There are some out there that do make it out of the Way. Like the lady below. But it is not easy – for they have to break out of the NCW mentality – and the majority are not able to do that for they have been led to believe it is evil or such to leave. Leaving the NCW for the mainstream Church is not acceptable to the NCW.
The NCW idea of “mainstreaming” is basically taking over a parish. This we can also see by what happened in Japan. There they were taking over the diocese right from under the bishops.
The question was directed at someone who has experienced the Way. I believe, WH, you don’t fulfill those credentials. Respectfully, I’m starting to realize what you know about the NCW is very limited and biased. I don’t know how many times I’ve presented to you the fruits of the Way, yet you choose to ignore it. In response to the lady whose parish was “taken over,” I don’t think she knew much either, as she called priests formed at Redemptoris Mater seminary from an “order” which is not true, they are international missionary priests, who can be sent anywhere or anytime by the bishop.
The Japanese bishops actually visited the pope more often than usual. To make a long story short,
he took the Redemptoris Mater Seminaries in their dioceses and made them Pontifical Seminaries.
The people in that parish that was “taken over” had to come from somewhere. The parish possibly? How many of those people were already parishoners?
In response to the first story, my mother is in the way. She goes to “regular” Mass every morning, yet still prays from the Liturgy of the Hours.
What is the beauty of a community? 30 people, all walking towards Christ. This is how the early Christians worshipped, in small communities. The brothers and sisters and the community have
always been there for me. Last year when my brother died, more people from the community came to the funeral than family and friends. We would have been alone without them. They also act as lights, for when the Devil whispers in my ear “you are s***, God loves you not in your sin” I always have someone from the community to reinforce my faith.
In a parish with a weekly Mass attendance in the thousands, how can you be a close brother with the person in pew 4 while you are in pew 34? Seeing others grow in faith allows me to open my heart more to the Lord.
Benedictgal, I always have respect for you, because you always see both sides. WH, I really hope you can see the good instead of making the worst, not to mention largely unsubstantiated claims relating this charism to the Arian Heresy.
I was thinking, maybe the heresies back then happened under the nose of the pope back then because communication was very slow. Today, we have phones, the internet, planes, etc. People and info moves faster than 300 AD.
), eucharistic ministers, lectors, etc etc. However, a good number of these people were away from the Church prior to the catechesis. One priest in my parents community is actually a vicar at the basilica. Priests from RM seminaries are sent where ever the bishop needs them.