will do… you know i looked into nonviolence.org really quick, and i don’t think they support anything that is against the church. i’m sure someone will find something against them so they can ignore everything they say, but if there is, i couldn’t find it.
Perhaps I was unclear when I said “made by Hitler”. I mean “made” as in made by the people who ended up as slaver labourers because of his regime. People expect me to feel guilty of about eating food that was allegedly produced by child labor yet you won’t feel guilty if the thing you’re using to toast your bread was made by oppressed hands? As for the video cam, the same can be said. You’re holding something that was used to produce money via the most depraved form of entertainment possible. Even I would find that awkward.
Age doesn’t change how a product was made and what methods/materials were used to make it. Neither does the fact of them being unable to perpetuate anything change what they were used for. The point is, you’re holding something that has a seriously dark history.
Actually I would, but not before reporting the slaughterhouse to the nearest NGO. However, unlike the products I’ve mentioned, when I buy meat it doesn’t even have any labels on it so how would you expect me to determine if it was made by child labor? Marketplaces here add even more to the variety because theirs probably comes straight from the farm. You see? It’s pointless trying to make me feel guilty when each piece of meat I might I buy could come from one slaughter house and then another. I can have my meat cut by an American or a Mexican, but it doesn’t change the meat you know.
You know this reminds me of that thread telling people to boycott Microsoft because Bill Gates donated to Planned Parenthood. Am I going to overhaul the Operating Systems of all 10-15 computers here in my internet cafe just because of that? -.-;; Sorry, no can do.
I did not join this to be disruptive.
Logistics.?
You know Marfran, I have been part of these forums for MANY years. I do not have “friends” on the forum either (what exactly is the point of that???) To be more “popular”? Let people be. Like I said earlier, those who put down meat eaters to make themselves appear “morally superior” are guilty of vanity, IMO. Let people be.
oh come on… what’s wrong with ubuntu?
So? If you don’t want to eat meat, DON"T EAT IT!! But don’t you DARE get on your high horse and tell anyone else they can’t or shouldn’t! I may not personally care for many things you eat or wear, but you don’t see me trying to dictate to you what you should or should not consume or use! That, my friend, is called personal freedom of choice.
Yeah.
it’s funny, that’s what the anti-life crowd tells me when i say abortion is wrong.
What on earth does the number of “friends” one has on one’s profile have do do with anything??? I think if you take the time to read my past posts, you will find them respectful, sincere, generally well-thought out and well written, and often pithy, if not correct.
we have made many cogent arguments that illustrate our pointS. we have linked to other videos and other sources. the truth is, there are no sources of truth good enough for some people, and they will come in here bickering and telling us how we don’t care about the unborn and what an unworthy discussion this is, and why we shouldn’t tell people what to do, when we aren’t even doing that.OK, I’m referring this thread to the mods, in case they haven’t seen it. The amount of uncharitable sniping that’s going on here (from both sides, but primarily from those who have an agenda of one sort or another) is getting ridiculous.
For crying out loud, “You don’t have any friends here? Don’t you like people?”
And to answer those who are upset about people turning this into a meat debate:
If you make a cogent argument that illustrates your point instead of suggesting that people go track down a propaganda video (to which you didn’t provide a link, I might add), you might get the discussion you want. In any case, I apologize for misreading the topic of this thread; I’m done with it now.
Peace,
Dante
let us know when you have that quadruple bypass surgery so we can add you to mass intentions for healing. now stop baiting us and find a topic where you have something constructive or useful to say.
yeah, really funny you guys are! not. That has far more to do with genetics than with what someone eats.
Those who put down meatfree people to make themselves appear “morally superior” are guilty of vanity. Let people be. Catholic90: I was not referring to you when I brought up the issue of friends. I brought it up because certain individuals in these discussions, NOT YOU, have made statements about how we should not spend time on animals and that we should only focus on people, and that we should only care about people and that **they **care about people, people, people, and they love people, people, people–yet these very people are not people-persons (as would be evidenced by having at least a friend or two–you don’t have to be popular to have a friend–you just have to care about people and extend your hand to them). So Catholic90–won’t you be my friend?? I am asking right out loud in public. I thought I already extended my hand to you. But I’ll do it again. I don’t just like animals. I like people too. And I even like people who behave like animals, NOT YOU C90. P.S. Catholic90: Legally YOU are my friend!!! Are you aware of that???
your family’s history is anecdotal at best, but you are of course entitled to believe whatever you like.