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The Spiritus Mundi is not an alien word to Christianity. It is said to be the soul of the world, and we are of course part of it (in my opinion).Gary Sheldrake;12766307:
Good evening Simpleas: Just to be clear, I want to make sure that it’s understood that the ideas that I post are my own, and I offer them as something to think about. It is never my intent to sell anyone on any of these ideas. I do think you could worship anything as God, but I don’t think worship is helpful in the first place. I personally don’t worship anything. I think it would be better just to handle everything with care and treat everything as though it was sacred, and that includes ourselves (if we can do that). This is something I work on every day, with varying degrees of success.
As for God being everything, I would offer the following explanation. We take it that we are something separate, because the experiences that we have seem personal. In tis regard, I think we confuse sentience with consciousness. Consciousness is something far more vast. I think consciousness is transpersonal and there is really only one consciousness that pervades everything - rocks, trees, planets, birds, animas and you and I of course. And I think God is consciousness rather than a deity, and our minds are simply an interface between sentient experience and consciousness. To find God, I am offering the idea that you have to lose the idea of “self,” because there is only one “self” and that is what we call God. This is what I think Jesus meant when he said "“Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me.” So, I believe that as long as we hold on to the idea of an individual or personal self, we are missing the point. We can clearly look around us and see that all things are fractal in nature, and being fractal in nature, all things are visible in the source and the source is visible in all things. It is all “the source” building on itself and growing in size and complexity. This is an intrinsic truth that can be seen and demonstrated mathematically in the Mandelbrot Set, which is usually of more interest to mathematicians than spiritualists, but you can clearly see what I mean:
youtube.com/watch?v=0jGaio87u3A
This is also a reply to Bahman in post 680.
Again, I always remind anyone I converse with on these matters that I have absolutely no credentials with regard to spiritual matters, and I in no way invite anyone to believe the things I believe. This is simply my reasoning and I just enjoy the conversations.
All the best,
Gary
Thanks. Yes I enjoy the conversation too, trying to keep up with what some posters write is sometimes a struggle for my tiny brain!
I can’t quite understand why we believe we are to think of ourselves as separate from God, Adam and Eve were created with the intent to become one with God, to see God. We are taught that noone has seen God, even Adam and Eve did not see God, yet they and we believe we have a relationship with God through our thoughts first and foremost and then by our actions. Jesus tells his followers that he who has seen him sees the father, but is he speaking of visual seeing, the human person, son of God, or seeing the father by his word/actions, and we can become like him? He say’s somewhere else also that men can become Gods.
Thanks.