I know I am always cautious in telling God what to do and how to run His Heaven. I know what I see in Revelation and if that is all that we do in Heaven I’m sure it will be far greater than anything I can imagine and I won’t demean God if that is indeed all we do there. But what I do know is that is what God has in His wisdom made clear we will be doing. Beyond that = speculation by man.
So now it is a different system. Yeah the system of a Baptism of Desire…to die and rise in Christ.
Have you stopped to consider why you need to do this? Surely, after 2,000 years, Christ’s true Church should be able to be found in every city, don’t you think?
Where is your Pope?
Right - and they went to Heaven on the basis of the same Cross and Resurrection that we do. (I Peter 3:19)
And on the same note I could say that the Catholic view is pride at its finest then, since they have the corner on the market of being the true church. But then there are those other pesky groups who also also claim Apostolic Succession.
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Yeah, cause in Baptism we die with him, and we rise with him…it is His application of the Cross to us. In fact the Church says that all the Sacraments are the means in which His merits of the Cross is applied to us.Right - and they went to Heaven on the basis of the same Cross and Resurrection that we do. (I Peter 3:19)
If not, then why belong to it?And we have a rare moment of clarity between us.He was saying that I’m not claiming Southern Baptists as the one, true church. I don’t say that.
Archbishop Fulton Sheen likens them to water taps. There is the rushing river, and there is your kitchen sink. Somehow, the water has to get from the river to your kitchen sink. Wonderful invention, water pipes - they get the water from the river to your sink with a simple twist of the tap.Wow…I like that!
There is Jesus on the Cross, in 33 AD, just outside the walls of Jerusalem.
There is me, a sinner, in Calgary, in 2010 AD. How do we get the blood and water that is gushing from the side of Jesus to wash away my sins today? By means of the Sacraments.
Some of them even have it, although they are in schism from the Church - which is why when you are discerning, you should certainly examine their claims to see if they stand up to historical scrutiny, and whether their doctrines conform to the faith of the ancient Creeds.
Where did I say that she controls it?
Those “bowls of incense” are the prayers of the people on earth, being offered to the Throne of God by the saints who are in Heaven. (the “Elders.”)
Are you saying I’m telling God what to do? Where do you get that?
Well said! If patronising Catholics were an Olympic sport, this man would be a contender for gold. If I did want to ‘ask a baptist pastor’ a question, I would look for one who has some manners and would actually and thoughtfully answer the questions posed. This guy doesn’t want to hear anyone’s voice but his own.
I innocently made a mistake with my post and I got, “What are you talking about?” even if someone said this quietly and sweetly it would still sound sarcastic. It felt just like a slap in the face. I went cold. Ooooooooooh!
I have always wondered how it is possible to profane that which is not present. If it is not, as He said, His Body and His Blood, then how can partaking of it in an unworthy manner profane it? It is like saying someone is disrespecting the flag when there is no flag there.
Wow. this is consistent with some of the earliest records we have of people who have fallen into heresy.
Do you think this passage authorizes you to interpret scripture differently than the authority appointed by Christ?
No, we know that the early Church produced the Scriptures, and that there is nothing in them that is inconsistent with the beliefs and practices of that early Church.
The HS never leads into disobedience, division, factions, and heresy. By their fruits we shall know them.