Who are you to say that a protestant baptism is not good enough - our priest in RCIA does not say this or anything close to it. I will not have the “fullness of the faith”…?!
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Hi Brownjt. How are you?
Don’t attack! I did not say that**! What I actually did say was a “direct quote” from the CCC. The Catholic Church said it, and YOU misunderstood what was said! Reread it! Just because a priest in RCIA didn’t teach you that “some” Protestant baptisms aren’t considered valid might have been because no one asked him the question, and by everyones previous denomination he know the baptisms was valid? The church’s decision makes them valid!
**Do you realize, some Protestant denominations rebaptize everyone!. **Catholics never do that unless there is some reason to believe that the original baptism was invalid due to form or some other factor. We believe in “one” baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
I was baptised as protestant - as a baby - given no “spiritual” instruction until I listened to the baptists - heard wonderfully inspired preaching and got baptised again - immersion as an adult - and then appreciated it and understood in more…
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Your second baptism that you had was unnecessary **because you had no more “original sin” Baptism isn’t the correct sacrament for forgiveness of other sins that would be confession. You said that you “had a better appreciation and understood more” That means it gave you a “real nice feeling”. So what?
Your original sin had been forgiven as a baby.
Now you misread what I wrote attacking me but you didn’t object to your second baptism? Are you taking medications? Have you thought about checking to see if you might not need them?
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Even when a Baptism is redone by the Catholic church it is “conditionally” redone, with special wording.This is exactly what I quoted:
“Once a Christian, always a christian. Baptism, confirmation and Holy Order are the three sacraments that can only be received once** because they leave an indelible mark on the person’s soul. In case of doubt about whether a person has received one of these three sacraments, the sacrament may be administered conditionally”
I go to RCIA and find that it seems that many cathlolics use this as “an instruction book” instead of “an inspiration book” Your catechism is very very deep and moving - no wonder the Church uses the sacred traditiions as a basis for the faith.
We do it because Jesus told His church to do that! We only do what God tells us to do! We don’t just make our own rules like protestant denominations do! We follow Jesus!
But you must view the christian ideals and faith - which came before the Council of Trent in a spiritual and less dogmatic way.
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Who gave you the authority to say that? Where in the CCC does it say that? You are wrong! Who are you to say that? I say we must read it in a “dogmatic way” because that is exactly what it is! It is a dogma! We are not Protestants we are the “real” DOGMATIC church established by Jesus 2,000 years ago. In RCIA, you should be learning about the religion not trying to teach Power Catholics, who are “correctly” interpreting the teachings, what you think is correct with out knowledge to back it up. We quote Church teachings. We do not changing their interpretation to fit our previous thinking of Jesus and his church…**
So I guess we have the “chartered” members" (born and baptised catholics) and the “associate” members (converts)?
No we only have Catholics. Smart ones and Dumb ones, Educated and Ignorant ones, Nice ones and Arragant ones, Loving ones, and Hateful ones, Saved ones and Damned ones. Yup! Catholics are like every other human on the face of the earth. Humans attempting to follow God’s will. The secret is We are trying to follow the correct path that Jesus taught us. We have the HS to guide the Church and we have the church to teach us. Some of us just don’t know what the Church teaches but that can be taught.
Ridiculous!
**Yes you were but I forgive you! That is the christian thing to do!
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I guess you are going to imply that salvation is pased by blood and not spirit…
**I will not imply that. I will tell you exactly what Jesus said OK? **
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Jesus said, “Very truly, I tell you, **unless you ****eat the flesh of the Son of Man and
drink his blood, you have no life in you. **Those who **eat my flesh and **drink my blood **
have eternal life, and I will raise them up on the last day; for my flesh is true food and
my blood is true drink. Those who eat my flesh and
drink my blood abide in me, and I in them. Just as the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so whoever eats me will live because of me. This is the bread that came down from heaven, not like that which your ancestors ate, and they died. But the one who eats this bread will live forever.” He said these things while he was teaching in the synagogue at Capernaum. - John 6 53-59
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So I wont imply it I will tell you Salvation is passed by blood. The blood of our Lord and savior. Jesus Christ
you are in my prayers!
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**I could say that I miss read the OP but I didn’t.
It happens. I am only a humble follower of Christ!
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