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I didn’t read that in the quotes. Most were from activists who clearly didn’t like his slant on what he reported. They were victim blaming, saying the attack was OK, because of his horrible politics
Antifa Mob Viciously Assaults Journalist Andy Ngo at Portland Rally
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dvdjs
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Even before the courts. Is it ethical for bloggers and posters to propagate a claim that the shakes had cement in them, when no evidence forr this claim being true has been presented.
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dvdjs
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Brain damage? Where is that information coming from?
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Causing someone’s brain to bleed isn’t damage?
Is it ethical for blogger and posters to assert that Ngo was hoping to get a beating when no evidence for the claim has been presented?
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We’ve already went over this in this thread. Call it what you want, brain damage, brain hemmorhage, blood in the brain. The point is he was beaten bad enough to cause an injury to the brain as shown in a cat scan.
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I am asking people who are asserting this - what is the evidence?
Only is the assertion is true.
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Theo520
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Dan O’Sullivan has been published in Vice and Rolling Stone. He’s not a journalist
Nathan Bernard is also an ‘activist’ and doesn’t claim to be a journalist.
CJ Werleman is also an activist who writes columns in Middle East Eye, a site that wouldn’t load in my browser so I can’t evaluate it further.
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Where does one have to be published to be a “journalist”?
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Zach
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A cat scan showed brain hemmorhage. The victim stated this. There is no reason not to believe him. I’m sure if he’s lying it would be revealed.
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I don’t speak for anyone writing a post, but without conjecture I agree with him.
The collisions between the far right and the far left should be no surprise, condoned? NO, but surprising it is not.
Two extreme opposing ideologies meet. The results are no longer surprising, and within the aftermath of all of this the side that was offended insists the other side must be held to a higher standard, a standard they had insisted was lacking>>>sensibility, respect, and beneficial dialogue…No surprise here.
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I have also found no other source for this than the Ngo. I will wait until he, or the Portland police press charges to see what evidence the hospital provides.
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Thank you for expressing a very patient answer to another unnecessary question. The victim, Mr. Ngo, was clearly videod being beaten severely and a substance, a home made acidic concoction, thrown at his head, face and body. Videos of the “Antifa” thugs using coolers and bags of cement to create the weapon clearly identified their intent. Plus, they had cup containers with their own inspired logo printed on them!
The violence of these criminals has been well known to the City officials and the “stand down” order for police non-involvement is an act of participation in the attack. “What I have done and what I have failed to do” fits.
The violence of these criminals has been well known to the City officials and the “stand down” order for police non-involvement is an act of participation in the attack. “What I have done and what I have failed to do” fits.
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No, there is only one extreme party, and it’s on the left. What you call the far right is fairly centrist in their policies, just advocating for our rule of law.
ROFL, how on earth could you expect anything else?!?! The hospital can’t release his scans. Can you at least acknowledge he was beaten up and in the hospital?
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Is there any evidence for that? Sure he would be in hospital for longer?
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What about the Proud Boys, The Pittsburgh Synagogue shooter, the Dallas court house shooter, Atomwaffen, and the murderer of Heather Hayer? Are these not right-wing? These are only examples from the US too.
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The defense or more accurately the blatant mental gymnastics being applied to downplay this viscous attack is mind blowing.
Yet when Jusse Smollett came out with his allegations the usual suspects were all over that story,then crickets when it was exposed as a lie.
Yet when Jusse Smollett came out with his allegations the usual suspects were all over that story,then crickets when it was exposed as a lie.
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Most of your references were to people with mental health issues, who only represent themselves and the crimes they’ve committed. I’ve seen zero support for them…
I don’t know much about Proud Boys, what political policies are they advocating for, besides free speech? What is your objection?
Nothing you’ve offered ties to the GOP.
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A police report. An accompanying person from his organization. A lawyer bound by professional ethics.
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@dvdjs : Obama had his statement about “if they bring a knife to a fight, you bring a gun”, one could say that’s a call to violence as well.
Antifa has been accused of some things, in Minneapolis, of spitting and such, at people at a Trump rally and there is no shortage of videos showing them at rallies.
Let’s not forget the gunman who shot Rep. Steve Scalise and others or the gunman who went into the American Family organization.
Maxine Waters or Obama, I forget which, also have a statement about “getting in their face”, that’s pretty open to interpretation as well.
Yes, “Proud Boys” is some sort of group, actually, in NYC I believe, they were found to be largely the culprit of that incident. Gavin McGinness I believe is a known persona that the organization has had in the past at least.
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Portland has been a site of a number of confrontations. So, basically, this happens. I’d be hesitant to think one might say, “well, there might be some trouble there, so don’t go”, that’s when one wants to go and I think it should be documented just as their have been incidences in other places.
In a sense, are almost all of these people under 30? A lot of this is close to the way hooligans act. I’m not calling them, the same way as hooligans are or were in the past in England but the confrontations seem to be that way a bit.
Antifa has been accused of some things, in Minneapolis, of spitting and such, at people at a Trump rally and there is no shortage of videos showing them at rallies.
Let’s not forget the gunman who shot Rep. Steve Scalise and others or the gunman who went into the American Family organization.
Maxine Waters or Obama, I forget which, also have a statement about “getting in their face”, that’s pretty open to interpretation as well.
Yes, “Proud Boys” is some sort of group, actually, in NYC I believe, they were found to be largely the culprit of that incident. Gavin McGinness I believe is a known persona that the organization has had in the past at least.
Video appears to show members of far-right 'Proud Boys' group beating up anti-fascist protesters outside Republican club in NYC
Demonstrators gathered outside New York City's Metropolitan Republican Club Friday night to protest a speech by Gavin McInnes, leader of the far-right "Proud Boys" group. Multiple skirmishes broke out as the event was letting out.
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Portland has been a site of a number of confrontations. So, basically, this happens. I’d be hesitant to think one might say, “well, there might be some trouble there, so don’t go”, that’s when one wants to go and I think it should be documented just as their have been incidences in other places.
In a sense, are almost all of these people under 30? A lot of this is close to the way hooligans act. I’m not calling them, the same way as hooligans are or were in the past in England but the confrontations seem to be that way a bit.
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