I would note that my post never advocated for electing a woman pope for the reason of achieving a “first”. In fact, I clearly stated in my first post that I disagreed with the idea that a woman would be superior because of something inherent in womanhood. I criticized the NYT article for this position.
men and women have different roles. e.g., men can’t have children. is that “unfair”? of course not.
I don’t know if “recruiting” is the accurate word to describe the church’s role. The church encourages all its members, both male and female, to discern their vocation, be it religious, single or married. God has a plan for all of us and we need to listen carefully to His direction.
Yes, men cannot have kids, this is a biological limitation. However, we do know that women can be successful leaders- so I do not understand your example. What is to stop someone from using that example to differentiate between the “races” (a meaningless word in my mind)? i.e. arguments were often made that white men are inherently superior to a certain race and that is why they should rule over this race and try to civilize it. Our biological difference from women does not stop women from being leaders, just as our biological differences between races (i.e. melanin in skin) has nothing to do with whether members of a certain race can be leaders.
Go to the home page of catholic.com and run “women priests” or “in persona christi male priests” in the search window to search this website. You could also start with catholic.com/thisrock/1996/9601fea3.asp. Whether you accept these explanations is your choice.
Who are you? What are you? Declare yourself!
Christ chose men to be hs disciples, not women.
Is that how you see it, Mo? Don’t hide behind the passive voice. You aren’t one of those rock wielding hypocrits in last weeks gospel, are you Mo? Drop the rocks…it’ll do you a world of good.
My gosh, you just don’t get it! No one anywhere is saying anyone is superior, those are your words and thoughts. You believe that because Women can not be ordained in the church that the church is a run by a bunch of sexist males that don’t want to give up their control. Women can make great leaders but that is not the point. The point is that the church does not have the authourity to ordain women. Christ has given the church it’s authority, But no where in history did Christ show or teach that Women can be ordained. If this was possible, Christ had some very Holy and worthy women he could have made priests but for some reason he chose not too. The tired argument that it was the male dominated society they lived in determined that is also bogus. Jesus was/is God, He makes the rules. Plenty of the rules & regs that were laid down were thrown out. If Christ wanted to ordain females he would have. In his wisdom he knows that men & women play diferent roles in society there is nothing wrong with this and it certainly does not mean that men are superior to women… ahhh!
St. Paul says that women should be silent in Church and that they should wear headcovering. Now that rule has changed from what is was for hundreds of years before Vatican II. If they have changed that rule, then why can they not change the rule on women priests?My gosh, you just don’t get it! No one anywhere is saying anyone is superior, those are your words and thoughts. You believe that because Women can not be ordained in the church that the church is a run by a bunch of sexist males that don’t want to give up their control. Women can make great leaders but that is not the point. The point is that the church does not have the authourity to ordain women. Christ has given the church it’s authority, But no where in history did Christ show or teach that Women can be ordained. If this was possible, Christ had some very Holy and worthy women he could have made priests but for some reason he chose not too. The tired argument that it was the male dominated society they lived in determined that is also bogus. Jesus was/is God, He makes the rules. Plenty of the rules & regs that were laid down were thrown out. If Christ wanted to ordain females he would have. In his wisdom he knows that men & women play diferent roles in society there is nothing wrong with this and it certainly does not mean that men are superior to women… ahhh!
Peace!
because if we wanted to be episcopalians, we’d join the episcopal church. we prefer being catholics.
But the Catholic Church has changed the rule on whether women should wear headcovering in Church and whether women are required to be silent in Church. These rules have been changed in the CATHOLIC CHUIRCH. So if these rules have been changed in the CATHOLIC CHURCH then why cannot they also change the rule on women priests?
The Catholic Church believes that women are not proper matter (I think that’s the correct theological term) to act in personae Christi while administering the sacraments. Just as you can’t use some other beverage to stand in for wine while celebrating the Eucharist. So it’s not within the Church’s power to change the rule on this – it’s intrinsic to the way God made men and women.