Abortion Doctor's Murder Trial Opens

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Murder decisions must be unanimous. While you and I and probably most of us on CAF don’t think there is much doubt that the babies were born alive and then killed, juries have become so accustomed to the kind of clear and convincing physical evidence as seen on CSI or NCIS that they interpret beyond a REASONABLE doubt, to beyond ANY doubt. Thus Casey Anthony gets off… With respect to one of the cases thrown out by the judge, the ME said he could not say FOR SURE that the baby was born alive…as it had been too much time since the death. Much of the evidence was difficult to interpret. The babies bodies, frozen had to be carefully thawed and the ME noted that this made autopsy difficult. The defense clearly scored points on the “reasonable doubt” issue but the ME said there would be no other reason to snip the neck of the baby.

My hope is that they are only stuck on some but not all of the murder charges and perhaps taking multiple votes. Also there are literally hundreds of other charges to consider, plus I believe he has a co-defendant who is also being considered. Also the concern with appeals based on the theory that Gosnell couldn’t get a fair trial. Again I hope and pray the jury is being very careful so that this verdict will stand.

Lisa
There are a great number of charges (over 100 ranging from racketeering, not obeying the 24 hour consent law, illegal abortion and the murder charges) The jury needs to probably address each charge and vote on each charge. I’m sure that alone is time consuming.
 
Barbara Boxer is a moron.Does she really believe this or is it just a way to mitigate the horrible image of abortion created by the trial. So she thinks that other clinics have untrained teenagers giving anesthesia, cat feces everywhere, broken and contaminated equipment, dirty instruments, body parts in jars, in the freezer?

Is she KIDDING? I already replied to this one on FB.

Lisa
 
"During the speech, Boxer said the problems at the Gosnell abortion clinic were really no different than problems at any other medical clinic. "
“Testimony in the case has featured former employees of Gosnell describing how ‘hundreds’ of babies, many of them past viability, were born alive in the clinic only to have their spinal cords snipped by Gosnell or one of his assistants. Employees described babies moving, breathing, screaming, and even ‘swimming’ in a toilet after being born alive.”

Sooo…Boxer approves of this and claims it is standard practice at other medical clinics? Is there anything that would horrify her?
 
This is a gift from Barbara Boxer!! For her to say that what went on at the Gosnell place goes on at EVERY place, then how can abortion rights supporters justify abortion clinics as safe is beyond me!
BRILLIANT! Indeed, those California congresswomen are the gift that keeps on giving!!
Lisa
 
Barbara Boxer is a moron.Does she really believe this or is it just a way to mitigate the horrible image of abortion created by the trial. So she thinks that other clinics have untrained teenagers giving anesthesia, cat feces everywhere, broken and contaminated equipment, dirty instruments, body parts in jars, in the freezer?

Is she KIDDING? I already replied to this one on FB.

Lisa
Yeah, pretty much. I think we’d all be astounded at just how common people like Kermit Gosnell (don’t even want to dignify him by calling him “Doctor”) really are. And by stating this, Boxer is saying that she accepts this as normal for abortion clinics. Thanks, Babs, Senator, Ma’am!
 
This thread is so long I don’t have time to read it all, but everyone here should read Simcha Fischer’s piece in which she destroys the notion that the existence of Kermit Gosnell’s “clinic” is the fault of pro-lifers (yes, some people really think this).

ncregister.com/blog/simcha-fisher/who-is-to-blame-for-kermit-gosnell/
Yes, I’ve heard this discussed, thanks for this. This school of thought is being used as an excuse and shows up in comments sections unbelievably I have seen with some articles, this legal clinic is somehow like “back alley abortions”.
 
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