Abortion Doctor Geroge Tiller Murdered this morning

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Kansas-based late-term abortion practitioner George Tiller faces a week-long hearing next week related to the criminal charges filed against him by the state attorney general. Tiller was slapped with 19 criminal charges for failing to follow state law requiring a second opinion on the abortions.
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In the abortions, Tiller should have followed state law requiring a concurring signature from a second physician who is not legally or financially affiliated with him.
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Instead, Tiller used an affiliated associate, abortion practitioner Ann Kristin Neuhaus, with whom he has a financial working relationship.
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The second physician is supposed to validate whether the mother will face “substantial and irreversible” harm to “a major bodily function” without the abortion – the lone times when a late-term abortion can be done legally.
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This was a multi-million dollar business with a lot of shady activity. The rest of the article from Nov. 2008 is here:

lifenews.com/state3633.html
 
pnewton said:
Just war and the death penalty are always actions taken by legitimate authority. It is to legal authority that obligation to protect the innocent falls. Consider how many denominations have split over their own interpretation of the Bible. We cannot allow every man to interpret justice for themselves, even in cases like this.
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I just wonder…is there anything that would ever make a “legitimate authority” illegitimate? And, by the way…who determines that an “authority” is legitimate in the first place?

Inquiring (but befuddled) minds want to know…🤷

Melvin
 
Holy God have mercy on him and on us. Violence begets violence. His will be done. Garland
 
jonobr said:
Hello

Please be patient with me while I ask this question and forgive my ignorance…

I believe the death of Tiller in this way is a tragedy.
I think we should pray for him , his family and all the lives, born and unborn he has affected.
Murder is murder and this action will do nothing more then set back the pro-life movement.

However, I have thought long and hard about this and there is something which I am hoping you can help me with.

Again, please remember what I mentioned above.

If I see someone about to kill a child or children and taking the other persons life is the only way to stop this from happening. According to the law, I would be justified.
Am I committing a mortal sin?

If what I do is justifiable, is it different when you have this state allowed form of killing and I stop the provider (Tiller) from doing this.

I know in my heart murdering Tiller is wrong, but Im trying to understand if there would be any similarity to me defending the life of the born?

Please help my mis-understanding
Lord I believe- help my unbelief…

Thanks
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Even if 2 wrongs do not make a right…

Many people felt a feeling of relief, for instance-when Hitler killed himself, due in part to the blood of the holocaust of 11 million on his hands.

There is a sense of relief for some.

The holocaust of 6 million Jews and 5 million others----was over.

You are not alone.

In all things, God is in control.
"His ways are so far above our ways-as the Heavens are above the earth."
-Father John Corapi

+Peace Be With You.
-Dawn
 
TracyJ said:
Sometimes anti choice speech
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Pro-abortion speech is anti-choice speech. The father has no choice, the baby has no choice, the taxpayer has no choice, the grandparents have no choice…anyone who wants to save the baby’s life has no choice…
a few here think that it okay because an abortionist
was the victim, but most are saddened.
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Personally, I am saddened by his death - every murder is saddening. I don’t like what he did in his life, but I’m not going to play Westboro here.
 
DeoSalvatoreMeo said:
I was just looking at another cached link from Tiller’s pulled website. It says 32% of the abortions he performed between January 1989 to May 2002 were to women who self-identified as “Catholic”.

74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:wfaS_ayW3p0J:www.drtiller.com/fasum.html+site:drtiller.com+tiller+late+abortion&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
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Surprised?

As I stand and pray on God’s side of the iron fence at our local Planned Parenthood, I see Rosaries hanging from rearview mirrors all the time.

I’m not surprised.

The discussions here at CAF during the past election was nauseating->about half who called themselves “Catholic” refuse the teachings of the Magisterium, and voted their “feelings.” Even with the Bishops’ directives, they still turned away.

The writing is on the wall for us. I believe this is a last ditch effort for us to snap to, and wake from our slumber-in our Country. Just how much more will God allow before He brings us back unto Himself? After all, he is our Loving Father—and we are His wayward children.

"Pray! Like your life depends on it. Because it does!"
-Father John Corapi
+Peace In Christ.
-Dawn
 
miamiherald.com/news/nation/AP/story/1074783.html

Abortion foes fear backlash to Tiller’s murder

…Kim Gandy, president of the National Organization for Women……She and other activists urged that Monday be observed as a national day of mourning for Tiller, as well as a day of commitment to the cause of abortion rights.
 
DawnInTexas said:
Surprised?

As I stand and pray on God’s side of the iron fence at our local Planned Parenthood, I see Rosaries hanging from rearview mirrors all the time.

I’m not surprised.

The discussions here at CAF during the past election was nauseating->about half who called themselves “Catholic” refuse the teachings of the Magisterium, and voted their “feelings.” Even with the Bishops’ directives, they still turned away.

The writing is on the wall for us. I believe this is a last ditch effort for us to snap to, and wake from our slumber-in our Country. Just how much more will God allow before He brings us back unto Himself? After all, he is our Loving Father—and we are His wayward children.

"Pray! Like your life depends on it. Because it does!"
-Father John Corapi
+Peace In Christ.
-Dawn
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Judge not… people weren’t basing their stuff on feeling or blindly following a few so we could watch more babies die. Many votes were based upon FACTS that the number of abortions had flatlined in our nation and were beginning to increase. Millions of LIVING children are sick and malnourished, millions of mothers do not have health care to take care of the babies they want… The juggerknot that was the last administration may have called itself pro-life to get votes but unlike some others, actions speak louder than words for me.

Believe what you want, you obviously will but to me you can’t be Pro-Life and pro-death penality, not care of the health of the living (both children and adults), poverty nor the ability of women to take care of the children they are blessed with (intentional or not).

THAT is the problem in this Nation - this IS NO PRO-LIFE party. One promotes pro-choice and the other promotes pro-death at every other turn of clock…

Our administration isn’t looking to demonize Pro-Life groups, but they are looking to stop people from murdering people. We can’t let this stuff happen or continue or it will be the end of the movement.

The administration has been in contract many times this year with the USCCB and I believe is working on a balance. Until we get goobers like are quoted in those articles saying that Jesus said life beings at conception we will NEVER EVER EVER WIN.

First of all, Jesus didn’t say that.

MORE importantly it drops abortion to a Religious argument. We MUST state - “Dr. X’s research shows life begins at conception and we are fighting to help more people realize this because while our religious convection tell is this is true, we understand that to chance the view of our nation we must work with in the defined context.”

Or we work to use the words from Tiller’s previous websites against them… “viability” that’s IS life… you can’t argue against that unless you let someone digress the argument.

Abortion is not a religious argument but as long as we get people on TV stating that all the time, that is all it will ever be and close to half the Nation will just ignore the issue.

Sad but true…

Joe
 
WASHINGTON, D.C., June 1, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) — Speaking on behalf of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, Cardinal Justin Rigali of Philadelphia, chairman of the bishops’ Committee on Pro-Life Activities, expressed profound regret upon learning of the shooting death of abortion doctor George Tiller.

“Our bishops’ conference and all its members have repeatedly and publicly denounced all forms of violence in our society, including abortion as well as the misguided resort to violence by anyone opposed to abortion,” Cardinal Rigali said. “Such killing is the opposite of everything we stand for, and everything we want our culture to stand for: respect for the life of each and every human being from its beginning to its natural end. We pray for Dr. Tiller and his family.”

Full article…
 
May God have Mercy on these 32% of Catholic women who have had the abortions. And May Our Loving & Merciful God forgive His Church for not doing a better job teaching the faithful that abortion is a henious sin.
In Jesus Name I Pray,
Agatina
 
Diamantina said:
Dear Siamesecat,

Fetuses who will die shortly after birth should be allowed to be born (prematurely if need be), given palliative care, baptized if they are from Christian families and let the rest happen according to what God wills. I realize that the situation of a fetus who is suffering from cancer is horrific. However, because I am a pro-life Catholic, if I were the mother of that fetus, I would have asked my obstetrician to induce early labor and childbirth, give the child palliative care and pain medication, ask my parish priest to baptize the child ASAP and let events rest in the hands of God.

I will say a prayer for the repose of Dr. Tiller’s soul and the consolation of his family, and another prayer for Dr. Tiller’s assassin.
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Thanks for making this clear and prayerful post. May God heal this tragic situation and may Mary shelter the authentic Pro-life movement with her mantle.

St. Michael protect us from the snares of the Devil.
 
I’ll mourn for Tiller for one day when 365 days of the year are set aside for those who have been murdered by the sinful act of abortion.
 
hosemonkey said:
At the risk of being very non-PC, (and not only to be called un-Christian) there are some people in this sad old world that just need killing. There are those who have placed themselves so far away from the pale of human decency, that they just need to be removed from the company of decent people. They have given up their right to be members of this (always flawed) human race. You have every right to disagree with what I say, but you know that it is true. We certainly had no qualms about ridding the world of some of these types after WWII, nor of sending Saddam Hussein to eternity. We just took a little longer to observe the legal niceties. The mods are probably going to hammer me for this, but I think that it needs to be said.
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I’m sure the people in his Reformed Lutheran Chruch think of themselves as decent. How do they accept someone who has admitted to 60,000 abortions? How did they accept his money? Fifty years ago, an abortionist was some shadowy character or, if known in the community, was shunned. Today, the abortionist is church usher and his wife sings in the choir.
 
aicirt said:
I’m sure the people in his Reformed Lutheran Chruch think of themselves as decent. How do they accept someone who has admitted to 60,000 abortions? How did they accept his money? Fifty years ago, an abortionist was some shadowy character or, if known in the community, was shunned. Today, the abortionist is church usher and his wife sings in the choir.
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How do they accept someone like that?

The dictatorship of relativism.
 
DawnInTexas said:
Surprised?

As I stand and pray on God’s side of the iron fence at our local Planned Parenthood, I see Rosaries hanging from rearview mirrors all the time.

I’m not surprised.

The discussions here at CAF during the past election was nauseating->about half who called themselves “Catholic” refuse the teachings of the Magisterium, and voted their “feelings.” Even with the Bishops’ directives, they still turned away.

The writing is on the wall for us. I believe this is a last ditch effort for us to snap to, and wake from our slumber-in our Country. Just how much more will God allow before He brings us back unto Himself? After all, he is our Loving Father—and we are His wayward children.

"Pray! Like your life depends on it. Because it does!"
-Father John Corapi
+Peace In Christ.
-Dawn
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The time is ripe Dawn, for a chastisement like the world has never seen nor will see again.

A lot of us feel very angry for the annihalation of so many innocent. I know I myself can get half crazy when I think of it, and yes, in my own limited human way, I feel some relief…however, two wrongs do not make a right. The people who murder abortionists are “playing God” right along with them. No one wants to obey God’s laws anymore in this country. ***They ***want to “play God”.

How do any of us KNOW that in due time, George Tiller might have had a total conversion of heart?..and just might have been the greatest pro life advocate the world has ever seen? Grave sin will affect all of us, I am afraid, it always does. And this one will affect us all too soon unfortunately. We will see some of the negative impact immediately. This has beyond a doubt set back the pro life movement a huge notch.

I’m afraid NOTHING about the murder of George Tiller has an upside.
I will pray for his soul and for the man who murdered him. One cannot help but wonder where George Tiller is now??:eek: In our limited knowlege, it doesn’t look good, but only God knows his heart. It looks like his life was cut short at the wrong time and he could have had many more years to convert.

Yep, pray that your life depends on it, because it does!!!
 
aicirt said:
I’m sure the people in his Reformed Lutheran Chruch think of themselves as decent. How do they accept someone who has admitted to 60,000 abortions? How did they accept his money? Fifty years ago, an abortionist was some shadowy character or, if known in the community, was shunned. Today, the abortionist is church usher and his wife sings in the choir.
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The statement is signed by The Rev. Lowell Michelson and The Rev. Kristin Neitzel.

Reformation Lutheran Church

The Reformation Lutheran Church family is shocked and deeply saddened by the violent murder of Dr. George Tiller, a longtime member of our congregation, that occurred in our church home May 31.

Our congregation strives to be a safe place for all people. We deplore the violence that took place within the walls of our church. Further, we reject any notion that violence against another human being is an acceptable way to resolve differences over any issue. We must always strive to engage in peaceful discussion. Our faith calls us to this. Our humanity demands it.

In the wake of this tragic event, our deepest concern is for the family of George Tiller. We ask the community to join us in prayer for them as they face the difficult days ahead. Our hearts ache with them. We also ask that the family’s privacy be respected.

Members of Reformation Lutheran Church have been deeply affected by this tragedy. To address their needs, we are assembling a team of crisis intervention specialists.
In this time of uncertainty, we stand firm in the promises of Jesus Christ: forgiveness, hope, love, and new life, even from death. We pray for healing and peace to be restored. We offer our thanks for the many prayers of support from across the country. Your words of encouragement are a blessing to the people of Reformation Lutheran Church and Wichita.

The Rev. Lowell Michelson, The Rev. Kristin Neitzel

kansas.com/news/tiller/story/835020.html
 
Teelynn said:
I’m afraid NOTHING about the murder of George Tiller has an upside.
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Well, there is one less late-term abortion doctor in the country. I’m not trying to be unkind, it’s just that that is “something”… Not that it makes it right! (Always have to include that disclaimer).
 
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