The part in bold - agreed. I cannot address your concerns or queries because I do not know. I suppose God could have created robot-type people and programed them, so to speak, so that their free will was taken away. :shrug:That would suck. LOL…
Ok. That’s upto your freewill. Nobody can force you to believe, also God want’s one to believe and love him from the fullness of one’s heart. But remember, bible is not one single book. It is collection of holy scriptures. It contains 73 books (Old and new testaments). It is written around 1500 years by various persons. Its first book Genesis written around 1400 BC by Mosess. Its last book revelation is written by Apostle St John around AD 90’s. It is spiritual experiences of various persons through out history. It is written from three different continents (Asia, Africa and Europe). Not from a one single place.
Sorry, I’m totally uninterested in Fatima. I was just trying to help you for the present. You can always buy the book on Amazon or do your own research. I’m not going to say any more about it because I didn’t bring it up in the first place, it’s a non-entity in my worldview. Good luck!
It’s interesting that you say this, most Catholics seem to think that it is the word of God dictated to humans. It’s kind of heartening that you believe this. It’s also my belief.
And it’s not that I don’t believe, it’s that I don’t believe in the capricious and violent god of the bible.
Then what you talking about, is not paganism. It is pantheism. Most often pagans uses these types of philosophies to attract others to their faith , instead of directly inviting others to worship their idols. When one person got attracted to their ideologies , they will lead them to the second stage, introducing about their imaginary Gods in place of these natural forces.
I am expressing my faith. I am telling why I disagrees with you. If you have anything to tell me why I am wrong, you can point out that.
By the term Paganism, I mean worship of Idols, which is a result of human imagination. Searching of God through natural forces is Animism and Not paganism. Both are different. Ancient human beings considered the forces of nature which are beyond their control as Gods who rules them.Incorrect, but I’ve pointed that out before, including not all pagans being polytheistic - Did you inadvertently miss it or are choosing to ignore in order to maintain your argument?
That means you dont understand what christian God is. We believe in Holy trinity. There is only one God. God himself. When moses asked about his name, he didnt told a particular individual name (what pagan gods uses - such Zeus ) . He told I am who I am. He God of all. He is unkowable. We can realize him only through Jesus Christ , incarnation of word of God (Son).
Go through the video Link I provided. Your doubts about christian God is answered there in simple language. He is one true God (who was unknowable to humanity) , who revealed himself through Jesus Christ.There’s only one god you follow, this is true. But certainly not the only or true god, no matter how many videos you link to. The need to denounce that which one either fears and/or does not understand doesn’t change their divinity or existence.
Bible is not a dictation to human beings. Judaism is not originated after writing all old testament books. Christianity is not originated after writing all new testament books. But it is spiritual experience of prophets and people with God. It is Guidelines that God gave to humanity through them. It is words of God , It also contains history of nation of Israel. Bible is not a revelation to one single person. It is collection of 73 books (sacred scriptures). It took 1500 years to complete the book. Its first book Genesis is written by Moses around 1400 BC and Last book revelation is written by Apostle St John around AD 90. It is not written in a single place. It is written from various places , in three different continents (Asia, Africa and Europe). Also traditional christian faith (Catholicism/ Orthodoxy) is not only depend upon the bible alone but also Sacred traditions and liturgy have equal importance.It’s interesting that you say this, most Catholics seem to think that it is the word of God dictated to humans. It’s kind of heartening that you believe this. It’s also my belief.
The Upanishads are also a wonderful compilation of experiences of God, but that god is truly a loving god, there is no violence in the Upanishads, or stories about God killing thousands of his creation, etc. It’s always made much more sense to me than the bible. Easwaran is one of the best translators in case you’re interested in giving it a read.
Can you tell me which pagan God you found as merciful.?. As per my knowledge and belief most of the pagan gods wear a weapon. Most of their mythologies are full of war and violence. What you mean by merciful god?. A forgiving machine?. Forgiving all faults of everyone without repentance?. Christ is a merciful God. He will forgive the sins of those persons who repent from their pure heart. He will punish a person or community if they are hopelessly continues in sinful life. It is for re establishing Goodness in this world.And it’s not that I don’t believe, it’s that I don’t believe in the capricious and violent god of the bible.
No I understand the argument for free will, but Satan isn’t necessary for the existence of that.
We do not worship idols we worship the Gods.
Tell me about your God
God is everywhere, transcendent, made up of all life and impersonal. the “Is All”.
God is everywhere and transcendent - It is not contradictory to christian faith.
You do not believe in Satan. OK.
Actually, I hope you are right. No one belonging to the CC hopes hell is real; the exact opposite! I suppose everyone will find out in the end.God is made up of all life. this dosnt mean we are gods, but we are all part of the ultimate reality, from the smallest single celled organism to the largest metaphysical force.
What do you mean when you say that “God is made up of all life”?
If we are part of God, then why we are not called as Gods?. If we are part of God then how we can do sin?. How sin (impurity) exists in God?. If we are part of God, then our sins will be binding on God and God is a sinner?. If everything is part of God, is it mean evil spirit (satan) is also part of God?
I could be wrong but I do not believe that Skadi believes in the existence of Satan. However, those are some good questions.
