are doing is using “blaming the victim” as an excuse for not legitimizing his (her?) point that beating women is commonly done in Islamic cultures and by ISIS to Christian women.

If one woman being beaten in Toronto is a cause for outrage, then your outrage should be exponentially thousands (or million) times greater for those thousands and (perhaps) millions of women who are beaten every day.

Why not acknowledge his (her?) point and move forward rather than use it to bludgeon him (her?) with?
For your point to have ANY legitimacy you would have written in terms of women in general rather than Muslim women
 
For your point to have ANY legitimacy you would have written in terms of women in general rather than Muslim women
Why does it HAVE to be? I can acknowledge that it is a problem for women in general and can acknowledge that it is an even greater problem for Moslem women and Christian women in Moslem countries without negating the first.

I have no need to go all “ideological” or “politically correct.” The facts are the facts. Why would I need to stress an ideological point just to gain legitimacy with those who are bound to some ideology or other?

Sorry, not taking your bait.
 
Why does it HAVE to be? I can acknowledge that it is a problem for women in general and can acknowledge that it is an even greater problem for Moslem women and Christian women in Moslem countries without negating the first.

I have no need to go all “ideological” or “politically correct.” The facts are the facts. Why would I need to stress an ideological point just to gain legitimacy with those who are bound to some ideology or other?

Sorry, not taking your bait.
Sadly I remember other people who believed stuff like this only in those days it too the form of saying The Irish did it. History has drawn its own conclusion about that factuousness too
 
So surprising this would happen in Toronto, which is considered so healthily diverse and prides itself on being a friendly mosaic of cultures that get along with each other.
And that neighborhood where the assault happened is usually know to be very safe, as I recall.
Yes, “prides itself” is the operative phrase. France also “prides itself” in its willingness to be a “friendly mosaic of cultures.”

The only question, yet to be answered, is whether members of those cultures want to live in a “friendly mosaic.”

Canada was, in the past, built as a “friendly mosaic” largely because people came from cultures that fundamentally shared the same views of freedom, work, honesty, trust and the common good.

Today, however, the cultures we are attempting to force into the “friendly mosaic” are not on the same page with reference to those values. In fact, they aren’t even in the same book, which could be a little monkey wrench in your idyllic vision for Toronto, Canada and the world.
 
Sadly I remember other people who believed stuff like this only in those days it too the form of saying The Irish did it. History has drawn its own conclusion about that factuousness too
It isn’t a question of “did it too,” it is a question of how and why it is done. Only someone who looks superficially at a problem would only be concerned about who else is doing it rather than how and why the people who are actually doing it are ACTUALLY doing it.

Ironically, a Moslem woman who just blew herself up in Paris has been identified as a conspirator in the Paris attacks.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3323196/Shooting-breaks-Paris-suburb-anti-terrorist-operation.html#ixzz3rq8b6jF7

How many women of other faiths can you point to, say, for example, Christians, in all of history, who have turned themselves into living bombs – as opposed to bombshells – for the sake of their beliefs or faith? I can think of a few other Moslem women in the past year or so who have. Perhaps some “Irish did it,” but I can’t recall any.
 
It isn’t a question of “did it too,” it is a question of how and why it is done. Only someone who looks superficially at a problem would only be concerned about who else is doing it rather than how and why the people who are actually doing it are ACTUALLY doing it.

Ironically, a Moslem woman who just blew herself up in Paris has been identified as a conspirator in the Paris attacks.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3323196/Shooting-breaks-Paris-suburb-anti-terrorist-operation.html#ixzz3rq8b6jF7

How many women of other faiths can you point to, say, for example, Christians, in all of history, who have turned themselves into living bombs – as opposed to bombshells – for the sake of their beliefs or faith? I can think of a few other Moslem women in the past year or so who have. Perhaps some “Irish did it,” but I can’t recall any.
You have a short memory. I take it you aren’t in Ireland lol
 
Let’s expand your memory back into time, then, shall we?

So that you re-cognize the source of Islamic teachings, Muhammad, himself.

content.blubrry.com/taylormarshall/TMShow_98_Muhammad.mp3
I do get it. You don’t like Islam. You don’t like Sunni, Shia, Sufi none of it. You have here characterised them as wife beaters (which undoubtedly they are but so are all races and creeds) currently they are top of the terrorist list but I remember when Catholics were and that was an incorrect sweeping generalisation too. Most of the money to buy explosives and weapons for the IRA was collected in America presumably some of the good Catholics who donated are bemoaning the rise of global terrorism now. Oh the duplicity
 
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