abortion?

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faithfully said:
No you will not die if you don’t get to a dr. right away. It’s just that your health and babies health are best monitored and cared for from the gate.
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do you just go to a regular doctor? and they do the tests?
 
celestielle…I hope you have found some hope here, and I would really recommend you e-mail Brother JR, he sincerely wants to help you and your baby. As for being afraid the baby will wind up in foster care. You say you yourself were in foster care, and you had bad experiences. But do you think you would be better off if you hadn’t been born? Would you rather your mother aborted you? I really hope you don’t think so! Your baby is already here, already alive! Abortion is not like waving a magic wand that poof makes the baby go away. Abortion is having your baby either sucked out of you by a vacuum, or, if the baby is too big for that, actually having the doctor chop it into pieces and pulling the pieces out of you! I doubt you’d have wanted your life to end that way, no matter how hard your life has been. Please don’t do the same thing to your baby!

Also, while I admit I don’t know about Canada, but in the US there actually is a kind of adoption called Open Adoption in which the birth parents play an active role in the child’s life. Not just getting letters and pictures. Actually seeing the child every month, even every week, sometimes even more often! So it’s not a choice between having to care for the baby all by yourself, or giving the baby up to some stranger and never seeing the baby again.

You have many many options and many people who want to help not just your baby, but YOU. Certainly here on CAF, and I’m sure in your real life as well. I understand you’re scared and feel lost, and you sound young. Please, please get help.

I’m also going to give you a link to a group called Birthright International. It was started in Toronto, Canada, and there are chapters all over Canada and the USA. Birthright offers pregnancy tests, and will actually help you find a doctor, too.

birthright.org/htmpages/locate.htm

You can locate your closest Birthright group by just typing in your postal code.

Also, their main number is: 1-800-550-4900.

Please know that you and your baby are in the prayers of many people here on CAF!
 
ToeInTheWater said:
celestielle…I hope you have found some hope here, and I would really recommend you e-mail Brother JR, he sincerely wants to help you and your baby. As for being afraid the baby will wind up in foster care. You say you yourself were in foster care, and you had bad experiences. But do you think you would be better off if you hadn’t been born? Would you rather your mother aborted you? I really hope you don’t think so! Your baby is already here, already alive! Abortion is not like waving a magic wand that poof makes the baby go away. Abortion is having your baby either sucked out of you by a vacuum, or, if the baby is too big for that, actually having the doctor chop it into pieces and pulling the pieces out of you! I doubt you’d have wanted your life to end that way, no matter how hard your life has been. Please don’t do the same thing to your baby!

Also, while I admit I don’t know about Canada, but in the US there actually is a kind of adoption called Open Adoption in which the birth parents play an active role in the child’s life. Not just getting letters and pictures. Actually seeing the child every month, even every week, sometimes even more often! So it’s not a choice between having to care for the baby all by yourself, or giving the baby up to some stranger and never seeing the baby again.

You have many many options and many people who want to help not just your baby, but YOU. Certainly here on CAF, and I’m sure in your real life as well. I understand you’re scared and feel lost, and you sound young. Please, please get help.

I’m also going to give you a link to a group called Birthright International. It was started in Toronto, Canada, and there are chapters all over Canada and the USA. Birthright offers pregnancy tests, and will actually help you find a doctor, too.

birthright.org/htmpages/locate.htm

You can locate your closest Birthright group by just typing in your postal code.

Also, their main number is: 1-800-550-4900.

Please know that you and your baby are in the prayers of many people here on CAF!
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oh… actually i am pretty sure ive seen ads for birthright on the bus. i did talk to jreducation, he even gave me some contact info for another group of people. i guess there is a lot of organizations out there that try to prevent abortions? you are probably right, i wouldnt want my mom to have had an abortion. i would still want to be alive. but if i had a baby and couldnt take care of it and it went to a bad home… then it would all be my fault and thats not right either :\
 
celestielle said:
do you just go to a regular doctor? and they do the tests?
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Not sure how medical care works there. But yes, you should be able to call your regular doctor. Tell them you think you’re pregnant, and ask for a blood test to be ordered. (that’s how we’d do it in the US).

Your doctor will usually call in the blood test. You go to the testing center. Blood only. Your Doc. calls you in a day or so. They are testing hormones that indicate that you’re pregnant. They may run a 2nd test 2 days later. I think that will depend on your numbers.

Once they determine that you are PG, you will probably go in for an ultrasound. And probably a pelvic exam. Have you ever had one? I would recommend that you take someone with you. It’s less intimidating. Again, you can seek out a female doctor if that makes you feel better. The ultasound is REALLY EASY. They will squirt a cool gel on your tummy, And rub a wand over your stomach. You will then get to see your baby. His/her heart beat and just how big that little one is. They will help you determine how far along you are.
 
You never answered me.

Is adoption not a possibility for you?
 
needles, ew D: is the pelvic exam absolutely required, can you tell them not to?
 
celestielle said:
needles, ew D: is the pelvic exam absolutely required, can you tell them not to?
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They will go over everything with you slowly and before they do it but they need to do it to make sure things like the placement of the baby and such is alright and it is the only way to do certain tests that well - if you are pregnant there is a chance that you also have been exposed to certain other things and the doctors will need to know before later in the pregnancy. Also woman who is sexually active should be getting a Pap Smear once a year as they are at a higher risk for cervical cancer - so yes it is absolutely necessary for your health.
 
joandarc2008 said:
They will go over everything with you slowly and before they do it but they need to do it to make sure things like the placement of the baby and such is alright and it is the only way to do certain tests that well - if you are pregnant there is a chance that you also have been exposed to certain other things and the doctors will need to know before later in the pregnancy. Also woman who is sexually active should be getting a Pap Smear once a year as they are at a higher risk for cervical cancer - so yes it is absolutely necessary for your health.
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there is no other way to check that? couldnt they just do an xray?
 
celestielle said:
there is no other way to check that? couldnt they just do an xray?
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A pap smear looks for microscopic cellular changes. An xray looks for a major tumor. By the time that type of cancer grew into a tumor it would already be deadly - if it ever showed up that way before spreading to other organs - it is one of the most common cancers in young women today. Also - exposing your reproductive organs to radiation is never good idea at any age - this is just one of those necessary medical procedures that come along with becoming sexually active - the whole thing when your not pregnant takes under 5 minutes - you will have to ask one of the women who has had children how long when you are pregnant - but yes instead of getting upset you do need to take a deep breath - relax and worry about what is best for you and your baby.

After all these would be tests that would be important whether or not you were pregnant.
 
joandarc2008 said:
A pap smear looks for microscopic cellular changes. An xray looks for a major tumor. By the time that type of cancer grew into a tumor it would already be deadly - if it ever showed up that way before spreading to other organs - it is one of the most common cancers in young women today. Also - exposing your reproductive organs to radiation is never good idea at any age - this is just one of those necessary medical procedures that come along with becoming sexually active - the whole thing when your not pregnant takes under 5 minutes - you will have to ask one of the women who has had children how long when you are pregnant - but yes instead of getting upset you do need to take a deep breath - relax and worry about what is best for you and your baby.

After all these would be tests that would be important whether or not you were pregnant.
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yeah i guess i will have to :\ they arent allowed to contact anybody about it right? like they cant call anybody and say “did you realize so and so came in today for a preg test”?
 
celestielle, gynecological care is designed to make you most healthy and your baby most healthy. it can be uncomfortable to think about exams. but BrotherJR’s friends can provide for you a good woman friend who attends your appointments with you. I have done that with young women who are in crisis pregnancy. it helps so much. AND ALL MEDICAL CARE IS CONFIDENTIAL.

on the other hand, abortion is brutal to a womans body. the types of utensils that are inserted into a woman’s birth canal to perpetrate the abortion of her baby are really horrible.

i was young too. i had my first child at age 17. i was terrified. up till the end i had chosen adoption. in the last month i chose to parent him.
i kinda hate the term “keep” him because even if i had chosen adoptive parents for him, i would have always KEPT him in my heart. now he’s 30 and has his own family. he’s a wonderful guy.

and another of my sons has a child for whom they DID choose an adoptive family. was it hard and sad? yes. but it wasnt tragic. abortion is tragic. but just this week i got 6 year old birthday pictures of him and a long letter from his (adoptive) mom. he’s doing so awsome and great! i miss him. but he’s ALIVE!!! my son and his girlfriend may have done a lot of goofy things when they were together, but choosing LIFE and adoption for their baby makes them my HEROES!!

celestielle, if you let your baby live, if you trust your STRENGTH and follow your conscience, if you let people help you and love you and your baby, all will be well.

you’re not religious, so we’ll pray FOR you. even if you ever do become a person who prays, we’ll still pray for you. and for your baby.

your baby is blessed, celestielle. some mothers abort their babies without a second thought. your baby has a mother who had to LISTEN to her heart, a mother who had to start asking scary hard questions, a mother who is willing to hear Truth, because your baby has a mother who loves. THAT’S a blessed baby.
 
celestielle said:
yeah i guess i will have to :\ they arent allowed to contact anybody about it right? like they cant call anybody and say “did you realize so and so came in today for a preg test”?
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I know in the US they are not - I cannot speak to the rules in Canada - my advice to you is to is to speak to the people that Brother JR put you in touch with they will know the laws better. How old are you as this may make a difference? You will need some help along the way eventually - and as Brother JR said if you are worried about your safety they will find a “safe house” for you even if it means sending you to the US.
 
celestielle said:
yeah i guess i will have to :\ they arent allowed to contact anybody about it right? like they cant call anybody and say “did you realize so and so came in today for a preg test”?
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unless you were under 12, which I doubt you are, a healthcare professional cannot share your medical history with anyone, or at least that’s how it is here in the US.

And just so you know, a pap smear while pregnant takes even less time than when not pregnant. And to tell you the truth, childbirth is not what people paint it to be. It can be painful but if you get an epidural, you’ll breeze thru it.

Still praying for you and your baby.
 
ouioui said:
unless you were under 12, which I doubt you are, a healthcare professional cannot share your.medical history with anyone, or at least that’s how it is here in the US.

And just so you know, a pap smear while pregnant takes egen less time than when not pregnant. And to tell you the truth, childbirth is not what people paint it to be. It can be painful but if you get an epidural, you’ll breeze thru it.

Still praying for you and your baby.
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I just didn’t want to make her any promises because she isn’t in the US.
 
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