Abortion Doctor Geroge Tiller Murdered this morning

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WICHITA, Kan. – Dr. George Tiller, one of the nation’s few providers of late-term abortions despite decades of protests and attacks, was shot and killed Sunday in a church where he was serving as an usher.

The gunman fled, but a 51-year-old suspect was detained some 170 miles away in suburban Kansas City three hours after the shooting, Wichita Deputy Police Chief Tom Stolz said.

Although Stolz refused to release the man’s name, Johnson County sheriff’s spokesman Tom Erickson identified the detained man as Scott Roeder. He has not been charged in the slaying and was expected to be taken to Wichita for questioning.
Police did not release a motive for the shooting. But the doctor’s violent death was the latest in a string of shootings and bombings over two decades directed against abortion clinics, doctors and staff.

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Justice has been served. Yep, I said it. I don’t care if it hurts the pro-life movement, it doesn’t seem that our efforts affect a darn thing. Case in point, the percentage of Catholics who voted for Obama.
I would give up a hundred freedoms to save souls from the terrible deaths this man had brought to no doubt countless innocents. Besides, maybe we will win some converts through all the reports of the type of abortions he administered.
God have mercy on his soul.
 
Mommomamats said:
Justice has been served. Yep, I said it. I don’t care if it hurts the pro-life movement, it doesn’t seem that our efforts affect a darn thing. Case in point, the percentage of Catholics who voted for Obama.
I would give up a hundred freedoms to save souls from the terrible deaths this man had brought to no doubt countless innocents. Besides, maybe we will win some converts through all the reports of the type of abortions he administered.
God have mercy on his soul.
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I believe another poster mentioned that sometimes God lets bad things happen for a reason. PLus this occured at a church, not his home or clinic. Does make you wonder.
 
Angels Unaware:
Fosio,
Anybody who does not recognize that taking a scalpel to a living creature with human DNA, brainwaves, and a heart beat and tearing it limb from limb so that a woman can rid herself of the responsibility of either caring for her child or allowing an adoptive family to care for that child is willfully blind and bordering on being mentally incompetent.

ABORTION IS MURDER
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Judging by their post count, they just came on here to stereotype people in this thread.

Most people were not “justifying” anything of this act, as has been the understood and pretty- clear cut thinking. These trolling for reactions, or to gloat, are acting as if this is the first time this ever happened, where some nut.

I wouldn’t be surprised if these were plants by crazy pro-abortion extremists.
I would say the people who are more prone to extremism are the side that sees no problem with killing babies…than the other way around. :rolleyes:

Anyway, I’m not worried about the pro-life movement, as long as we pray about the things we can’t control, which are the actions of those seeking to politicize these occurrences.

The very fact that this issue would be exploited to politically smear a segment of people for their political beliefs reaps a great consequence on those exploiting the issue.
Just implore God’s protection with prayer, and it’ll the exploitation of this evil act, and tragedy for the abortion doctors loved one will be turned on its head.

I do not like people gloating in this thread, as if we pro-lifers have any connection to the murderer of the abortion dude. That’s the real “guilt by remote association” card.

I hope the people who are being disingenuous in their outrage will be shamed.
 
wabrams said:
Problem with that comparison is this guy didn’t bomb Tiller’s church or place of business, he went striaght to the source.
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Unfortunatly, in the end, it dosn’t matter if it was a clinic that was bombed or an individual, both are acts of violence that don’t give the pro-life cause a good name. There are going to be pro-choice people out there who are going to continue to think of the pro-life cause as violence and not the defense of human life when people like this nut case decide to take the law into their own hands.
 
wabrams said:
Problem with that comparison is this guy didn’t bomb Tiller’s church or place of business, he went striaght to the source.
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Yeah. While I don’t condemn his murder, I don’t think “terrorism” is a correct term. Terrorists target innocent victims in public places. McVeigh, for example, didn’t have an issue with the actions of any individuals at the federal building he bombed. The 9/11 terrorists didn’t know or have any issues with individuals at their targets.

This is just out-and-out murder/assasasination ala vigilante justice.
 
some months back a couple blocks from here an old man shot 3 young black men in his neighbors yard. they were actively robbing the place. they came at him so they got killed. tiller reminds me of this. in both cases the dead men put themselves in the situation to get killed. i am 100% sure tiller would not have been shot dead today if he had not devoted his life to murder- he reaped what he had sown.
 
aggiecatholic05 said:
some months back a couple blocks from here an old man shot 3 young black men in his neighbors yard. they were actively robbing the place. they came at him so they got killed. tiller reminds me of this. in both cases the dead men put themselves in the situation to get killed. i am 100% sure tiller would not have been shot dead today if he had not devoted his life to murder- he reaped what he had sown.
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:tsktsk:

That is not the same thing. Had the old man followed the 3 young black men to their homes or church and walked up and shot them, then it would be the same. I’m dismayed at anyone that justifies Dr. Tiller’s murder/assassination.
 
rlg94086 said:
:tsktsk:

That is not the same thing. Had the old man followed the 3 young black men to their homes or church and walked up and shot them, then it would be the same. I’m dismayed at anyone that justifies Dr. Tiller’s murder/assassination.
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So he should have shot Tiller at his clinic while he was performing an abortion?
 
rlg94086 said:
I’m dismayed at anyone that justifies Dr. Tiller’s murder/assassination.
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im not justifying, jut stating fact. if he werent a murder he wouldnt have been murdered.

and dont call it an assassination please, the prodeath crowd already has enough fodder. no need to help them cannonize their ‘martyr’
 
Veridical16 said:
The flaw with Karma as a concept is that its incomplete.

It overlooks God’s mercy, and redemption. It also isn’t very reliable when one looks to depend on.

Your last statement is telling.
Doing bad shouldn’t be deterred because we’re afraid what might happen to our well-being. It should be a concern because we should worry about the well-being of others as well.
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Karma has no flaw, thats why it’s Karma.
haha.
They are both reasons, but many people, including me, are afraid to get themselves hurt too, not just hurting others.
 
a_cermak said:
I mean it will die anyway outside the womb. And the decision not to supply nutrients or space is not decided by the doctor, but by the pregnant woman.

No a born child can be cared for by anyone. Pre-viability, with the state of our science at this moment, only the woman that is pregnant can keep that child alive. And if she chooses not to, then it will die.
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And she should not have that option.

Does anyone else have the option of killing someone else who in inconvenient, handicapped, the wrong sex, or whatever? No.

I believe that you and I went around about the ancient Jewish rules regarding killing an unborn child in the thread about the situation in Brazil. I am happy to see that you are no longer using those ancient rules to justify your apparent disregard for the life of the unborn child, but sorry to see that you are still so callous. Do you not see that categorizing certain groups of human beings as somehow lesser is not good for any of us?

In Germany they first came for the Communists,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn’t speak up because I was a Protestant.

Then they came for me —
and by that time no one was left to speak up.
 
The fact is that by killing Dr. Tiller, he (Tiller) now has lost the opportunity to repent. That should grieve us all. We should not rejoice when a sinner dies without repentance, no matter what his crimes in life.

I hope God has more mercy for him than he (Tiller) had for the unborn.
 
Norminha said:
As a Priest For Life volunteer, I’m in close contact with Fr. Pavone, President of the Organization “Against abortion.” I just received a letter with the following introduction…

I asked him why he’s not happy with the killing of an abortionist.
Why he said that every life needs to be protected?
Is he not a liberal?
Never to wish harm, but to forgive a murderer?
I agree: I’ll die as I lived, fair enough
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Our Father, Who art in Heaven
Hallowed be Thy Name,
Thy Kingdom come, Thy Will be done,
On Earth as it is in Heaven.

Give us this day our daily Bread,
And forgive us our trespasses
as we forgive those who trespass against us,
And lead us not into temptation,
But deliver us from evil.
Amen.
 
St_Francis said:
Our Father, Who art in Heaven
Hallowed be Thy Name,
Thy Kingdom come, Thy Will be done,
On Earth as it is in Heaven.

Give us this day our daily Bread,
And forgive us our trespasses
as we forgive those who trespass against us,
And lead us not into temptation,
But deliver us from evil.
Amen.
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Eternal Father, in whom mercy is endless and the treasury of compassion inexhaustible, look kindly upon us and increase Your mercy in us, that in difficult moments we might not despair nor become despondent, but with great confidence submit ourselves to Your holy will, which is Love and Mercy itself.

Amen
 
aggiecatholic05 said:
im not justifying, jut stating fact. if he werent a murder he wouldnt have been murdered.

and dont call it an assassination please, the prodeath crowd already has enough fodder. no need to help them cannonize their ‘martyr’
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What the heck? You have a problem with the word assassination? If someone had taken Hitler out by shooting him, would it have been assassination? Of course. The crimes of the individual being assassinated have no bearing on the fact that they were assassinated. 🤷
 
aggiecatholic05 said:
i honestly think it was setup by the pro-aborts, maybe even tiller himself, so they could galvonize support for their evil and push forward with their murder and dehumionazation of all who oppose them.
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That reminds me of Arabs who told me that Israel set up the massacre at Lod airport to get world sympathy. I find your post cynical in the utmost and irresponsible since you cite no shred of evidence to back it up. The shooter has been connected to Operation Rescue, an anti-abortion group in Wichita.
wabrams said:
I don’t think I would call this act heartless.
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Shooting an usher in church while his wife is in the choir when there are less disruptive options? That sounds pretty heartless to me; I don’t care what justification is alleged.
 
rlg94086 said:
What the heck? You have a problem with the word assassination? If someone had taken Hitler out by shooting him, would it have been assassination? Of course. The crimes of the individual being assassinated have no bearing on the fact that they were assassinated. 🤷
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well until we know why he was murdered-which we dont as of now-it seems presumptious to assume it was an assassation. not all murders are assassations. but comparing this guy to hitler, that i wont object to.
 
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