Any young earth creationists out there?

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Hugh_Farey said:
KJV Genesis 5: 1 and 2. “This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him; Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.”
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Over and over the Popes speak and the Church teaches the unity of Adam and Eve. They cannot be separated.
 
Are you being serious?
Never read Shakespeare in school? That gives you a taste of how much has changed in English with just a few centuries of linguistic evolution.
 
Part of the plan is to create the dice that are rolled. The dice being certain probabilities inherent in nature. While tectonic plates derive their existence from God, their behaviour, necessary for the formation of land masses, is the result of a myriad of factors which cannot be completely determined. That said, this is not outside of God’s will, which would have been the cause of such events as the parting of the red sea. Ultimately, as you say, it is part of the plan.

This is not to say that evolutionary theories are plausible. With life and we ourselves, we see new creations, new whole beings comprised of components, previously having been created, like atoms and molecules. No chance is at work here. Where randomness does play a role is in the emergence of genetic disorders. They weren’t in th original plan but are a consequence of original sin and the damage done to our relationship with God and His healing graces. This second chance at the destiny for which we were created was mad possible by the incarnation, death and resurrection of our Lord.
 
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I read the post differently, having to do with the evolution of language from grunts, hand gestures and facial expressions. Languages change, but they initially came into existence as part of the creation of mankind, tied in to our capacity to form ideas, to know things and to act on them as one being.
 
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twf said:
Are you being serious?

Never read Shakespeare in school? That gives you a taste of how much has changed in English with just a few centuries of linguistic evolution.
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We are discussing the origination of language.
 
I personally don’t discount the possibility that God had a direct hand in the creation of language. Once Adam and Eve were endowed with eternal souls, I certainly believe that there were certain supernatural gifts given to them directly by God. Perhaps that included more sophisticated language (as opposed to the grunts and hand gestures that apes are capable of). Regardless, language clearly evolves and in many ways resembles biological evolution…given enough time, completely new languages emerge.
 
twf said:
I personally don’t discount the possibility that God had a direct hand in the creation of language. Once Adam and Eve were endowed with eternal souls, I certainly believe that there were certain supernatural gifts given to them directly by God. Perhaps that included more sophisticated language (as opposed to the grunts and hand gestures that apes are capable of). Regardless, language clearly evolves and in many ways resembles biological evolution…given enough time, completely new languages emerge.
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Almost gave you a total thumbs up.

Some language experts claim that Aramaic was the original language that God spoke and gifted Adam with.

Isolation also contributes to language changes.
 
Hugh_Farey said:
Adam seems to be a plural noun. It is normally translated as people, mankind, humanity, or ‘man’ in its collective sense, and even when singularised, can usually be taken to refer to any one of a community rather than an individual. In some places, such as the “Adam and Eve” story, it appears to be treated as the proper name of an actual man, but in terms of the whole bible, this is an exception.
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It seems that you are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole here. The fact is that Jesus is the one true Vine and it is in Him that we individually and collectively come into communion within the Trinity. Adam does represent all humanity and it is thereby that we all fell as a result of his original sin. But as we are all individuals, whole in ourselves and as one Church in Love, so too was Adam. That is the nature of humanity to exist as a self in relation to what is other, an image of the Triune Godhead, complete when we give of ourselves for the good of the other. This existence had a beginning and it was one man, as we are each one person. Do away with Adam and one does away with oneself.
 
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buffalo said:
We are discussing the origination of language.
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No, we’re not! What ever gave you that idea?
buffalo said:
Language, codes and symbols are examples of design.
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Hugh_Farey said:
No! Languages, in particular, are very good analogies to evolution.
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buffalo said:
Prove language evolved.
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Hugh_Farey said:
A glance at the ‘genetic’ similarity of the European languages and their historic literature will reveal structures uncannily similar to those of biological evolution, including analogies with natural selection, speciation and even horizontal gene transfer.
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twf said:
Never read Shakespeare in school? That gives you a taste of how much has changed in English with just a few centuries of linguistic evolution.
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Was misrepresentation one of the more important modules of First Year Creationism at College? Is it part of the Tennessee School Curriculum? Is it preached from Creationist Pulpits?
 
A side note. Nikola Tesla is a largely unknown and very underappreciated inventor. The same free energy that causes electrons to spin around around the core of an atom can be tapped but since it can’t be monetized, it’s off the list.
 
edwest211 said:
Everything accidentally made everything.
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Yeah, everything accidentally became… unfit… then fit… then unfit… then fit… then unfit… then fit…for every plant and animal species on the planet…ridiculous.
 
Well, of course not. We are living in an interrelated, highly complex biosystem. Certain insects make a secretion called honey which we can eat. No accident.
 
I think the insects would prefer we not eat it. Is our purpose therefore to steal the hard work of bees?
 
edwest211 said:
Well, of course not. We are living in an interrelated, highly complex biosystem. Certain insects make a secretion called honey which we can eat. No accident.
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Right, all the components of a food chain and ecosystem has to be in place right from the start for mother nature to work.
 
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