'Aliens With Souls Are Living Among the Stars' Says Vatican Astronomer

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Sailor_Kenshin said:
Mere ‘sightings’ can never be proven one way or the other.

Now, if they had a ship, or a body…

And bad video on YouTube does not count!
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Sightings COULD be proven if a massvie fleet of them were seen in the skies over Earth, a la Independence Day. Or if they just “landed on the White House Lawn.” Which I doubt very much is going to happen. 😃

I do agree most of the YouTube videos are c–p.

But there have Mass sightings at one time and I DO believe some of the sightings are real. Not the majority of them, to be honest. But enough to convince ME, at least, of the validity of UFOs. Also, like the X-Files movie stated, “I Want To Believe.”👍

Ultimately, like I said—

We’ll cross that bridge when we get to it.:cool:
 
cjforJesus said:
I do suspect the majority of legitimate encounters are of a demonic nature , and I seriously wonder why a promoter of this “aliens are our creator” theory met with a vatican chief demonologist in 2000.

Perhaps the meeting is just an internet hoax,Can anyone find any reliable sources concerning this alleged meeting besides Sitchins website?
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I have to agree with them being demonic in nature…I also think that it will be used as part of end time apostasy, using alien disclosure to discredit Christianity…I just read about some new show dealing with this…
 
jdnation said:
. Only one who does not believe in the Fall and Original Sin can subscribe to the idea that other life exists out there with a soul and needs Baptism. For what exactly? Why should they suffer for a sin another committed on another planet?
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One might as well ask why animals suffer and die when it was the humans that committed original sin. If the consequences of original sin affect animals also, why not aliens?
 
OrdinaryMelkite said:
Sightings COULD be proven if a massvie fleet of them were seen in the skies over Earth, a la Independence Day. Or if they just “landed on the White House Lawn.” Which I doubt very much is going to happen. 😃

I do agree most of the YouTube videos are c–p.

But there have Mass sightings at one time and I DO believe some of the sightings are real. Not the majority of them, to be honest. But enough to convince ME, at least, of the validity of UFOs. Also, like the X-Files movie stated, “I Want To Believe.”👍

Ultimately, like I said—

We’ll cross that bridge when we get to it.:cool:
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I neither want to believe nor want to disbelieve—but, as always, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

And where is that Loch Ness Monster anyway?
 
Sailor_Kenshin said:
I neither want to believe nor want to disbelieve—but, as always, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

And where is that Loch Ness Monster anyway?
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I have no idea--------like you said, extraordinary proof is required. 😃
 
Before we speculate on the possession of a soul by extraterrestrial aliens perhaps we should understand the Vatican position on the possession of a soul by proto-humans such as Neanderthals. Has anyone read such a discourse by the Vatican? I did a cursory search but came up empty.
 
Bob_Aliano said:
Before we speculate on the possession of a soul by extraterrestrial aliens perhaps we should understand the Vatican position on the possession of a soul by proto-humans such as Neanderthals. Has anyone read such a discourse by the Vatican? I did a cursory search but came up empty.
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There was a thread about that in one of the forums. As far as was determined, Neanderthals did not know Christ and God as we know them, so they were excempt from the requirements for Salvation that we have (Sort Of).

That sort of presupposes in a way that Neanderthals had Souls. 👍
 
This prompts a lot of theological speculation. If true and there is only one God, One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. Did Jesus go to their planets, live and die for them and create a church? Is there a pope in this alternate universe? Alien Masses? Ordinary Form vs Extraterrestrial Form?
 
I wonder if there’s a pope on all these other planets?

Maybe things are different there, if they’re out there, that is
 
God created Angels in Heaven and He created all that is seen and unseen on the earth, some with souls. How can we presume to know what Almighty God created for His pleasure in the rest of the universe?
 
Christiano said:
I believe in life on other planets. I believe there may be microscopic life in other places in our Solar System (like Europa, Jupiter’s moon) and intelligent life in planets outside our Solar System. Astronomers have discovered hundreds of exoplanets and I believe (and hope) that it won’t take long for scientists to discover life in a few of these planets. I think saying that God created life only on Earth is wanting to limit the His power.

The fact that the Bible doesn’t say anything about life on other planets doesn’t mean that extraterrestrials don’t exist. The Bible was written by humans (although inspired by God) and for humans. So it doesn’t necessarily means it had to say something about aliens for us to believe in them.
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Why does there have to be life on other planets? Also, any intelligent life that is self-aware would be on par with humanity, which means that race would also need to be saved, which would mean two Adams, and two Eves, and two saviors.
 
Alexander_Smith said:
Why does there have to be life on other planets? Also, any intelligent life that is self-aware would be on par with humanity, which means that race would also need to be saved, which would mean two Adams, and two Eves, and two saviors.
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Just because Intelligent Life is self-aware does NOT mean it is on a par with Humanity.

And other racrs may indeed know God----just in a different form and context, as to a Savior-type figure,------it may be that those races have different “standards” of salvation than are alloted to us—it may even be that they are MORE spiritually and religiously advanced than us----have you thought of that?🙂
 
SunshineZA said:
God created Angels in Heaven and He created all that is seen and unseen on the earth, some with souls. How can we presume to know what Almighty God created for His pleasure in the rest of the universe?
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Exactly. Thanks for the answer.
 
What all of u people will find hard to believe is that many of u have been deceived…
Aliens/UFOs=Demons/Fallen angels=Ghosts

I am 100% convinced about this fact. But in order to explain all this i would have to explain conspiracy theories…wich isnt related to this thread. I will just say that:

Demons want to deceive us making us think they are something they arent such as UFOs. If u are interested in knowing what UFOs and Ghosts really are i suggest u watch these 13 videos about a huge conspiracy.

The Illuminati conspiracy (Part 1 to 13)

youtube.com/watch?v=vsea-oXMxGI
youtube.com/watch?v=ImRItozEg6I
youtube.com/watch?v=jaDN7GmK2tY
youtube.com/watch?v=NVVVxWbLBbo
youtube.com/watch?v=7tEH2KeaUzs
youtube.com/watch?v=ar0zFEkKClo
youtube.com/watch?v=avPty5E9FYQ
youtube.com/watch?v=avPty5E9FYQ
youtube.com/watch?v=xtC_RvPJwd4
youtube.com/watch?v=dLkNxMyMNj8
youtube.com/watch?v=ydVIyP-zSBw
youtube.com/watch?v=4t0IU1Gvaus
youtube.com/watch?v=uu4kSp5tTLg
 
I don’t believe aliens exist at all. I can believe , with out proof, but the claim has to have credibility. There should be video evidence of aliens if they exist. We should have caught a ship on a cell phone camera , or at least the hubble telescope!
 
ChrisRedfield47 said:
What all of u people will find hard to believe is that many of u have been deceived…
Aliens/UFOs=Demons/Fallen angels=Ghosts

I am 100% convinced about this fact. But in order to explain all this i would have to explain conspiracy theories…wich isnt related to this thread. I will just say that:

Demons want to deceive us making us think they are something they arent such as UFOs. If u are interested in knowing what UFOs and Ghosts really are i suggest u watch these 13 videos about a huge conspiracy.

The Illuminati conspiracy (Part 1 to 13)

youtube.com/watch?v=vsea-oXMxGI
youtube.com/watch?v=ImRItozEg6I
youtube.com/watch?v=jaDN7GmK2tY
youtube.com/watch?v=NVVVxWbLBbo
youtube.com/watch?v=7tEH2KeaUzs
youtube.com/watch?v=ar0zFEkKClo
youtube.com/watch?v=avPty5E9FYQ
youtube.com/watch?v=avPty5E9FYQ
youtube.com/watch?v=xtC_RvPJwd4
youtube.com/watch?v=dLkNxMyMNj8
youtube.com/watch?v=ydVIyP-zSBw
youtube.com/watch?v=4t0IU1Gvaus
youtube.com/watch?v=uu4kSp5tTLg
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Demons are real. They attack holy people like Padre Pio, and they attack us ordinary folk at times, too.

But you are trivializing the reality of demonic forces by mixing it with UFO fables.
 
… my dear friends …

… i don’t think so , in an case if they are meant to be in this one creation how are they aliens ??? alien to what ??? are we aliens ??? no , we are not , if they were they would be our kinfolk , like brothers and sisters — having the one father god and probably coming from the one mother mass before the big bang like us , so how would they be alien ??? i take offense at the term " alien " , but there are no aliens out there , god really did create all this for us , how much god loves us , what makes us think creation is only for living beings with rational souls like us anyway ??? it seems like a bit of a superiority complex , creation is for all creation - living or not , just because something is not alive does not mean it has no value or purpose , all created things are love - all creation is love , and all creation just loves — that is the purpose of creation , our superiority complex clouds our judgment here i think ??? we are not the only worthwhile thing in the cosmos at all , all is love and all is valuable and all has purpose and meaning , not just beings with immortal souls , intellect and free will , we have missed the point i think - sometimes …

… god bless all 👍🙂 …

… john …
 
OrdinaryMelkite said:
Just because Intelligent Life is self-aware does NOT mean it is on a par with Humanity.

And other racrs may indeed know God----just in a different form and context, as to a Savior-type figure,------it may be that those races have different “standards” of salvation than are alloted to us—it may even be that they are MORE spiritually and religiously advanced than us----have you thought of that?🙂
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How is it possible to be more spiritually or religiously advanced than those of the Catholic Church, especially considering the fact that free-will is one of the main requirements for having a soul?

Remember -if God is their creator then the devil is also their tempter.
 
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