Allah is Above what you think and imagine

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Prophet Mohammad prayer and peace be upon him taught us to respect all the prophets: Jesus, Mosus, David, Solomon, Joun, Zakariya, etc, peace be upon them all.

Never you will find a muslim mocking at any prophet.
Since the incarnation of God on earth as Jesus, the Christ, there has been no need of any other prophet. He gave us the Holy Spirit, and His Church to preserve His word and covenant. As the second member of the Trinity, He will come again to judge the living and the dead, and His kingdom shall have no end. God said all He has to say, and formed the eternal convenant with mankind in His passion, death, and resurrection. Islam came about AFTER the resurrection and ascension of our Lord, the imparting of the Holy Spirit, and the sending out of the Apostles to form the God’s Church.

Islam does not accept that Jesus IS God. This is not something which can be resolved. It is what it is. Islam and Christianity can not both be true. Jesus Is who he says He Is, in which case all of the rest of mankinds’ religions formed after the incarnation of God in human form are folly. Or he was nothing but a confused young man, who attracted much attention to himself, and eventually bringing the ire of the local religious in 1st century Judea.

One thing is for sure. If we accept Jesus as who He Is, then he is not a prophet as claimed by Islam. He is God, incarnate on Earth. The Word made flesh.

Matthew 16:

13* Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do men say that the Son of man is?” 14* And they said, “Some say John the Baptist, others say Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” 15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” 16* Simon Peter replied, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17* And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jona! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. 18* And I tell you, you are Peter, * and on this rock * I will build my church, and the powers of death * shall not prevail against it. 19* I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”

John 1:

9* The true light that enlightens every man was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world knew him not. 11 He came to his own home, and his own people received him not. 12* But to all who received him, who believed in his name, he gave power to become children of God; 13* who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God. 14* And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father. 15* (John bore witness to him, and cried, “This was he of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me ranks before me, for he was before me.’”) 16* And from his fulness have we all received, grace upon grace. 17* For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

Revelation 22:

16* “I Jesus have sent my angel to you with this testimony for the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright morning star.” 17* The Spirit and the Bride say, “Come.” And let him who hears say, “Come.” And let him who is thirsty come, let him who desires take the water of life without price. 18 I warn every one who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if any one adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, 19 and if any one takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. 20 He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus! 21* The grace of the Lord Jesus be with all the saints. * Amen.

Philippians 2:

9* Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name which is above every name, 10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

I love and respect the free will of man. I struggled through nearly 1/2 a century of my life before the Lord graced me with conversion. My prayers will forever be with those who are still without the light. Understanding is a good thing, and peace is a good thing. I have nothing but love for my Islamic brothers and sisters. God is all merciful, and if those caught up in the heresy of Islam are truly without knowledge or understanding of Christ, then they may be considered in the category of invincibly ignorant at judgement. It is WAY above my paygrade to decide such things. I pass no judgement. So, peace be upon you, and may the Holy Spirit guide you to the loving heart of His son, our Savior, Jesus Christ in the fullness of time. I will continue to witness, as I can do no other thing. I’m a disciple of the Lord. But my witness is brought with love, and my wishes for peace among men are ernest.

Peace to you,

Steven
 
  1. Verily, We did send down the Taurât (Torah) [to Mûsa (Moses)], therein was guidance and light, by which the Prophets, who submitted themselves to Allâh’s Will, judged the Jews. And the rabbis and the priests [too judged the Jews by the Taurât (Torah) after those Prophets] for to them was entrusted the protection of Allâh’s Book, and they were witnesses thereto. Therefore fear not men but fear Me (O Jews) and sell not My Verses for a miserable price. And whosoever does not judge by what Allâh has revealed, such are the disbelievers.
  2. And We ordained therein for them: “Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal.” But if anyone remits the retaliation by way of charity, it shall be for him an expiation. And whosoever does not judge by that which Allâh has revealed, such are the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong*doers).
  3. And in their footsteps, We sent 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), confirming the Taurât (Torah) that had come before him, and We gave him the Injeel (Gospel), in which was guidance and light and confirmation of the Taurât (Torah) that had come before it, a guidance and an admonition for Al-Muttaqûn (the pious).
  4. Let the people of the Injeel (Gospel) judge by what Allâh has revealed therein. And whosoever does not judge by what Allâh has revealed (then) such (people) are the Fâsiqûn (the rebellious i.e. disobedient (of a lesser degree) to Allâh.
  5. And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad) the Book (this Qur’ân) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Mohayminan (trustworthy in highness and a witness) over it (old Scriptures). So judge between them by what Allâh has revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging away from the truth that has come to you. To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way. If Allâh willed, He would have made you one nation, but that (He) may test you in what He has given you; so strive as in a race in good deeds. The return of you (all) is to Allâh; then He will inform you about that in which you used to differ.
see. . . . . . . Even mohammad knew that the Book of Jews and Christians is a guidance and LIGHT! Therefore you moslems, Read the Bible to See the Light! Because even Mohammad himself didnt find Light to his Doctrines your Quran! And see. . . The Passages of your Quran is full of Hatred and darkness, your God is the King of Darkness! Your Allah is actually the Satan! If you read the Bible, you will see that your Quran is the work of The Evil Spirit. And take note according to Mohammad the Gospel and Torah will Serve you as a Guidance and Light! Al qaed, abussayaf and other terrorist Groups, they are obeying Your Quran! That they will fight all non Moslems because accdng to your Quran it is the will of Allah-the Evil God- Satan! That is the description of your Allah according to Bible, see. . . .Take note again the Bible is Light! In 1john 4:8"He who does not LOVE does not know God, For God is LOVE", therefore, you slave of god, do you love your neighbor? Or do moslems love others? And since your God is Allah of Hatred and Darkness. And i want to reiterate that Jews and Catholic Church, came First before Islam and Mohammad is Born. . . .And most of the teachings of Mohammad is against to the Christian Church, and he is preaching other Jesus from the True Jesus Of the Catholic Church, how mohammad knew the history of Jesus, since Jesus born in the First century and he established his Church on 33ad and this Mohammad and Islam was born around 300ad! . . . . . . . . . . .And did you that the Life of Mohammad is full sin and Evil! No wonder most moslems Love to be EVIL! Amen!
 
Yes Hyacinth.
God created diversity. But He didn’t create a lie. The Bible says: God is not a God of confusion.
Yet you claim that you worship the same god as the muslims, Allah. But beware who you worship then because the spirit of allah said that the Christians are cursed and that Jesus is not the Son of God. So choose wisely.
Well, Allah is The Truth and His Words are the Truth, He cursed the liars whether they are christians or muslims.

And He forgives those who repent to Him from the liars and admit them into His Mercy.

Remember:
Your concept of LOVE is void if its without Truth. The path to hell is filled with wrong tolerance.

If I worship Zeus and I say: He is the only god that exists, then that does not mean I am not an idol worshipper. Claimed monotheism does not mean you worship the true god, only that you worship one god.
All muslims agree with this, we have to worship the Creator not the creatures.
Worshipping an idol is not monotheism, because the idol is nothing, so, It is zeroeism.

There is Only One God, no gods beside Him.
 
Ok. . . How sure that Islam didnt worship a creature? Hehehehe. Did you know that Allah is a Creature of Muhammad, and he is created by our Lord God The Father in Heaven?! Again, read the Bible, even Mohammad admitted that the Bible is a guidance and Light!
 
Where is the beauty of a god that deliberately deceives some people in order to send them to hell? Or one that calls the unbelievers the worst of creation?

Vickie
God didn’t deceive people,

Of course, the unbelievers are the worst of creation.

Is there more worst than those who attack God and His messengers and plot against them while God sent the messengers to show people the guidance and to lead them to Paradise?

Is it not bad to deny the One who created you?

I don’t understand how some people choose to be away from God, then blame Him when they are destroyed.

God is The Peace, so I should blame myself if I oppose Him and become His enemy.
  1. Truly! Allâh wrongs not mankind in aught; but mankind wrong themselves.
Allahumma Anta Assalaaam, wa minka assalaaam, tabaarakta yathal Jalaali wal ikraam.

O Allah, You are The Peace, and The Source of Peace, Blessed be You, O Owner of Majesty and Nobility.(Hadith)
  1. And whoever does righteous good deeds, male or female, and is a true believer in the Oneness of Allâh (Muslim), such will enter Paradise and not the least injustice, even to the size of a Naqîra (speck on the back of a date*stone), will be done to them.
  2. And who can be better in religion than one who submits his face (himself) to Allâh (i.e. follows Allâh’s Religion of Islâmic Monotheism); and he is a Muhsin (a good-doer). And follows the religion of Ibrâhim (Abraham) Hanifa (Islâmic Monotheism - to worship none but Allâh Alone). And Allâh did take Ibrâhim (Abraham) as a Khalil (an intimate friend). (Quran)
 
That isn’t an accepted person according to saudi arabia. What sect of islam are you representing?
You are talking without knowledge.

Saudi Arabia is not the prophet prayer and peace be upon him.

I follow the strongest evidence, regardless what is their sect.

My religion is the truth, where ever I find it, then it is my religion.

Peace be upon prophet Mohammad who taught us that thing.
 
Be careful of what? Just because we do not buy into Allah being YHWH? After reading the Quran not only do I not God, but that Muhammad is not a prophet but just a warlord who realized that once he gained some power he just pushed his agenda onto others. We see that even today not only in Islam, but also in other political movements such as communism.
Dear Slave of God,

Why have you not answered the facts I have posted. All you have done is to vaguely threaten me with your “be careful” message. I have posted many facts about the life and teaching of Mahomet and you have yet to address any of them.

Why is this?
يرجى إعطاء إجابة مدروس

Please give a thoughtful answer
 
If your Allah is the Son of God, Jesus Christ, yep we have the same God! If not, nope we don’t. But there is one God, the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth. God from God, light from light, true God from true God One in being with the Father.👍
 
God didn’t deceive people,

Of course, the unbelievers are the worst of creation.

Is it not bad to deny the One who created you?

I don’t understand how some people choose to be away from God, then blame Him when they are destroyed.

God is The Peace, so I should blame myself if I oppose Him and become His enemy.
  1. Truly! Allâh wrongs not mankind in aught; but mankind wrong themselves.
    Allahumma Anta Assalaaam, wa minka assalaaam, tabaarakta yathal Jalaali wal ikraam.
O Allah, You are The Peace, and The Source of Peace, Blessed be You, O Owner of Majesty and Nobility.(Hadith)
  1. And whoever does righteous good deeds, male or female, and is a true believer in the Oneness of Allâh (Muslim), such will enter Paradise and not the least injustice, even to the size of a Naqîra (speck on the back of a date*stone), will be done to them.
  2. And who can be better in religion than one who submits his face (himself) to Allâh (i.e. follows Allâh’s Religion of Islâmic Monotheism); and he is a Muhsin (a good-doer). And follows the religion of Ibrâhim (Abraham) Hanifa (Islâmic Monotheism - to worship none but Allâh Alone). And Allâh did take Ibrâhim (Abraham) as a Khalil (an intimate friend). (Quran)
Yet the Words of Christ are so different from yours. From Jesus we learn that God loves the sinners and the just alike… what He does not like is our SINS. Actually we learn that we ARE ALL SINNERS. You too… so we need His Grace and His sovereign Salvation. Without Him we can do nothing. All of us deserve death for our sins. If we say we have no sin we are liars. God saves us, so we have nothing to boast about.

The Bible says God lets it rain on just and unjust alike… meaning a good rain. Because He is good. But your god loves only the ones who think they are righteous. But Jesus says: “There is no one who is good except God”.

He is the Light. The Love.

Your concept of God is wrong.
The one who doesn’t have the Son does not have the Father.
Sorry, but these are the words of Jesus. Its not too late for you to turn to Him…

I know you don’t want to but I want to tell you this as a friend: Ask God about who is Jesus. In truth I tell you, He will answer you. He always did to me and my friends who asked the same question. When you pray your personal prayer ask Him about it… He will not let you down. He loves you so much. He loves all of His creation… as the Bible says: even when we are not faithful, He is faithful forever because He is the TRUTH.

Salaam and Peace.
 
I am sorry to say but everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9/11/01

Thats just my feeling. Until Islam proves it loves peace more then Violence.
 
I am sorry to say but everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9/11/01

That’s just my feeling. Until Islam proves it loves peace more then Violence.
I think that’s insufficient. Do study the Holy Bible and compare it to the Koran and Hadith. During the course of history nominal Christians have done some pretty attrocious things… but anyone who studies the life of Christ will see these acts were not sanctioned by His example. On the contrary.
Muhammad, on the other hand, was extemely violent and a man in the power of his own flesh.

Go into an investigation and you will learn not only to have an oppinion based on feeling and instinct but on knowlege. Thus you can help those who are chained in the darkness of Islam.

Peace.
 
To all brother moslems, lets read the Bible and you will the difference. Be broadminded, we christians also reading your Quran but honestly i didnt find light to your Scripture. So different to the Holy Bible, and you will see how the Bible so intelligent, there’s a lot of Revelations or prophesies of the Bible done Already, even your Mohammad, bible Prophesied him as a False Prophet to disturb the Truth. . . . .
 
It seems reason that the muslims come here is not to learn about our faith but to try to distort it like Muhammad did with the Quran.
 
Ah, but you see I am telling the Truth. The would be Jewish prophet of Mecca and the Assassin and Terrorist of Medina are almost two completely separate people.

After his rejection by the Jews, Mahomet went to Medina where he began to initiate the so called Constitution of Medina where it was really a way to broker himself power and to break the peace between the Jewish tribes (Banu 'l-Nadir, Banu Qurayza and the Banu Qaynuqa) and the two arab tribes of the Aws and the Khazraj.

It is here that his character as an evil and power hungry (and possibly epileptic) madman comes to the fore. He even goes so far as to have one of his men to murder the Poetess Asma bint Marwan (of the Aws tribe) in her bed surrounded by her children simply because she wrote a poem encouraging the tribes to reject the power mad outsider (muhammed)

It is also here that he has the convenient ‘revelation’ that it is okay to murder during the holy month after his men did so. He was getting a lot of negative feedback from men who were actually holy and so he invented a new revelation (now known as Sura 2.217) “They will ask you concerning the Sacred months, whether they may war therein. Say: Warring therein is grievous but to obstruct the way of God and to deny Him, to hinder men from the holy temple, and to expel His people thence, this is more grievous than slaughter.”
All the stoies you mentioned about Mohammad, I indeed challenge you to bring them from the Quran or the trustee books of Hadith Bukhary, Muslim.

But I will show you from the bible what Jesus said:

But as for these enemies of mine who didn’t want me to be their king-bring them here and slaughter them in my presence!’" (Luke 19: 27)

There are more if you wish, just read the bible.
  1. We know indeed the grief which their words cause you (O Muhammad PBUH): it is not you that they deny, but it is the Verses (the Qur’ân) of Allâh that the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong*doers) deny.
  2. Verily, (many) Messengers were denied before you (O Muhammad PBUH), but with patience they bore the denial, and they were hurt, till Our Help reached them, and none can alter the Words (Decisions) of Allâh. Surely there has reached you the information (news) about the Messengers (before you).
  3. If their aversion (from you, O Muhammad PBUH and from that with which you have been sent) is hard on you, (and you cannot be patient from their harm to you), then if you were able to seek a tunnel in the ground or a ladder to the sky, so that you may bring them a sign (and you cannot do it, so be patient). And had Allâh willed, He could have gathered them together (all) unto true guidance, so be not you one of those who are Al-Jâhilûn (the ignorant).
  4. It is only those who hear will respond, but as for the dead (disbelievers), Allâh will raise them up, then to Him they will be returned (for their recompense).
 
But I will show you from the bible what Jesus said:

But as for these enemies of mine who didn’t want me to be their king-bring them here and slaughter them in my presence!’" (Luke 19: 27)
Jesus /Isa still loves you even though you have turned against Him and slander Him.

I correct you in the Name of Yeshua. When you read the passage you will understand that Jesus spoke in parables/ stories. Why do you slander Him? What is your purpose of that? If you want to slander someone why do you choose Jesus?
The parables that He described did not always fit with Him nor his Father. Do you understand the difference between fiction and reality?

Jesus had the crowd in His Hand. he could Have commaded a major war if He wanted… but He did not want what the devil wants, which is death and violence.

Your religion teaches to kill the infidel. You are angry and jealous at us because Our Lord teaches us to LOVE and To FORGIVE.

I ask you to LOOK AT THE CHRIST. Now what do you see???
Now look at Muhammad… really look at him, his example… what do you see???

Jesus said: This is My Command: That you LOVE oneanother, like I have loved you.
 
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**But I will show you from the bible what Jesus said:

But as for these enemies of mine who didn’t want me to be their king-bring them here and slaughter them in my presence!’" (Luke 19: 27)**
There are more if you wish, just read the bible.

~ *snip *~
Did you bother to read Luke chapter 19 before you posted verse #27 - apparently not because if you did you would know that Jesus was telling a story/parable

Parable of Money Usage


Luke 19: #11

**While they were listening to these things, Jesus went on to tell a parable, **because He was near Jerusalem, and they supposed that the kingdom of God was going to appear immediately.

I will not post #12 through #27 because you can read it on your own.

Thanks!
 
slave of allah…

How can it be that when I say: “Your prophet is evil”, you excuse following him by pointing at what you assume to be greater evilness in my Lord, Jesus?? Truly, what a low rhetorics.
If Jesus had done what your prophet did, I would not follow him because he would not be worthy of any disciple.
When you point your misconceptions at us instead of defending properly your own beliefs, you more than show that there is no defence available for your prophet and that we speak truth.
You would excuse one evil with another evil?? Why not come out of ALL EVIL and embrace the One who has no sin? Jesus Christ.

Your prophet waged wars, raids, massacred whole towns, raped, tortured, was a pedofile etc.
You know this. Its in the Koran and Hadith… and yes, we have read them and also heard testimony from Christians that used to be in the darkness that holds you chained. Be honest with your self.

You can not show one instance in the Bible where Jesus Christ lays hand on anyone for any reason.

There was no deceit in His mouth, He was Innocent, Holy and Pure, and He said to the sinners : “I forgive you”, to the sick: “be healed” and they were and are today too in His Name, to the afflicted: “go in peace”, to the sinners “I have come for you, the lost, because the healthy dont need a doctor, but the sick do”, to the afraid: “do not be afraid, do not loose hope.”

He is the LOVE and our Peace. Because of Him I love you and forgive you for everything you have said, because you are blind.

Don’t be afraid to read the New Testament. Let Jesus speak for Himself. He is not a criminal in need of a defence. We trust Him because He is good.

Peace.
 
In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Salaam/peace

Your prophet waged wars, raids, massacred whole towns, raped, tortured, was a pedofile etc.
dispute over all these will be solved on the final Day. Let’s wait.
You can not show one instance in the Bible where Jesus Christ lays hand on anyone for any reason.
lol , never read OT ? How Jesus (pbuh) inspired OT figures to destroy the whole city if they are idol worshippers ? How Jesus (pbuh) inspired Moses , David (peace be upon them) to kill thousands & thousands & took virgins for the soldiers ??

Even in NT , there are verses where Jesus (pbuh) told disciples to bring sword & kill those who don’t accept him , how he came in this earth not to bring peace …but surely u will say that these are all parables .

Anyway , let some/many Christians bash the last Prophet 24/7 , God Willing we will always respect Jesus & Mother Mary (peace be upon them).
 
I’d like to thank you for your post. I believe that your Allah and my God are one in the same. We human beings in our finite understanding and different languages and cultures, have only given them a different name. Your post is beautiful and reflects your beliefs which parallel that of many Christians and Hebrews throughout the world. It is time we recognize that Allah, God means for us to understand one another and live in peace, respecting our cultural differences and rejoicing in the truth that He has revealed to us all. May peace, spiritual fulfillment and love be yours. I believe you have, in you posting of this message, reached out with the love of Allah. Thank you for helping those not of your faith, to understand what you believe.🙂
I agree, One and the same!
 
I agree, One and the same!
They may be the same I don’t know, greater minds then myself must decided. All I know is my God is a LOVE and HOPE and not God Fear and death.

My God wants me to be part of his fellowship.

Not a slave to him. Islam has a distorted image of God and what he wants for us.
 
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