Arguing About Abortion

[Hume]

But so is slavery, Walk!

You enslave the woman to achieve your end, thou tyrant!

 

[VanitasVanitatum]

But so is slavery, Walk!

You enslave the woman to achieve your end, thou tyrant!

So murder vs. slavery. I’m not sure you have the upperhand on this.

 

[Hume]

A fetus has no liberty.

 

[VanitasVanitatum]

A fetus has no liberty.

Then prove it.

 

[Walk-worthy]

“Collectives”! Who talks like this? This sounds like a Communism forum! I’m leaving this group! Sorry, but this isn’t my comfort zone!

 

[Hume]

It has no bodily autonomy. It depends on the woman.

It lacks the cognitive ability to Express free moral agency.

Done,

 

[Hume]

Bye walk!
Thanks for the chat!

 

[VanitasVanitatum]

It lacks the cognitive ability to Express free moral agency.

So a does a sleeping person.

It depends on the woman.

Dependency seems irrelevant.

It has no bodily autonomy.

I’m not sure if this a conclusion or an argument. But if it is an argument, it sounds more like an assertion.

 

[Walk-worthy]

Since when? Maybe in China, but in USA I would hope a fetus has liberty, through the parents!

 

[Stephen168]

But that is Hume’s ethic. There is no rational limit to his ‘freedom,’ so he is free to murder, rob, or enslave.

Liberty is the default state and we only constrain with good reason.

List some rational reasons to limit your tyranny

 

[Hume]

So a does a sleeping person.

Sure they do. They’re just asleep.

Dependency seems irrelevant.

Nay, it cannot act for itself.

 

[Hume]

Since when? Maybe in China, but in USA I would hope a fetus has liberty, through the parents!

Amen Walk.

And let’s hope mom chooses life.

 

[Walk-worthy]

Absolutely!

 

[Hume]

Stephen168:

But that is Hume’s ethic. There is no rational limit to his ‘freedom,’ so he is free to murder, rob, or enslave.

Liberty is the default state and we only constrain with good reason.

List some rational reasons to limit your tyranny

Ok, if we go around murdering and raping each other, it would lead to increased dissatisfaction in our lives. So no murdering and raping, ok?

It works kinda like that.

 

[VanitasVanitatum]

Sure they do. They’re just asleep.

If they can’t do it while they are asleep then they don’t have it during that moment.

Nay, it cannot act for itself.

Neither do sleeping people.

 

[Stephen168]

“Collectives”! Who talks like this? This sounds like a Communism forum! I’m leaving this group! Sorry, but this isn’t my comfort zone!

Hume’s position is sophistry. There isn’t anything to learn from engaging him.

 

[Hume]

If they can’t make while they are asleep then they don’t have it during that moment.

They still have cognition. They’re just asleep.

A fetus doesn’t have the capacity for cognition. It’s a ball of cells with different DNA.

Neither do sleeping people.

Sure they can. Wake 'em up.

 

[VanitasVanitatum]

Hume’s position is sophistry. There isn’t anything to learn from engaging him.

Let’s keep things civil.

 

[Hume]

Walk-worthy:

“Collectives”! Who talks like this? This sounds like a Communism forum! I’m leaving this group! Sorry, but this isn’t my comfort zone!

Hume’s position is sophistry. There isn’t anything to learn from engaging him.

Had fun, thanks!

 

[Stephen168]

Let’s keep things civil.

I see it as factual.