Another man dies in police custody after disturbing video

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Horton said:
Typical liberal, twisting words to make them sound bad, because certainly all conservatives are bad. I will try to explain this as plainly as I can. You and I were discussing what Kaepernick did as evidenced below:
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One of the things I absolutely dislike about some people at CAF is their insistence to label people so they can insult them. I am not a liberal, and anyone paying attention here knows that.

With that, I’m done. I don’t engage with such people. Have a nice evening.
 
Victoria33 said:
It’s very alarming to see this used as a racial issue.

Police kill more whites.
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Not if you figure as a proportion of their population.
Black police officers have been involved in these shootings, no matter who the suspect/victim is or their color.
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They have, and once again there is difference in how those officers are treated. When Mohamed Noor, a black police officer, shot white Justine Ruszczyk Damond in Minneapolis, he was charged and convicted of murder. No white police officer in recent memory has been convicted of murdering a black while on duty. Maybe this case will be the first. But the statistics up until now tell of a bias somewhere in the system.
This is all just emotionalism and I’m sick of it.
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Seeing someone die unjustly is emotional. But it is those very emotions that prompt change. We would still have slavery in the US if someone didn’t get emotional over that injustice.
Who kills the most black young males?
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Irrelevant. That fact that young black males die in one manner is no excuse for the police killing them in another manner.
I’m just as alarmed at crime in the city, not just when it is a white police officer that has done something.
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Being upset at the actions of this police officer does not preclude being upset about other things, such as crime.
Things like this have never happened to a white person?
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As a proportion of the population, it happens more rarely.
 
I would be interested to see that video, but the post to which you are referring seems to have disappeared. I am also curious because I want to hear her accent! Do you mean she isn’t American? Without having seen the video, I have no idea who the woman is. I am an African American woman, and I’ve never heard before that you can tell whether somebody’s ancestors were slaves based on their accent. I also didn’t know that black Americans who are not descended from slaves are not considered African American. Or are you not talking about Americans at all? I know that there are people on this forum who are not American! But, without seeing the video, I am at a loss. If the woman you are talking about is actually from Africa (and is not Liberian), I guess there is a high probability that her ancestors were not enslaved - at any rate not by white folks. If she is from the Caribbean, her ancestors probably were enslaved.
 
Boatswain2PA said:
This response is just as intelligent as Kaepernick’s kneeling for the National Anthem.
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When kneeling doesn’t work you resort to other methods. Since a lot of white people value a Target or Autozone store more highly than a black person’s life it’s a very effective way to bring attention to the issue.
pnewton said:
Looting kind of belies the narrative that black men are afraid of being shot, as that is one sure way of increasing the odds or being legitimately shot and killed.
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What kind of sick freak shoots someone for looting?
 
No idea why this video was removed. This is a Catholic woman speaking on this important issue. It’s 3 minutes long.
 
Balto1 said:
Since a lot of white people value a Target or Autozone store more highly than a black person’s life i
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Can you please name one white person who feels this way?
Not one of my friends do.
 
Also Don Johnson is the one interviewing her. He’s Catholic and has stuff published by Catholic Answers. No reason this video should be removed.
 
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Rubee said:
I too, am Black, and like this lady, not an African American (I.e. she’s not a decendant of the people who were brought into the U.S as slaves); I can tell from her accent. She describes EXACTLY the same shock and disappointment I felt whenever I read reactions by people calling themselves orthodox Catholics to the shooting incidents. I know protestants with a similar background who felt likewise disappointed by their American Evangelical co-religionists. This is what primarily turned me from being a conservative to an “it depends on exactly what issue we discussing” politics. I then discovered that besides the pro-life stance on abortion, there’s very little I agree with on the right when it comes to other issues. I will not join the Democrats because of the abortion issue; but neither can I be Republican. I was happy to listen to her. Thank you for the video.
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No problem. I reposted it since a mod felt it needed to be removed. No idea why that would be?
 
I heard on the radio, that they are waiting for a death certificate before being able to press charges

I suspect that tha cause of death will be asphyxiation though there may well be a certain terminology that is used. Maybe that will be out soon.

I believe there are a fair number of deaths related to incarceration. I know of a few cases I may post later and about a sheriff who was sued over this.

I would be careful to call something murder. The law has a number of gradations.
 
Looting is destroying someone else’s personal property. It can very well result in shooting, and perhaps should. You are correct that it draws attention to the White community. But it draws attention in a negative way by showing how lawless Blacks are that they have no respect for another’s property and livelihood. Of course it would be a mistake to blame the whole Black community for the lawlessness of a few. But a lot of the White community, who border on prejudiced attitudes toward Blacks to begin with, do not see it that way. They will blame all Blacks and further separate themselves from their cause.

At the same time, the police officers who committed the heinous crime should be held responsible for their behavior. But that should take place in a court of law, not in the streets like the riots of the late 1960’s, which only served to divide the nation racially even more than it already was. Peaceful protest, yes indeed; violence for ANY cause, never. MLK did more by nonviolent means for the Black community and the whole nation than any violent protester ever did.
 
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StudentMI said:
That doesn’t answer my question.
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You didn’t really ask a question; you made a rhetorical statement. “Isn’t it true Trump never served in the military?” That’s not a question.
 
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Nepperhan said:
You didn’t really ask a question; you made a rhetorical statement. “Isn’t it true Trump never served in the military?” That’s not a question.
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There’s two ways you could know I asked a rhetorical question. One is by my vocal tone, which can not be transmitted by text. The second is by mind reading, which I don’t believe you are capable of. Therefore I’m forced to conclude you simply didn’t like my question.
 
StudentMI said:
There’s two ways you could know I asked a rhetorical question. One is by my vocal tone, which can not be transmitted by text. The second is by mind reading, which I don’t believe you are capable of. Therefore I’m forced to conclude you simply didn’t like my question.
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It wasn’t a question which merited an answer and I addressed it. What more do you want?
 
Nepperhan said:
It wasn’t a question which merited an answer and I addressed it. What more do you want?
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To not attribute to me a rhetorical statement that I didn’t make simply because you didn’t like my question.
 
Seek into what?

You don’t like a question so it’s rhetorical, therefore no answer is necessary. Your word games don’t change the facts about interracial crime.
 
Balto1 said:
What kind of sick freak shoots someone for looting?
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What kind of sick freak loots, especially in a crisis?

But to answer your question, store owners whose livelihood depends on not being robbed can, and do, shoot people for such things, as do homeowners and others. In most cases, it is legal to defend your property from criminals using deadly force, as their breaking in is considered a threat.

I can’t believe someone would defend looters. These type of people perpetuate black stereotypes as violent criminals. Using this man’s death to engage in opportunistic crimes of personal gain is pretty darn as low as you can get. Rioting may be the language of the unheard, but stealing stuff is most definitely not.
 
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