Aliens have immortal soul

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I used to believe that, however, that would make the Resurrection of the Body meaningless, as our soul would have all the necessary atributes in Heaven. Nowadays I think that the soul only give us our will (Free Will), our counsciousness, and our “Spiritual sense”, but not rationality, and this view makes more sense with the last neuroscientific theories which identify intelligence with the brain (which isn’t bad! After all we are soul AND body).
 
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I used to believe that, however, that would make the Resurrection of the Body meaningless, as our soul would have all the necessary atributes in Heaven. Nowadays I think that the soul only give us our will (Free Will), our counsciousness, and our “Spiritual sense”, but not rationality, and this view makes more sense with the last neuroscientific theories which identify intelligence with the brain (which isn’t bad! After all we are soul AND body).
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You’re confusing St. Thomas Aquinas with Descartes.
 
I am not saying that we are a ghost in a machine, but you cannot deny the scientific discoveries when developing theology. Why would God resurrect our bodies if we can perfectly function in Eternity? Why our souls are slaves to our neurotransmitters and neural pathways while we are on earth?
 
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I am not saying that we are a ghost in a machine, but you cannot deny the scientific discoveries when developing theology. Why would God resurrect our bodies if we can perfectly function in Eternity? Why our souls are slaves to our neurotransmitters and neural pathways while we are on earth?
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Why do you think we’d have all our faculties or would be complete without our bodies under Thomism? It teaches precisely otherwise, that our souls would be quite handicapped things without our bodies, that we would be incomplete. Furthermore, again, there is confusion of cognition and intelligence with what Aquinas specifically means by the intellectual faculty. You confuse Thomism with Cartesianism if you think that what neuroscience demonstrates about our brain’s role in intelligence, consciousness, and cognition contradicts it.
 
Our neurotransmitters “react”, are “moved”, they are not agents of anything, nor animators of anything, but simply provide storage of sensible content and retrieval of sensible content (i.e., Memory), but not intelligent storage - that must always be understood apart from the material of the brain and then re-presented to the brain again as a “sensible object” to be “sensed in thought” as if it were an external thing, though not.
 
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I see this one has Free Will - Neither Chocolate NOR Vanilla, but STRAWBERRY.
 
“Aliens”?

Before the bad jokes start (had to restrain myself there), we are speaking of extraterrestrials, right?

Funny that the Holy Spirit would lead the Apostles into “all truth” but not a peep about spaceships or creatures from outside of earth.
 
It wasn’t really relevant. Kinda like how the Holy Spirit didn’t mention the pythagorean theorem to the Apostles. For what purpose would it serve?
 
po18guy said:
Funny that the Holy Spirit would lead the Apostles into “all truth” but not a peep about spaceships or creatures from outside of earth.
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Somewhere the Illuminati are involved
 
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Well then, in thomism, what is the difference between cognition and intelligence?

In my theory the soul would aso be handicapped without the body, that’s why I thought it was a form of modified thomism, but you say otherwise…
 
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They should exist if universe is infinite. God is pure act therefore His creation is infinite. Therefore aliens exist.
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The universe is neither infinite in size nor in duration. It had a beginning. It is expanding – it might be big, but not infinite in extent.
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Human however has immortal soul because he is an intellectual being. Therefore aliens have immortal soul.
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No, humans have a rational soul, which was created in the “image and likeness of God.” Therefore, it is an immortal soul.

That does not imply that any other rational soul must necessarily be “in the image and likeness of God.” Therefore, that does not imply that any aliens – who might or might not exist! – must therefore have immortal souls.
 
If intelligible creation, then a God with a goal (an end that is other than a material physics that runs on til it runs out). Life would not come because of probability, but by intentionality of specific creatures in a specific environ, to attain the goal. Only what is intelligibly suited to the End is or will be in the whole of creation.
 
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po18guy said:
Funny that the Holy Spirit would lead the Apostles into “all truth” but not a peep about spaceships or creatures from outside of earth.
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John 10:16
I have other sheep that do not belong to this fold. These also I must lead, and they will hear my voice, and there will be one flock, one shepherd.
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Wow, I’ve never knew about that passage. It’s incredible how consistent the Word of God is.
 
Then again, maybe Jesus was talking about the Gentiles. Who knows?
 
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Suppose that they exist and are intellectual beings. Human however has immortal soul because he is an intellectual being. Therefore aliens have immortal soul.
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Yes, I would agree. But remember that to them, we are the aliens. So it works both ways.
 
STT said:
Suppose that they exist and are intellectual beings. Human however has immortal soul because he is an intellectual being. Therefore aliens have immortal soul.
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Have a read here:

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Seven Proofs for the Natural Immortality of the Human Soul

The late Dr. Antony Flew—perhaps the greatest atheist thinker of the last hundred years—came to faith in God largely through his studies in philosophy and, most especially, science, as he recounted in his book written with Roy Abraham Varghese, There is a God: How the World's Most Notori
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Thom18 said:
Why would being “an intellectual being” be tied to possessing an immortal soul?
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Not sure I really care about the OP’s question very much, but to answer your (more sensible) question…

Isn’t that what angels are?

They are immortal, but they possess intellects, too… yes?
 
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