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How about instead of avoiding the beach just seek therapy to deal with your lust instead of overly restricting your life
 
I can manage my feelings just fine. Self control applies to interior and exterior actions. Demanding people behave in a certain way because otherwise you feel bad is absurd and self centered.
 
Lol. If you don’t want people to respond to what you say then don’t post on online forums
 
This is a profoundly wrong understanding of how the vast majority of men respond to temptation. They are visual! Please read the poster who said a “breeze” could put a lustful thought into his brain. Men are hardwired to respond to environmental stimuli with lustful suggestions that are already bad and uninvited. Those need to be thrown off immediately. Period!
 
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Its all the fault of the mirror. Stand in front and suck the gut in and…Hey I’m still in great shape for an old guy. I just keep forgetting that you can only suck the gut in for so long - then what happens is like someone pulling the inflate toggle on a liferaft. lol
 
This makes no sense. Men are not responsible for lustful suggestions! If you have 100 bad thoughts that are immediately thrown off, then there is no sin. Where did I say men could not control themselves. I am saying the opposite: they MUST “control” themselves, that is, throw off each of the thoughts that comes to mind as soon as they enter the mind! Then, there is no sin. The vast majority of men must practice custody of the eyes and flee from the near occasions of sin! Please read St. Alphonsus on the means necessary for salvation!
 
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My husband is not like this either.

In fact, for him, it is a woman’s intellect that gets him, he wouldn’t notice how she is dressed. If she starts talking about science or animals, he would go all “goo-goo eyed”.

Me, on the other hand, I am very visual. A man in a suit or uniform, or just in a nice fitting pair of jeans and a t-shirt, and I could be in big trouble. So, since I can’t not be around men who wear clothes, I have to practice custody of my own eyes.
Or should I start a new thread on how all men need to cover up with a potato sack to prevent women like me from falling into lust? 🤔😉:crazy_face:
 
Potato sacks. Good idea. Two or three sizes too large of course.
 
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Dude, he didn’t say anything about bad thoughts at all. He strictly mentioned exterior actions. I’d say your extensive discussion on the matter is a reflection of, maybe even a projection of, your own struggles with lust and resulting guilt…
 
What is sexually charged is highly dependent upon culture and personality. In cultured where women are covered up, sometimes a glance of the eyes can be highly provocative.

I’ll repeat, I am not an animal. I can manage physical and emotional responses, and I refuse to consider men automatic letches and women are succubi.
 
Who flagged your comment? People on here really need to get senses of humor…
 
One other thing

(1) just because the devil does not present lustful thoughts does not mean he will not spring one at you at the moment you are least expecting it. In which case, if you are not being vigilant, you may be separated from God through mortal sin and lose God forever if he does not pardon you.

(2) The devil will recognize he has little time left at the end of your life to secure your damnation. If you have not regularly practiced vigilance and custody of your eyes, and do not have this habit, how will save your soul on your deathbed when interior thoughts are all you are capable of performing, and the devil launches an all out assault of bad thoughts.

(3) 95 percent of young men have had premarital sex. 95 percent of young men have viewed pornography. Perhaps you are the rare exception, but most men are not the rare exception. They have stuggled with lust at some time in their lives.

I am giving advice that applies to the vast majority of guys.
 
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95 percent of young men have had premarital sex. 95 percent of young men have viewed pornographers. Perhaps you are the rare exception, but most men are not the rare exception. They have stuggled with lust at some time in their lives. I am giving advice that applies to the vast majority of guys.
Well, then that tells me that there are an awful lot of women who seem to be in the same boat.
Unless those 95% of men are having sex with each other.
 
How about teaching young boys and men to not treat every encounter with a woman as being laden with sexual connotations? This is the problem with this modesty discussion, underneath all the demands that women wear potato sacks is an inherent justification and acceptance of women as sexual objects whose bodies must be hidden because men are little more than genitalia with limbs when women are around.
 
I disagree with this profoundly!

While there are some cultures that the men would be more sensitive to stimuli than in other cultures, say if you have never seen a woman’s ankles before and you see one for the first time.

On the other hand, some regions of the body provoke lustful thoughts in the great majority of men in all cultures because of how they are hardwired (yoga pants, etc).

Stop deceiving yourself. Culture does not undo millions of years of evolutionary hardwiring.
 
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“some cultures”? A friend of mine lived in China and guys are guys.
 
men can commit so many mortal sins that they cannot count the number of sins that they committed the next time that they go to confession.
You are severely exaggerating and blowing this issue out of proportion.
we must be vigilant and flee from the near occasions of sin. Flee from what puts these bad thoughts into the mind.
You cannot run away from every problem. People are capable of self control!
The vast majority of men must practice custody of the eyes
Actually, both Men and Women must practice this.
you may be separated from God through mortal sin and lost forever of God does not pardon you.
Make an Act of Contrition and go to Confession as necessary.
how will save your soul on your deathbed when interior thoughts are all you are capable of performing, and the devil launches an all out assault of bad thoughts.
I shall receive the Last Rites and die in Peace.
95 percent of young men have had premarital sex.
Well, obviously, they didn’t achieve this statistic alone. 🤨
 
My argument has nothing to do whatsoever with what you are taught (but yes, we need to teach guys differently).

It has to do with evolution hardwiring the great majority of guys in a certain way for the perpetuation of the species.

It’s as simple as that!
 
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