Another man dies in police custody after disturbing video

[meltzerboy2]

This is a great history lesson which all White and Black people should be made aware of. I wonder how many looters and arsonists, both White and Black, who are burning police precincts and Target stores, know about the ugly racist history of their own city. The rage and violence over the killing of George Floyd is certainly understandable, particularly among the youth, and based on a continuous pattern of police brutality against Black people over the course of many years across the United States. All I am saying, however, is that violence breeds violence no matter the justness of the cause. It draws attention to the plight of oppressed people but it does not solve the injustices they suffer. Only the governmental institutions and its people can do that by working tirelessly through legal, political, non-violent channels to change the structural, systemic racism that perpetuates these injustices.

 

[StudentMI]

Maybe I do. But I checked and it appears you are in error.

The riot scene. He shouts it at Raheem when he pulls the baseball bat out.

I don’t care about the thread. I detest Spike Lee’s films and views. Black people can’t be racist according to him. Not to mention his filming the pornographic nude scenes with a crying woman.

 

[Wampa]

To the many variants of the question “How does rioting help the cause?” I will add that the people looting and rioting in the middle of the night are largely not the legitimate protesters. The looting and rioting seem to me to be driven by two forces that are separate from the mass of legitimate protesters:

• common criminals who have realized that this is a chance for free stuff as the police can’t stop looting
• agitators coming in from out-of-town looking to create chaos

I’m basing this assessment on loads of video I’ve watched from our local media, a quote from the head of our National Guard (who noted that the legitimate protesters weren’t the ones out at 3am), the St. Paul mayor and the governor (who have referenced that people are coming in from out of town), and a news reporter in Ferguson, MO who reported that protestors were traveling from Ferguson to the Twin Cities.

 

[Victoria33]

Yes, I heard much of the news conference this morning.

The National Guard is in position now to more of an extent

A whole police precinct , #3, was burnt down. Lots of destruction.

All 24 Target Twin Cities area stores closed until further notice, I mean this is serious. What if they tried to do this to Walmart?

 

[Nepperhan]

Black people can’t be racist according to him. Not to mention his filming the pornographic nude scenes with a crying woman.

Actually, Spike never said anything near that. Also, Rosie Perez showed up at the 25th anniversary celebration of the film, if it matters. In her autobiography she basically says: “I was under contract. Its over.”

From what I have seen of your posts as to the film, you have your own version of events, instead of what actually happened. Radio Raheem was dead before the riot scene so I doubt that anything was shouted at him.

 

[meltzerboy2]

I have also heard on the media that there were some “professional” arsonists and anarchists in the group. Those are the ones, White and Black, who generally take to violence to further their own agenda. In a mob situation, though, others who are sincerely repulsed by the killing of George Floyd, might join in, because the emotions of the moment rule and reason takes a back seat in these circumstances. At least many of the protesters were wearing masks; that’s a plus. But when agitators mix with sincere protestors, the consequences are often deadly. That is why the violence must be stopped and the legitimate grievances be addressed by actions, not only words.

 

[Boatswain2PA]

maybe when we remove some injustice we make a society more just?

Sure.

Kap hasn’t done this. He has just divided us while making $5 MILLION a year.

 

[RobertAdams]

Was the American revolution “insidious”?

 

[Nepperhan]

Kap hasn’t done this. He has just divided us while making $5 MILLION a year.

As they would say in the Chicago school of economics, "and how much money did he forego by not having a job’?

You are irrelevant in your statement.

 

[meltzerboy2]

By this logic, in order to solve the problems of institutional racism, we need nothing less than a second American revolution and a new Constitution. Do you believe we should go that extra step beyond what even Bernie Sanders proposes? Should the extreme left join the extreme right and raze the present government to the ground to begin anew?

 

[Funvod]

Honestly, if I was alive at the time, I probably would have condemned it.

But what’s done is done, for better or worse. Nothing any of us can do about it now.

 

[StudentMI]

From what I have seen of your posts as to the film, you have your own version of events, instead of what actually happened.

You should know what I’m speaking of if you know the film so well. I’ll say it one last time. Look up the scene at the end where Raheem and the other guy enter the pizzeria and Sal pulls out the baseball bat. He shouts the n word at him. You know what I’m talking about and your attempts to defend a movie like that are misguided. Whatever the actress said the scene shows her naked having ice rubbed all over her body while offscreen she was crying. You know this. And yes, Spike Lee said black people can’t be racist. I’m done with this conversation. His views and films are trash.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

Good news! The police office, Derek Chauvin, has been arrested for the murder of George Floyd. I hope this will calm the city a little. (It is my city.)

 

[Rubee]

Good news! The police office, Derek Chauvin, has been arrested for the murder of George Floyd. I hope this will calm the city a little. (It is my city.)

I have a feeling if he had been arrested right away, the riots might not have happened.

 

[Victoria33]

That main police officer, Derek Chavin (? spelling) has been taken into custody by the BCR, Bureau of Criminal Investigation. Also, this is all on NPR, the reporter said there might be some things, obviously, that we do not know. Possible curfew may be announced this afternoon.

 

[Dr_Meinheimer]

I don’t see a lot of masks or social distancing with the rioters, which seems to go undiscussed, unlike the comments I see made on this board and others about people on boardwalks and beaches. Odd, given we are in a serious pandemic.

 

[0Scarlett_nidiyilii]

So what can we, as ordinary citizens, do about this?

 

[Victoria33]

Not if you figure as a proportion of their population.

At least one is looking at statistics.

They have, and once again there is difference in how those officers are treated. When Mohamed Noor, a black police officer, shot white Justine Ruszczyk Damond in Minneapolis, he was charged and convicted of murder. No white police officer in recent memory has been convicted of murdering a black while on duty. Maybe this case will be the first. But the statistics up until now tell of a bias somewhere in the system.

I don’t see any bias and Noor is also largely looked at as being Somali, the first Somali Police Officer. As far as calling Somalis blacks, often they are counted as a sort of subset.

I also don’t see a bias, these people were tried by the system and given a fair trial.

As for the shooting of Philando Castille, a Hispanic officer is the one who apparently did the shooting.

Killing of Philando Castile - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Irrelevant. That fact that young black males die in one manner is no excuse for the police killing them in another manner.

It’s relevant as can be. All of these statistics are relevant, populations of prisons, who commits the most crimes and so on. Saying it’s irrelevant is just a deflection. There should be just as much outrage over one murder as another.

 

[Boatswain2PA]

The first, and bigger point was that Kap has not succeeded in actually fixing anything with our race relations. Nothing. At all.

Instead he has further divided us Americans.

And he is being paid $5 MIllion a year to do it.

 

[Regular_Atheist]

They should probably wear masks anyway, with or without a pandemic.