Are there any Catholic theologions that fully understand the last book of the bible ?

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Mainly they differ on the interpretation of Revelations
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The reason is That THEY do not have the inspired word.and the do not follow the one rule god placed in the book of Revelation.
REV.22/18 THEY DO NOT KNOW OF THE SEVEN THUNDERS OF CHRIST.🤷
 
Jerry-Jet said:
Many followers of Jesus left Him in John 6:66 because they didn’t believe His teaching on the eucharist.

I don’t think that the fact that they left on that particular chapter in that particular verse is just coinicidence!
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I believe that as well. I have brought this up on several threads over the last year.
 
walt2000
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Re: Are there any Catholic theologians that fully understand the last book of the bible ?
Re.1-3 PROMISES things john seen
Promise Seven church of laodicea------------------ Re.3/4 A THRONE
Promise six church of Philadelphia-------------- Re.3/7 PROTECTION
Promise five church of Sardis------------ Re.3/1 CLOTHED IN WHITE
Promise four church of Thyatira------------------------- Re.2/18 POWER
Promise three church of Pergamas--------- Re.2/12 FORGIVENESS
Promise two church of Smyrna--------- Re.2/8 NO SECOND DEATH
Promise one church of Ephesus------ Re.2/1 LIFE EVER LASTING

I LIKE MY REWARD TO BE ON TOP
so I put my victory at the top. REMEMBER LOOK AT THE NUMERICS of the thing.
7 THRONE
6 MAN
5 WORD
4 EARTH
3 UNITY IN THE TRINITY
2 DIVINE PROTECTION
1 ONENESS,IN THE LIGHT
HAY GUYS WE WINNERS SEVEN TIMES A WINNER
this is a prologue to the seven thunders,then we win seven more times, then in the epilogue we win again.

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Re: Are there any Catholic theologians that fully understand the last book of the bible ?
THUNDER No.1 Re.6-8/3 Like I said I like to keep my Victory at the top The LAMB is able to open the SEALS, WHITE HORSE.

SEAL No. 7----------------------------------- silence in heaven.Christ wins

The sealed Re.7/17------------------ the sealed ones, in their for heads.

SEAL No.6 --------------------------------------------------------The no. of MAN
EARTH QUAKE look at the 6 th. trumpet,6 th.Promise
Re.6/12 look at the 6 th.Vial

SEAL No.5------------------------------------------------ The no. of the WORD
SOULS ARE GIVEN look at the 5 th.trumpet
WHITE ROBES look at the 5 th. Po mises
Re.6/9 look at the 5 th.Vial

SEAL No.4----------------------------------------------- The no. of the EARTH
PALE look at the 4 th. trumpet
HORSE look at the 4 th. Promise
Re.6/7 look at the 4 th.Vial

SEAL No.3 ---------------------------------------The no. of the WITNESSES
BLACK Look at the 3 rd.trumpet
HORSE Look at the 3 rd. Promise
Re.6/5 Look at the 3 rd.Vial

SEAL No 2 --------------------------------------------the no. of DIFFERENCE
RED look at the 2 nd. trumpet
HORSE look at the 2 nd. Promise
Re.6/3 look at the 2 nd. Vial

SEAL No.1------------------------------------- the no. of the LIGHT CHRIST
WHITE look at the 1 st. trumpet WITH A
HORSE look at the 1 st. Promise CROWN
Re.6/1 look at the 1 st. Vial SACRIFICE

--------------SEVEN TIMES A WINNER THE 1st. THUNDER------------
------------------------------SIX MORE TO COME----------------------------------
walt2000
The LAMB is able to open the SEALS, WHITE HORSE, CHRIST
THIS IS A WINNER. NOT A LOSER
 
walt2000

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Re: Are there any Catholic theologians that fully understand the last book of the bible ?
I m not finished yet. a door opens between Re 3/7 and Re.3/14
this door is open John is transported Into the hereafter Re.4-5 in spirit.

Any way about me again.

Thirty five years ago, I made a big mistake,the biggest mistake I made in my life,some thing happened to me on a trip to Damascus no (just fooling and there is no vision of anybody, on the Alaskan highway either)
We,being ,the wife and two kids and a dog, pup tenting down the panhandle of Alaska .I asked the lord what the number 27072 meant I could not get It out of my head.
This started a process, that I wished I kept my mouth shut.I prayed asking to either tell me, or take this away.Sounds like a raving fool doesn’t it.Well The wife thought that I was going nuts,any way, to make a long story short ,being frustrated, as I was, a little girl came up to me and said that that looks like my fathers germatria ,I looked it up and need less to say the numbers explained them self .I was beside my self.Then the story starts.
I won’t bore you with the details,as it turned out I have the worst sleeping habit’s on this planet.
Sorry, but I,ll let you guys go for now.Boring ?
am I puting you guys to sleep?
 

--------------------------------THUNDER no.2 Re.8/4-11/19----------------------
------------------------------------ SEVEN TRUMPETS-----------------------------
Remember read this from the bottom up so we can keep the --------victory at the top.-----------------------------------------------------------------------​

TRUMPET NO.7 Re.11.15-----------------KINGDOOM IS THE LORDS
THE WITNESSES Re.10/11/13 THIS THUNDER EXPLAINS ---------
THUNDER NO.3-----see next thunder-------------------------------------------

TRUMPET NO.6 Re.9/14------------------------------THE GREAT RIVER​

TRUMPET NO.5 Re.19/4-------------PROTECTION OF THE SEALED​

TRUMPET NO.4 Re.8/12---------------------------SUN,MOON,SMITTEN​

TRUMPET NO. 3 Re.8/10---------------------WORMWOOD IN WATER​

TRUMPET NO.2 Re.8/8-----------------BURNING MOUNTAIN IS SEA​

TRUMPET NO.1 Re.8/7---------------HOLY CITY TREAD 1260 DAYS​

I HAVE GIVEN YOU THE SEVEN PROMISES AND TWO OF THE THUNDERS SO FAR ,DON’T YOU SEE A REPETITION OF EVENTS FORMING ,EVERY THING REPEATS IT SELF.OVER AND OVER.AND OVER AGAIN.
.KEEP THESE AND YOU CAN GLUE THESE SIDE BY SIDE. THE NEXT THUNDER WILL BE THUNDER NO.3 THE GREAT WITNESSES , THUNDER NO.3.----
. walt2000.KEEP A EYE ONE THE EVENTS SIDE BY SIDE---------------------LIKE PROM…NO.5-----------------------------GIVEN WHITE CLOTHS
LIKE SEALS…NO.5-----------------------------SOULS GIVEN ROBES
LIKE TRUMPET NO.5------------------------------PROTECTION OF THE SEALED,SEALED IN THEIR FOREHEADS ,NOT ON THEM.

THE NEXT WILL BE THUNDER NO.3 THE GREAT WITNESSES COMING OUT OF THE TRUMPETS ,TO BRACKET THAT AREA.,OR TO EMPHASIZE THE WITNESSES.JUST BEFORE THE COMING OF CHRIST… (Remember read this up to have the victory at the top) walt2000.
 
walt2000 said:
read Revelations 22/18
** I warn everyone who hears the words of this book**](Revelations).
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If anyone adds anything to them(in Revelations) ,God will add to him the plagues described in this book.(of Revelations)and if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy(of Revelations),god will take away from him his share in the tree of life, and in the holy city, which are described in this book. Doe’s that not bother any of you guys.Walt2000

No… it would only refer to the Book of Revelation.
 
walt2000 said:
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Re: Are there any Catholic theologians that fully understand the last book of the bible ?
I m not finished yet. a door opens between Re 3/7 and Re.3/14
this door is open John is transported Into the hereafter Re.4-5 in spirit.

Any way about me again.

Thirty five years ago, I made a big mistake,the biggest mistake I made in my life,some thing happened to me on a trip to Damascus no (just fooling and there is no vision of anybody, on the Alaskan highway either)
We,being ,the wife and two kids and a dog, pup tenting down the panhandle of Alaska .I asked the lord what the number 27072 meant I could not get It out of my head.
This started a process, that I wished I kept my mouth shut.I prayed asking to either tell me, or take this away.Sounds like a raving fool doesn’t it.Well The wife thought that I was going nuts,any way, to make a long story short ,being frustrated, as I was, a little girl came up to me and said that that looks like my fathers germatria ,I looked it up and need less to say the numbers explained them self .I was beside my self.Then the story starts.
I won’t bore you with the details,as it turned out I have the worst sleeping habit’s on this planet.
Sorry, but I,ll let you guys go for now.Boring ?
am I puting you guys to sleep?
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…Id just like to know what your posts are talking about…
 
Look at all my past postings ,on this thread.
It really is repetitious,and you notice ,you do not have to refer to any other books of the bible ,Rev.only ,Rev. states that you are forced to get all of your information .from Revelations and Revelations only,Christ actually says ,you will be doomed to the curses of this book, if you do.get out of the book,You can get help but, you have to get that help from staying inside the words of Revelations.And Revelations only, pretty clever I think ,and there is a good reason for it, Which when we go through it ,if we ever do, it will show you that it looks like God really did have a hand in this ,all the time. It could turn you to be a Christian if you are not.It is the proof every body is seeking.walt2000
 

----------------------------------THUNDER NO.3--------------------------------------
------------------------------TRINITY THUNDER 333=27------------------------
--------------------------------WITNESSES Re.10-11/13--------------------------​

  1. MAN GAVE GLORY TO GOD-------------------------------------------------
  1. EARTH QUAKE Re.11/13-------------------------------------------------------
  1. COME UP MY PEOPLE Re.11/12-------------------------------------------

4.GOD ENTERS WITNESSES Re.11/11--------------------------------------​

  1. BEAST WILL MAKE WAR Re.11/7-----------------------------------------
  1. WITNESSES WILL PROPHESY R.11/3-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1. HOLY CITY TREAD FOR 1260 DAYS Re.11/1--------------------------
(Remember this comes out of the thunder no.2 bracketing the witnesses)this has to do with the trinity people.FATHER,SON,AND HOLY SPIRIT HARVEST TIME CHRISTIANS. walt2000
Remember read up VICTORY IS TO THE TOP AND KEEP AN EYE ON THE NUMBERS 1 UNITY,2 UNITED,3 TRINITY,4 EARTH,5 WORD,6 NO. OF MAN,7 WHITE HORSE DIVINE,
these are winners with Christ.walt2000
 
walt2000 said:
The reason is That THEY do not have the inspired word.and the do not follow the one rule god placed in the book of Revelation.
REV.22/18 THEY DO NOT KNOW OF THE SEVEN THUNDERS OF CHRIST.🤷
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Do you have any idea of what was the point of view of the church fahters about revelations?

try to see who were the ones that changed the books point of view. the protestans or the church fahters?

america and even american catholics are influenciated by protestans.

and you my friend are acting like a protestant.

Go to the source of the church fathers and the saints, to see what they belived about revelations.
 
Tell me where I am acting like the Protestants,
They think that the pope is the anti Christ.you don’t think because you don,t understand revelations, that make 's me one? The church is brought up with the witnesses, Are you a Christian, if you are one you will go to meet the lord with the sealed ,at the wine press ,the blessed church.,the trinity church ,the Catholics give me a break,acting like the Protestants you don’t know how many prods. church’s threw me out because I did not believe that the pope was the anti Christ.how many versions of the end time story’s have you read?walt2000 give it a chance don’t judge with half the story.You have to be a new Christian to make a statement like that at this stage of the story.
 
Give me a little write up on your story.how long were you a Christian a catholic.how many years have you been studying the bible.walt2000
and about the prod’s they don’t know the **seven thunders ** I haven’t the chance to tell them yet.
 
walt2000 said:
Give me a little write up on your story.how long were you a Christian a catholic.how many years have you been studying the bible.walt2000
and about the prod’s they don’t know the **seven thunders ** I haven’t the chance to tell them yet.
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I shouldnt argue alot because many here might think I want to change your mind, or that I cant accept your point of view, I accept your point of view n respect it.

I have been chatolic all my life.
there are almost no protestans in my country nor any other religion.

I always try to be under the churchs point of view, I have read at least 3 or 4 bible comentarys and those catholic comentarys differ from your point of view. I have made tens of questions to apologists on EWTN about this issue. because some interpretatiosn about revelations are extremly divided even among catholics…, and that is weird because we are under one tradition.

So I dotn have a personal opinion I just try to be always under the church and not on my own.

On any cahtolic seminary on latin american priest are taught that revelations is not a book about nuclear bombs nor of a awfull book but that its a beautifull book, about hope, they claim that revelation had his time in history.

I have read plenty of comentarys and they agree that revelations had their time in history in the early centurys. and they point out that the predictions about the future start in revelation 20.

Everything before Revelations 20 is about a especific time in history. It has a liturgical language.

The commentarys say that the thousend years are a simbological number for when the devil will be unleashed.

therefore the trumprs the angels etc those things happened in the past on the time of the church fathers , as the church fathers said.

The trumpets n the angels n those things are just written in a compliaced liturgical language for us to get it.
 
Thanks for the write up I like to know who I’m talking to, and where they stand.I personally do not agree with some of their opinions . but you have to respect them.
Revelations is a book that is not open fully opened yet.It is a end of time thing ,and the little scroll that is sealed is now unsealed, Christ through the holy spirit is feeding it to the nations, it is easy to read ,but hard to digest.Keep your mind opened.To receive it.Christ said some will see, and not see, and some will hear, and not hear.
they are wright, it is a wonderful book, not to be hated.It is a book of victory, not defeat.
The commentary’s ,well ,they are well meaning but how can one comment on a subject that is in the end of time.when the The commentary’s has not yet happened.this is a book that is purposely vague so that people will not under stand until the second coming of Christ.walt2000
 

-----------------------------THUNDER NO.4-------------------------------------------
-----------------------------THE EARTH Re.12-15-----------------------------------
7. THE GRAPE VINTAGE Re.14/18--------------------------------------------​

  1. SON OF MAN WITH CLOUD Re.14/14------------------------------------
  1. THE BLESSED Re.14/13 CHRISTIAN’S-----------------------------------
  1. THREE ANGEL MESSENGERS, ARE THUNDER NO.5----------- (,WAIT) FOR IT, THE NEXT THUNDER THE WORD ON EARTH
  1. BEAST OUT OF THE EARTH Re.13/11—4=EARTH------------------
  1. BEAST OUT OF THE SEA Re.13/1-----------------------------------------
  1. THE DRAGON,THE WOMAN ,THE CHILD Re.12/1------------------
See how the numbers fit.in the right spot vertically,through out the other thunders . well when you line them up horizontally they also fit.and they start with a WHITE HORSE AND END WITH A WHITE HORSE.walt2000
 
Did I make that up ,or did Christ to John.Did I fit it in ,or did Christ to John.walt2000
 
tomorrow THE WORD THUNDER NO.5

LET ME FINISH BEFORE YOU SHOOT ME then I want you to prove me wrong with Scripture.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
walt2000
 
When you prove me wrong, it has to be out of Revelations no other book of the bible, It has to stay in Revelations Re.22/18 I left it in revelations and did not bring up any other book.
walt2000
 
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