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buffalo said:
Like i said hes an alarmist. i would like to see your proof that the Dave Matthews Band or Dave Matthews himself has outwardly claimed to be pro abortion.
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Like i said hes an alarmist. i would like to see your proof that the Dave Matthews Band or Dave Matthews himself has outwardly claimed to be pro abortion.
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buffalo said:
Just because planned parenthood is doing something at one of his concerts doesnt mean that he himself is supporting it. if i have a diet coke at his concert it doesnt make him Diet Cokes official sponsor. give me a break!
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what i wont be mislead by is the propaganda media who lies lies lies, i will take his word over there anyways. thats not what i started this thread for anyway. i like his music. i like what he stands for which is anti war, PRO LIFE, and unity. im so sick of alarmist activists like Kemper who blow EVERYTHING out of proportion. i am pro life all the way, however i have never read anything about him to make me think otherwise. so again i ask…wheres your proof?
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and by the way, other than his views on abortion, i was pushing for Kerry. the war needs to end, our boys need to come home. listen to American Baby. TRY at least to see it another way, straight from the artists mouth.
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wabrams
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Again, I don’t base my taste in music on politics. If it sounds good, I like it. If not, I don’t listen to it. BTW, I love how the author of the said they were far left liberals because they supported Kerry. Granted, Kerry isn’t a great reprosentative for moderate Democrats, but to label anyone a far left liberal becuase they supported their party is just crazy. It would be on par with ceasing to be a Republican in the early 50’s b/c of the extreme’s McCarthy went to.
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That was my point exactly! you know the old saying if you give em an inch they take a mile, if Dave said " I like Paper" they would conclude that he single handedly cuts down trees in the rainforrest for paper factories. COME ON NOW! and the guy that wrote about why he doesnt like dave and that they dont believe in God is a schmuck! not a single intelligent remark in his whole article, i hope he quits going to the concerts, i certainly wouldnt want him there killing my good time!
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buffalo said:
Hey, I once saw where Bush and Kerry posed together during the debates, so that MUST mean Bush is a liberal, or was it Kerry is a conservative? Either way, they must be 2 peas in a pod if they posed together.
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I used to like their music…until I got involved with politics and realized that DMB, along with 99.8 % of hollywood supports PP, abortion, homosexual marriage, etc…basically everything the Democratic party stands for…however these people use their popularity to speak on these subjects and people actually believe they know what they are talking about…most of these hollywood types don’t even have a high school education, but they speak as though they are definitive sources on National Security and INternational Politics…I am sorry, but my money is not going to support these bottom feeders…they make me sick…they also make sickening comments about our President and our Government…Granted, they will donate huge sums of money to help out with Tsunami’s, etc…but that is just for public recognition, so people will say “hey…these are great guys, pillars of the community” what a load of hog wash…TRUE CHARITY IS ANONYMOUS…I want to see them donate 1,000,000 anonymously…without public recognition…that is true charity and that is respectable…until that time (along with actually having some morality), DMB, along with Streisand, Paltrow, Short, Baldwin, Basinger, Robbins, Surandan, Springsteen, and all the other losers will get no monetary support from me. Sorry if I offend anyone.
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wabrams
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I thought the only reason Dave even looked in the direction of PP was their stance of preventing the spread of AIDS through condoms. I wouldn’t even go as far to say he supported them, but they do pop up a lot when other socail groups show up.
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dumspirospero
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I think time has proven that McCarthy wasn’t really all that far off with everytihing he did…I admire the man. We had countless Soviet spies in top level positions within our government (including our Nuke Program)…he knew it…and everyone else shrugged it off…THe man was right…when is anyone going to give him credit?
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wabrams
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Yeah, just like Microsoft, Johnson & Johnson, Wal Mart, etc. DOn’t gotta like their politics, but just buy the goods.
I agree that a lot of Hollywood runs their mouths a little more than they should.
Gotta hate free speach. If we could only get Limbaugh and Coultor to shut their traps, we’d be alright. I have a tendency to like Savage, Russert, and Scarborough a lot better.
Anyone who is in the spotlight, whether entertainment, industry, politics, etc is going to have a hard time donating anonymously. Don’t tell me for one minute that ANY politician anonymously donated money after 9/11. It was all over the news about politicians donating money, in both party’s.
With the exception of DMB, I can agree with you.
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wabrams
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So the end justifies the means? Ruin a ton of lives and smear anyone who questions you just to get a few people? Even going as far as to try and implicate a former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Secretary of State?
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dumspirospero
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First off…Limbaugh, Coulter, and Hannity tells it like it is…I love them and those are my 3 favorite…hands down. If there were more like them, this country would be a better place. But that is neither here nor there…
THe second thing is that politicians and stars are two totally different groups of people. 1st, stars live in a fantasy world…a utopia that doesn’t even exist for 99% of the rest of the world. 2nd, politicians are elected leaders of our government entrusted with the job of making sure the desires of their constituents are fulfilled. However…they can both be silenced. Let me ask you this: How do you silence a terrible, horrendous politician such as Tom Daschle? Answer: You don’t vote him back into office. In politics, if someone is a scumbag, we don’t give them votes, therefore they sink away into obscurity because they no longer hold office or wield any authority…This is very similar to musicians and movie stars…if they are scumbags…instead of not voting for them, don’t spend money on their products…eventually them and their lousy, dishonorable outlook on life, morals, and politics will fade away, because they will no longer have the money to be a major player…and they will wash out and be no-bodies once again. Right now the only reason why people listen to them at all is because they have a couple of albums that are played on the radio alot…big deal…Look at what happened to the Dixie Chicks…I was glad to see them fall flat on their butts…and I sure haven’t heard anything about them or from them since.
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THe second thing is that politicians and stars are two totally different groups of people. 1st, stars live in a fantasy world…a utopia that doesn’t even exist for 99% of the rest of the world. 2nd, politicians are elected leaders of our government entrusted with the job of making sure the desires of their constituents are fulfilled. However…they can both be silenced. Let me ask you this: How do you silence a terrible, horrendous politician such as Tom Daschle? Answer: You don’t vote him back into office. In politics, if someone is a scumbag, we don’t give them votes, therefore they sink away into obscurity because they no longer hold office or wield any authority…This is very similar to musicians and movie stars…if they are scumbags…instead of not voting for them, don’t spend money on their products…eventually them and their lousy, dishonorable outlook on life, morals, and politics will fade away, because they will no longer have the money to be a major player…and they will wash out and be no-bodies once again. Right now the only reason why people listen to them at all is because they have a couple of albums that are played on the radio alot…big deal…Look at what happened to the Dixie Chicks…I was glad to see them fall flat on their butts…and I sure haven’t heard anything about them or from them since.
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dumspirospero
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Who’s life and career did he smear and ruin, that didn’t end up being found out to be a soviet spy or collaborater?
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carol_marie
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Not so pro-environment when he visited Chicago & his tour bus dumped all their sewage in our river. That was a really crappy thing to do. (no pun intended).
They denied it like crazy until they were totally caught - pictures to prove it. They’ve since said they were sorry… and they’ve been made to pay up. I can’t help but think that they are pro-enviornment when they are in the spotlight but sludge dumpers when no one’s looking - (oh, besides the tourists in the boat down below)
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TarAshly
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OH PUHLEEZZEEE! Give me a break! you honestly think politicians are living in fantasy land!?! and they are out to protect OUR interests?!?! BULL! they are out to line their own pockets! and you like Limbaugh i like Dave, thats neither here nor there. you can SILENT someone just because you dont like what they have to say. if you dont like that talk to those oh so "trust"worthy politicians to get rid of that pesky little freedom of speech thing. they would do it trust me. it would save them a lot of trouble.
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can we say paranoia?? again, what is this if you dont like what they have to say silence them! make them go away! lets have a society where everyone thinks, looks and feels alike! a lot less hassles that way! come on man, cant you even try and see it another way?
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So, uh, any Dave Matthews Band fans out there???
Let’s try to “re-rail” this thread.
Did you know that Dave Matthews was born in South Africa? And that his birthday is January 9th? (That’s my b-day too!)
Let’s try to “re-rail” this thread.
Did you know that Dave Matthews was born in South Africa? And that his birthday is January 9th? (That’s my b-day too!)
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carol marie:
They didnt do it. their bus driver did, they fired them. they paid three times the fines the court asked for to make up for it. they werent even on the bus when it happened. that would be like my friend crashing a car, i wasnt with her when she did it but because i knew her, im automatically attached to it…
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Thank you Stratus. i could feel my blood pressure rising!
yes i did now that, he also refers to his band mates as his superiors, he often says he doesnt feel worthy enough to play with them. they are great friends, all married, all parents. have you seen his daughters? they are beautiful, there is this one photo of him and his wife i love, shes looking so lovingly at him. they are such a nice family.
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