Animals You Eat: Bad Meat!

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distracted said:
the animals are Not given antibiotics or hormones several weeks before slaughter so it is out of their systems by then… at least this is true of many factories and i believe it is a law in most states… if not ALL…
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that does not do a thing to prevent antibiotic resistant bacteria either from being created or spread around. please educate yourself:

ncifap.org/
 
cathybramble said:
that does not do a thing to prevent antibiotic resistant bacteria either from being created or spread around. please educate yourself:

ncifap.org/
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no thanks… i prefer ignorance… 😃

and of course, all we meat-eaters are ignorant just because we don’t buy all that vegetarian nonsense…
 
po18guy said:
Remember, for you to live, something has to die. Just because plants can’t scream, don’t think they do not suffer.
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:rotfl:That’s funny!
I’ll be thinking of that when I’m harvesting my garden and tilling the dirt.👍
 
Cracker_Mom said:
I would if I’d have thought of it. Not for spite, but humor.😉
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if i were an alien from outer space (and I may be for all anyone knows… :whacky::hmmm: ) 😃

i would, after viewing these posts, decide to be a meat-eater because, well, quite frankly and just being honest and all that stuff… i feel the vegetarians are, well, not very nice to the meateaters… so … you know, maybe something is missing in their diet…

something like…

You guessed it:

Fatty pork!!!

😃
 
cathybramble said:
just a couple of things… people keep saying how unprofitable it is for animals to be not taken care of properly… but i’m looking for an explanation as to why factory farmed animals need so many antibiotics if they are so healthy? 70% of the antibiotics made in the US is fed to livestock… so much so that antibiotic resistant bacteria is a very real and big concern.

the other thing is, statistically, the turnover rate for these jobs your’e describing is 100%. that is why producers tolerate employees who abuse animals… it is hard to find people to work in those places. ya know, i’m not a PETA fan myself, i disagree with most of what they say and do - but what motivation do they actually have for producing video after video on farm after farm, of these horrible things happening? the industry has a lot to gain from denying the abuse… but PETA… not so much to gain from exposing it :hmmm:
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One reason there’s been a big turn over locally is that we’ve had ICE raids which have rounded up the illegal aliens working in poultry plants.That may explain some of the turnover rate in other areas as well.
PETA’s motivation stems from fanaticism.Period.
Nursing homes here have a big employee turnover rate due to poor working conditions & low pay.Some employees take it out on the old folks.Every industry has issues. I’m not real big on nursing homes & think mass produced poultry has little flavor but am reconciled that both serve a purpose in the modern world.And both can stand improvement.My first concern would be with the nursing home folk, though. “Chicken welfare” would not even be a close second, or third, or…
 
cathybramble said:
well there’s a revelation. :rolleyes:
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I’m glad you see it as a revelation and not a clear-as-day fact…😃

of course you don’t know me so you can’t presume such a thing…

but then again, i guess you can… since

you are on CAF… 😃

where presumption and insult are quite commonplace…
 
I’m wondering why i am sitting here… hungry, dreaming of fatty pork …

talking to people who can’t think straight because they haven’t had any fatty pork in a very long time…

😃

but then I myself have not had any in a very long time… 😦

something like 10 hours!!! :eek: :eek:
 
Cracker_Mom said:
Be prepared for enlightenment!:rolleyes:And humor deficit.😉
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I’m still waiting… 😃

(for the first one… not the 2nd)…

hmmm… let’s see if we’ve learned something today, Folks…

We’ve learned taht animals are to be put on the same level as human beings or maybe even higher… since no one here has mentioned how awful and cruel abortion is…

just cruelty to animals…

hmmm… are animals created in God’s image???

Just wondering…
 
Veganism amounts to nothing more than herbicide. And wasn’t the prohibition against it written on one of the tablets that Moses broke?

But, seriously, you see very few omnivores berating, belittling or acting in a condescending manner toward vegans. The reverse is, sadly, not true. Like all elitism, it stinks.
 
distracted said:
I’m wondering why i am sitting here… hungry, dreaming of fatty pork …

talking to people who can’t think straight because they haven’t had any fatty pork in a very long time…

😃

but then I myself have not had any in a very long time… 😦

something like 10 hours!!! :eek: :eek:
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We had some great grilled pork chops last night with butter beans cooked with smoked neckbones,And no food police watching-or preaching.😉
And we were lucky they were marked down 50 percent or we couldn’t have afforded them.
 
Cracker_Mom said:
One reason there’s been a big turn over locally is that we’ve had ICE raids which have rounded up the illegal aliens working in poultry plants.That may explain some of the turnover rate in other areas as well.
PETA’s motivation stems from fanaticism.Period.
Nursing homes here have a big employee turnover rate due to poor working conditions & low pay.Some employees take it out on the old folks.Every industry has issues. I’m not real big on nursing homes & think mass produced poultry has little flavor but am reconciled that both serve a purpose in the modern world.And both can stand improvement.My first concern would be with the nursing home folk, though. “Chicken welfare” would not even be a close second, or third, or…
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PETA is fanatical i think, but what do they gain from fabricating videos of abuse? they could start their own commune and be as fanatical as they wish… they don’t have to make the videos.

as for the immigration raids… what does it say about these large, multi-billion dollar corporations if they are mainly employing low-wage immigrant workers? what do these companies like smithfield really do for our economy if they aren’t paying fair wages to american citizens? i don’t like think it’s admirable or ethical myself.

but yeah i’ve worked in nursing homes i wouldn’t put my dog in, unfortunately. i didn’t see abuse, just… bad policies. i left because i was told to force-feed certain residents (because the families demanded it) and i just couldn’t do it. 😦

i took care of my grandmother at home for her last 6 months - what a blessing that she was able to remain at home with people who loved her and die peacefully in her own bed at the age of 90. would you believe that i was a vegetarian and animal-rights person at the same time? you see, we (as humans) don’t have to choose who deserves compassion. elderly vs. chickens, unborn vs. cows… our hearts are big enough to love all of God’s creation, all at the same time 😉
 
Marfran said:
Please view the *You Tube *video *Animals You Eat: Bad Meat! *and explain to me how Catholics can be a part of this. This planet and all creatures in it are gifts from God. When we abuse animals, when we partake in pollution, when we degrade the planet/environment, we disrespect God. My Catholic Church speaks of Respect for Life–but we must respect ALL of life, ALL of God’s gifts, ALL of God’s creation. Catholics must stand up for the Repect of ALL of life, ALL that God has created–we are the STEWARDS of the planet. Watch this video and you will not feel like a steward–you will feel the tarnish, you will feel God’s disapproval.
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You are absolutely right! I will no longer callously disregard the dignity of bacteria by washing my hands. After all, they are God’s creation and are ALIVE. I will drive at no more than 1 MPH, since I don’t want my windshield to slaughter innocent mosquitoes that are carrying equally innocent bacteria!

OK, so how do you square your private opinion with scripture, which is inspired by God?
Acts 10:9-16 About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray. He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles of the earth and birds of the air. Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.” “Surely not, Lord!” Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.” The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.” This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven.
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You may certainly choose to eat what you like. But, neither are you to judge those who eat differently, right?
 
po18guy said:
You are absolutely right! I will no longer callously disregard the dignity of bacteria by washing my hands. After all, they are God’s creation and are ALIVE. I will drive at no more than 1 MPH, since I don’t want my windshield to slaughter innocent mosquitoes that are carrying equally innocent bacteria!

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😃

we humans… we are SUCH murderers!!! I:mad: IT’s just awful…😦

it is one thing to kill our own kind… that’s understandable… we are loathsome creatures, even in the womb…

but all these poor, innocent animals and bugs… 😦

I wonder how many years in Purgatory we will have to endure to atone for all this…??

frightening… absolutely frightening… :eek:
 
po18guy said:
You are absolutely right! I will no longer callously disregard the dignity of bacteria by washing my hands. After all, they are God’s creation and are ALIVE. I will drive at no more than 1 MPH, since I don’t want my windshield to slaughter innocent mosquitoes that are carrying equally innocent bacteria!

OK, so how do you square your private opinion with scripture, which is inspired by God?

You may certainly choose to eat what you like. But, neither are you to judge those who eat differently, right?
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we are judging the stewardship of the animals, the pollution, disease, and other problems of factory farming and wondering how anyone can support that in good conscience as a catholic.

i’m sorry if you feel judged personally, but rather than just say people are being elite and judgemental like some posters are, you could take a little time to understand the issues we are discussing here. some people don’t want to know what those issues are, they are just here to make noise. are you one of them? because i have put forth some questions about antibiotic resistance and pollution… that are not being responded to at all. what do you think of those things?
 
Cracker_Mom said:
We had some great grilled pork chops last night with butter beans cooked with smoked neckbones,And no food police watching-or preaching.😉
And we were lucky they were marked down 50 percent or we couldn’t have afforded them.
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food police???

Shhhhh… (don’t give them any ideas!!) :frighten:
 
po18guy said:
But, seriously, you see very few omnivores berating, belittling or acting in a condescending manner toward vegans. The reverse is, sadly, not true. Like all elitism, it stinks.
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so true…

just goes to show what not eating meat can do to a person… 😃
 
cathybramble said:
we are judging the stewardship of the animals, the pollution, disease, and other problems of factory farming and wondering how anyone can support that in good conscience as a catholic.

i’m sorry if you feel judged personally, but rather than just say people are being elite and judgemental like some posters are, you could take a little time to understand the issues we are discussing here. some people don’t want to know what those issues are, they are just here to make noise. are you one of them? because i have put forth some questions about antibiotic resistance and pollution… that are not being responded to at all. what do you think of those things?
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when the unborn and all humans are respected and treated wtih dignity, i will then consider turning my attention to animals
 
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