Anti-gay message in Catholic parish bulletin sparks outrage

[Usige]

It is becoming more and more difficult for priests to speak out against anything. On one hand you have those asking priests to speak up on moral issues and then something like this happens, a priest speaks up and people get upset and smack at him. Our priests are going to need a lot of prayers today because what they are going to need to be saying to us is not going to be popular with the culture.

That is unfortunately true. People only want to hear the clergy speak up on moral issues they agree with; those things other people need to hear, but …

Take on any subject where society continues to move further and further from Catholic moral teaching and you are guaranteed to get skewered. One thing we were told in a homiletics class was that if we touch (even tangentially) on homosexuality, abortion, premarital sex, birth control, divorce, guns (either pro or against), or any of a host of other hot button topics, that we should have a copy of the homily ready because the bishop will receive angry complaints. Luckily our bishop would want a copy so that they can explain to the caller where the given cleric is correct, but still is disheartening that people have to complain about hearing the truth.

 

[MagdalenaRita]

that we should have a copy of the homily ready because the bishop will receive angry complaints. Luckily our bishop would want a copy so that they can explain to the caller where the given cleric is correct

Interesting. I am glad that they are doing that, asking priests and deacons to keep copies of the homilies. That is such a good idea and a needed protection today.

 

[CTBcin]

One can attend a function with sinners where people are sinning and not be there for the sin.

The point of gay pride parades in their very nature is to promote sin, which makes them intrinsically different from a St. Patrick’s Day parade or Marti Gras.

 

[Mark121359]

This reminds me of the reaction given to one Sr. Jane Dominic Laurel some years back, when she delivered a lecture on homosexuality at Charlotte Catholic High School. Parents and students alike were enraged, and demanded nothing short of this good sister’s hide!!!

The persecution of Sister Jane Dominic Laurel - LifeSite

The gospel of tolerance has now resulted in the removal of a faithful nun from public view.

www.google.com

 

[TheLittleLady]

No, the nature of these parades is for people who are hated, reviled, bullied, tormented, discriminated against to have one festival where they can not worry about being treated as a leper.

 

[Babaganoush]

A mass is a mass too, so participation in a satanic mass is perfectly fine right?

 

[PetraG]

While the priest didn’t really expand on what he meant by “lead them away”, I think jumping to the conclusion that he’s claiming homosexuality is “learned” is unfair. He could just be pointing out that the children may think what is going on at the parade is a celebration of what’s good. Obviously, that would be a bad message to send them.

Agreed. Having said that, I would not be surprised if that were the implication that was drawn.

No, the nature of these parades is for people who are hated, reviled, bullied, tormented, discriminated against to have one festival where they can not worry about being treated as a leper.

It is really hard to say what the parades are about. I don’t think that a group of homosexuals who say they believe the moral course for them is abstinence from what homosexual inclinations will incline one to do would be welcome, however. In that sense, saying that a parade that would not welcome an expression of Christian morals is the kind that would promote a culture and encourage activities that are contrary to Christian faith and morals isn’t unfair.

The message that people who have this inclination aren’t defective people but that the inclination that defines them as a group holding a parade is contrary to moral law is a difficult message to articulate. It is a delicate situation, not least because statements against immoral acts have too often lead to deeply immoral actions taken against the persons who have those inclinations. It’s extremely important to avoid giving any encouragement to destructive distortions of the truth of that nature, too.

 

[Usige]

I was thinking the same thing, @(name removed by moderator). If it is truly just a place for those who struggle or encounter strife because of SSA to support each other, then you’d think groups like Courage would be welcomed with open arms. To the best of my knowledge most LGBTQ groups loath Courage and I would be highly surprised if they were embraced as part of the ‘family’.

 

[Babaganoush]

It’s got nothing to do with what people happen to be doing at the parade. It’s about the purpose of the parade. What does the parade mean? A parade isn’t just a parade. Would you attend a march in support of abortion? After all a march is just a march.

 

[Babaganoush]

Sorry I misinterpreted you. Too quick to respond, I’m not reading carefully.

 

[JMMJ]

The gay people I know (and many who participate in Pride Parades) would not have any issue with this. They want people to be allowed to be who they are, with regards to their sexuality, whatever that means. What matters to them is that all are respected, regardless of how they choose to live. It is about respecting people and not make judgements based on who they choose to love. There are always fringe people who attend. These are the ones that many people think are “over the top”. But you will get that at any parade.

Truthfully, the people who organize the parade are the ones who get to say what its purpose is. The ones I have gone to are intended, by the organizers, to promote inclusivity in the community and acceptance of everyone even though they may be very different from each other.

 

[TheLittleLady]

Comparing a parade to Satanism? I’m not going to play that game

 

[esieffe]

Interesting. I am glad that they are doing that, asking priests and deacons to keep copies of the homilies. That is such a good idea and a needed protection today.

The homilies at our church are broadcast onto the internet in real time, as well being recorded, archived and replayed on demand by anyone. Are not most masses broadcast this way these days?

 

[MagdalenaRita]

The homilies at our church are broadcast onto the internet in real time, as well being recorded, archived and replayed on demand by anyone. Are not most masses broadcast this way these days?

Recording a homily is a good idea also.

I live out in the middle of the country, in the midwest, attend a small parish with an already questionable sound system. We do not get anything recorded but I think it is a good idea.

 

[MarthaSo]

Do they accept everyone? Or does their inclusivity parade exclude others? Do they, as you put it, respect others, generally, like Catholics who live their lives including their faith differently than they? Are Catholics included in that respect based on how they choose to live? Or do they generally make a judgment about Catholics based on their choice to believe the tenets of their faith? Even the respectful ones.

 

[Babaganoush]

It isn’t a metaphor or similitude. It’s your own logic. I was using your own logic in an extreme form to show how nonsensical it is. The same argument can be used in multiple ways.

 

[Horton]

No, the nature of these parades is for people who are hated, reviled, bullied, tormented, discriminated against to have one festival where they can not worry about being treated as a leper.

The nature of these parades is to flaunt and expose main street communities to anti-Christian, anti-Catholic, anti-God sexual behavior. It is to celebrate the ideology that one can make their own rules and live by those rules with absolutely zero consequences.

This isn’t about respect for those who have sexual attractions different than our own, it isn’t about a desire for rights they don’t have, (they have every right all American citizens have) it’s about shoving their sick & depraved sexual lifestyle down our throats then crying foul when we say we don’t want it.

None of these public comments from Church leaders have been about hate, they have been about loving our children and our faith.

 

[TheLittleLady]

I don’t think that a group of homosexuals who say they believe the moral course for them is abstinence from what homosexual inclinations will incline one to do would be welcome,

Maybe it is worth asking your local Courage group if they have thought of setting up a booth at your local pride event?

To the best of my knowledge most LGBTQ groups loath Courage and I would be highly surprised if they were embraced as part of the ‘family

Actually, I know Christian groups who organize to go to Pride events, some to simply give away bottles of cold water in the Name of Jesus.

One man I know buys copies of the Gospel of John bound as a single book and gives it away at festivals including pride festivals. He has done this for decades.

You might want to call the organizers, call and ask if you can set up a booth, on the other hand, thanks to some very ugly faces of Christianity, there may be some bridges that need to be built.

Christ told us to go out into the highways and the hedges, how can we be light to the world if we are afraid to get sinner juice on our shoes?

I think about the people who go into strip clubs to bring Jesus.

A parade isn’t just a parade. Would you attend a march in support of abortion? After all a march is just a march.

The reason that pride parades came to be is more than “let’s go have sex in the city streets!!”. I guess it is something that people who nave never been ridiculed, never mocked, never harassed, never bullied, never discriminated against, have never just for the way they look been in danger of violence, cannot understand.

We are called to be kind and to love people and to do good deeds. It is hard to do good deeds without meeting people where they are.

 

[Irishmom2]

It seems to me that anyone that stands up for Catholicism and what we believe, is automatically and without reason thrown into a group that is “hated, reviled, bullied, tormented and discriminated against.” People hear that you are Catholic and make false assumptions about how we interact with LGBT people. Just because someone is Catholic does not make them anti anything, except in the minds of those people that believe if you are not for them, you are against them.

 

[MagdalenaRita]

Actually, I know Christian groups who organize to go to Pride events, some to simply give away bottles of cold water in the Name of Jesus.

One man I know buys copies of the Gospel of John bound as a single book and gives it away at festivals including pride festivals. He has done this for decades.

You might want to call the organizers, call and ask if you can set up a booth, on the other hand, thanks to some very ugly faces of Christianity, there may be some bridges that need to be built.

Christ told us to go out into the highways and the hedges, how can we be light to the world if we are afraid to get sinner juice on our shoes?

It sounds as though these people are there to bring the gospel message to participants and hopefully bring people out of that lifestyle and in right relationship with Christ, which is different from attending the parade as a participant or even going out of curosity or support as many youth do.
If these Christian groups are there to support a homosexual lifestyle, they are not giving the true message of Jesus.
The only bridge we should be building is one tht brings people to Christ. A one way bridge.