Ask about Islam round 3!

[Muslim_Woman]

In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Salaam/peace

what is the islamic counter to this assertion?

Islam teaches us that God created sun , moon , us , everything else between earth & heaven etc .

Prophet Muhammed (p) never taught anyone to worship any deity except one true God . Muslims never worship sun or moon.

Few related verses on sun , moon.

“And from among His Signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. **Do not bow down (prostrate) to the sun nor to the moon, but only bow down (prostrate) to “Allah” Who created them, **if you (really) worship Him.” [Quran 41:37]

It is He Who made the sun a shining thing and the moon as a light and measured out its (their) stages, that you might know the number of years and the reckoning.

Allah did not create this but in truth.
He explains the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) in detail for people who have knowledge.

( سورة يونس , Yunus, Chapter #10, Verse #5)

Allah is He Who raised the heavens without any pillars that you can see.

Then, He Istawa (rose above) the Throne (really in a manner that suits His Majesty). He has subjected the sun and the moon (to continue going round)! Each running (its course) for a term appointed.

He regulates all affairs, explaining the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) in detail, that you may believe with certainty in the meeting with your Lord.

( سورة الرعد , Ar-Rad, Chapter #13, Verse #2)

And He has made the sun and the moon, both constantly pursuing their courses, to be of service to you; and He has made the night and the day, to be of service to you.

( سورة إبراهيم , Ibrahim, Chapter #14, Verse #33)

And He it is Who has created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon, each in an orbit floating.

( سورة الأنبياء , Al-Anbiya, Chapter #21, Verse #33)

related link:

Lies About “Allah” - From Christian Ph.D. Robert Morey

Quran proves - “Allah” is NOT a ‘moon god’:

islamtomorrow.com/allah/moon_god.asp

 

[Muslim_Woman]

In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Salaam/peace

…Why? According to Islam, why was Jesus given a miraculous birth and the other “prophets” were not?

answered more than once. We can’t challenge our Creator why He created Adam (p) without father , mother ; why He allowed Moses (p) to divided sea , why He ordered fire to be cool for Abraham (p) etc etc. It was a will of God that Jesus (p) will be born without father. But God does not beget or God was not begotten. So , Jesus peace be upon him is a blessed messenger of God but not God Himself.

Does not matter how much miracles a Prophet performed , it did not make him equal to God. Miracles took place with the power of God. Why miracles happened ? May be , it’s a test from God --who believed in His signs & who rejects .

And God knows Best.

 

[Muslim_Woman]

In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Salaam/peace

Paradise… Not My Cup of Tea

Zara - United Kingdom

…There are too many rules…Like I don’t want to wear a scarf, I want to have fun and that’s another thing, it doesn’t seem like Islam is a religion where fun is allowed

Dr.Jamal Badawi :…Who am I? Why am I here on this planet? Do I have any mission on earth or do I just live and die like all other living beings? What will happen to me after I die?

…Whoever chooses to follow the right path does so for his or her own good.

Say [O Muhammad] to whoever deviates from it, ‘I am only here to warn.’

Say, ‘Praise belongs to Allah: He will show you His signs so that you will recognize them.’ Your Lord is never unmindful of what you all do
(An-Naml 27:92-93)

…In the Quran and Hadith, we find numerous references to the functionality and beauty of the creation of Allah that are created for our benefit and enjoyment.

Picnics, sports, and other hobbies are encouraged so long as there is no violation of Islam’s moral code. As such Islam does not mean “no fun”, unless we mean by “fun”, I do whatever I “feel like” doing without any restraint or guiding rules.

…Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) taught that Allah prepared for His faithful servants in Paradise what no eye has ever seen, no ear has ever heard, and no thought ever occurred to a human mind. Read, if you will, the Quranic verse that says:

{No soul knows what joy is kept hidden in store for them as a reward of what they have done} (As-Sajdah 32:17).

With this in mind, it is impossible that there would be any toil, suffering, deprivation, grief, or boredom in Paradise. All such earthly concepts are totally irrelevant to the assured blissful joy and ever renewed delights and surprises in Paradise.

As to the punishment of those who reject faith in Allah and deliberately disobey Him, we must remember the following:

a. There are always consequences for any decision we make; positive or negative.

b. Allah is Just. This implies that the do-gooder and the wrongdoer can not be equated. A student who did virtually nothing in a course should not be getting an “A” like others who legitimately earned that mark.

…Allah does not enjoy punishing people in the fire. As Allah says in the Quran :

{Why should Allah make you suffer torment if you are thankful and believe in Him? Allah always rewards gratitude and He knows everything} (An-Nisaa’ 4:147)

Useful Links:

Islam and the Human Being

How Do We Know Islam Is the Truth?

Life After Death…What’s the Proof?

Muslims and Fun: Culture or Religion?

Fun and Celebrations in Islam

The Description of Paradise

Is Paradise Just Spiritual Pleasure?

What Is Islam About?

Why Do We Need Islam?

readingislam.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1226331243400&pagename=IslamOnline-English-AAbout_Islam%2FAskAboutIslamE%2FAskAboutIslamE

 

[sambos671]

In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Salaam/peace

Islam teaches us that God created sun , moon , us , everything else between earth & heaven etc .

Prophet Muhammed (p) never taught anyone to worship any deity except one true God . Muslims never worship sun or moon.

Few related verses on sun , moon.

“And from among His Signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. **Do not bow down (prostrate) to the sun nor to the moon, but only bow down (prostrate) to “Allah” Who created them, **if you (really) worship Him.” [Quran 41:37]

It is He Who made the sun a shining thing and the moon as a light and measured out its (their) stages, that you might know the number of years and the reckoning.

Allah did not create this but in truth.
He explains the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) in detail for people who have knowledge.

( سورة يونس , Yunus, Chapter #10, Verse #5)

Allah is He Who raised the heavens without any pillars that you can see.

Then, He Istawa (rose above) the Throne (really in a manner that suits His Majesty). He has subjected the sun and the moon (to continue going round)! Each running (its course) for a term appointed.

He regulates all affairs, explaining the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) in detail, that you may believe with certainty in the meeting with your Lord.

( سورة الرعد , Ar-Rad, Chapter #13, Verse #2)

And He has made the sun and the moon, both constantly pursuing their courses, to be of service to you; and He has made the night and the day, to be of service to you.

( سورة إبراهيم , Ibrahim, Chapter #14, Verse #33)

And He it is Who has created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon, each in an orbit floating.

( سورة الأنبياء , Al-Anbiya, Chapter #21, Verse #33)

related link:

Lies About “Allah” - From Christian Ph.D. Robert Morey

Quran proves - “Allah” is NOT a ‘moon god’:

islamtomorrow.com/allah/moon_god.asp

I know that Muslims do not believe they are worshiping a “moon god” but I was wondering about the Etymology of the word Allah.

 

[Jay53]

Muslim Woman;4836702]**
answered more than once.**

Where was this answered more than once? I asked this same question in another thread and received no coherent answer - unless I just missed it.

We can’t challenge our Creator why He created Adam (p) without father , mother ; why He allowed Moses (p) to divided sea , why He ordered fire to be cool for Abraham (p) etc etc. It was a will of God that Jesus (p) will be born without father. But God does not beget or God was not begotten. So , Jesus peace be upon him is a blessed messenger of God but not God Himself.

So, in other words, there is no significance? It is viewed as just another type of miracle allowed by God to a prophet?

Then what is the Islamic rationalization/explanation for the disparity between the life and message of Jesus vs. the life and message of Muhammad?

In other words, if you take away the identity of the prophet and just present the message and example of his life, which one would be obviously from God and which one not.

For example:

Anonymous Prophet 1:

Born of a virgin, prophesied about in the OT, lived a chaste life, sinless (objectively when compared to the Ten Commandments), free from mistakes (i.e. not reprimanded by God for any wrong-doing), healed the sick, raised the dead, message is of peace, no messages of violence/killing

“But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,” Matthew 5:44

vs.

Anonymous Prophet 2:

Not born of a virgin, not prophesied about in the OT, had multiple wives and ‘right-hand possessions’, encouraged lying, encouraged murder, made “mistakes” where he was ‘reprimanded by God’, message is mixed, some peace/some violence:

“But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in Allah. for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things).”
( سورة الأنفال , Al-Anfal, Chapter #8, Verse #61) and

"Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): “I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.”
( سورة الأنفال , Al-Anfal, Chapter #8, Verse #12)

Qur’an 2:191: And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers

Qur’an 4:089: They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah’s way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

Without knowing the identity of the above prophets, which would you honestly say is conveying the message of God? Or is this comparison only glaringly obvious to me?

Muslim Woman

:And God knows Best.

I agree. And that is why God keeps renewing His message - Jesus and Blessed Mother have appeared to numerous people throughout the centuries to renew God’s message and affirm the Truth in Christianity.

 

[Jay53]

I have another general question about Islam - although I would still like an answer to my last post - I guess I’ll post it here because I’m not sure that it merits its own thread.

Can Muslims who speak English use the terms “Allah” and “God” interchangeably since they are purported to mean the same thing, or do all Islamic prayers have to be said using “Allah”?

 

[Muslim_Woman]

In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Salaam/peace

… do all Islamic prayers have to be said using “Allah”?

It’s a must to recite the first chapter & other few lines from holy Quran in our daily 5 times prayers.

When we offer dua/supplication , it’s allowed to do in our mother tongue.

 

[Muslim_Woman]

In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Salaam/peace

**

The Adhan (The Call to Prayer)

The adhan is the call given to announce that it is time for a particular obligatory Salah (ritual Prayer).
**

Amazing as it sounds, but fortunately for the Muslims of the world, it is an established fact.
Have a look at a map of the world and you will find
Indonesia on the eastern side of the earth.

The major cities of Indonesia are Java, Sumatra,
Borneo and Saibil. As soon as dawn breaks on the eastern side of Saibil, at approximately 5:30 am local time, the Fajr Adhan begins.

Thousands of Muaddhins in
Indonesia begin reciting the Adhan.
The process advances towards
West Indonesia.

One and a half hours after the Adhan has been completed in Saibil, it echoes in
Jakarta. Sumatra then follows suit and before this auspicious process of calling Adhan ends in Indonesia, it has already begun in
Malaysia.

Burma is next in line, and within an hour of its beginning in Jakarta, it reaches Dhaka, the capital city of
Bangladesh.

After Bangladesh, it has already prevailed in western India, from Calcutta to
Srinagar. It then advances towards Bombay and the environment of the entire
India resounds with this proclamation.

Srinagar and Sialkot (a north city in Pakistan) have the same timing for Adhan. The time difference between Sialkot, Quetta, and Karachi is forty minutes, and within this time, the Fajr Adhan is heard throughout
Pakistan.

Before it ends there, it has already begun in Afghanistan and
Muscat. The time difference between Muscat and
Baghdad is one hour. The Adhan resounds during this one hour in the environments of Hijaaz-e-Muqaddas (Holy cities of Makkah and Madinah), Yemen, United Arab Emirates, Kuwait and
Iraq.

The time difference between Baghdad and Alexandria in
Egypt is again one hour. The Adhan continues to resound in Syria, Egypt, Somalia and
Sudan during this hour. The time difference between eastern and western Turkey is one and a half hours, and during this time it is echoed with the call to prayer.
Alexandria and Tripoli (capital of
Libya) are located at one hour’s difference.

The process of calling the Adhan thus continues throughout the whole of Africa. Therefore, the proclamation of the “Tawheed” and “Risaalat” that had begun in Indonesia reaches the Eastern Shore of the Atlantic Ocean after nine and half hours. Prior to the Adhan reaching the shores of the Atlantic, the process of the “Dhuhr Adhan” has already started in east Indonesia, and before it reaches Dhaka, the “’Asr Adhan” has started.

This has hardly reached Jakarta one and half hours later, the time of “Maghrib” becomes due, and no sooner has “Maghrib” time reached Sumatra, the time for calling the “’Isha Adhan” has commenced in Saibil!
When the Muaddhins of Indonesia are calling out the “Fajr Adhan”, the African Muaddhins are calling the Adhan for Isha.

If we were to ponder over this phenomenon thoughtfully, we would conclude the amazing fact that there is not even a single moment when hundreds of thousands of Muaddhins around the world are not reciting the Adhan on the surface of this earth.

Even as you read this material right now, you can be sure there are at least thousands of people who are hearing and reciting the Adhan!!!

nur313.wordpress.com/2006/08/04/adhaan-across-the-world/

 

[Jay53]

**It’s a must to recite the first chapter & other few lines from holy Quran in our daily 5 times prayers.

When we offer dua/supplication , it’s allowed to do in our mother tongue.**

OK. Thank you. Is this because the translations are not correct, or not acceptable?

And, any answers to my questions in post #515?

 

[Muslimah727]

Truth is many Christians cherry-pick the bible and have not read it in it’s entirety. I say this because you would be surprised about the things you find in your own bible if you take the time to read it. The bible has been tampered with by man, which is why Allah sent the Qur’an. Which has been preserved over the years. Parts of the original Qur’an still exist in Egypt. Where is the original bible? Did’nt King James get rid of those in order to control his unruly people? just curious

They “think” that Muhammad was predicted in both the OT and NT. They can have whatever they think, and I won’t argue them. Next, they will dig whatever holybook from whatever religion, and take anything that would fit Muhammad in regardless of context, flow of logic and the circumstances.

 

[Reuben_J]

Truth is many Christians cherry-pick the bible and have not read it in it’s entirety. I say this because you would be surprised about the things you find in your own bible if you take the time to read it. The bible has been tampered with by man, which is why Allah sent the Qur’an. Which has been preserved over the years. Parts of the original Qur’an still exist in Egypt. Where is the original bible? Did’nt King James get rid of those in order to control his unruly people? just curious

Hi there.

You have to be careful before making accusation like that.

Many of the Christians here are quite well-versed in the Bible. All you need is to ask if you want some clarification on Biblical verses and the theology behind them.

There are accusation that the Bible has been tampered with by anti-Bible people but so far there is no evidence to this.

Peace.

 

[Muslimah727]

I am quite aware of that but the percentage of christians here compared to the rest of the world is quite slim. Also, the many contradictions that occur within the texts of the bible and facts written by theologians and well learned historistics can tell you the bible has been interfered with. I could be wrong but there are many different verisons of the bible floating all across the world.

 

[Reuben_J]

I am quite aware of that but the percentage of christians here compared to the rest of the world is quite slim. Also, the many contradictions that occur within the texts of the bible and facts written by theologians and well learned historistics can tell you the bible has been interfered with. I could be wrong but there are many different verisons of the bible floating all across the world.

Oh, I think it’s no different where Muslims are minority in a country. People tend to have little knowledge about it too.

The so-called contradictions are certain minor texts written by different authors of the Bible which are no contradictions at all. In any case, there is no theological contradiction. The Bible is not written verbatims but inspired writings. God put the message on the authors and the authors wrote them according to their command of the language and literary style.

There is no different versions of the Bible but different translations. Again there are many different denominations in Christianity which do not use certain books in the Bible. Basically, when you are here you will encounter the majority who are Catholics.

BTW, welcome to the forum.

 

[Muslimah_429]

Oh, I think it’s no different where Muslims are minority in a country. People tend to have little knowledge about it too.

The so-called contradictions are certain minor texts written by different authors of the Bible which are no contradictions at all. In any case, there is no theological contradiction. The Bible is not written verbatims but inspired writings. God put the message on the authors and the authors wrote them according to their command of the language and literary style.

There is no different versions of the Bible but different translations. Again there are many different denominations in Christianity which do not use certain books in the Bible. Basically, when you are here you will encounter the majority who are Catholics.

BTW, welcome to the forum.

OKAY soooo im juss curious as to what is a minor text difference…and also if you say there are no different bibles but different translations how come Christians don’t feel the need to learn the language of the bible in order to be able to read it and get a full understanding of what is says?

 

[inJESUS]

Truth is many Christians cherry-pick the bible and have not read it in it’s entirety. I say this because you would be surprised about the things you find in your own bible if you take the time to read it. The bible has been tampered with by man, which is why Allah sent the Qur’an. Which has been preserved over the years. Parts of the original Qur’an still exist in Egypt. Where is the original bible? Did’nt King James get rid of those in order to control his unruly people? just curious

truth is you come here telling us you do not have a Bible because everything you need is in the Quran yet you claim in this thread to be an expert on the Bible and its history.

 

[inJESUS]

OKAY soooo im juss curious as to what is a minor text difference…and also if you say there are no different bibles but different translations how come Christians don’t feel the need to learn the language of the bible in order to be able to read it and get a full understanding of what is says?

for the same reason many muslims do not know Arabic.

whether we know Greek or Aramaic does not mean we will find the Quran in the gospels and this applies to the Quran. Beside, you tend to forget that we have a tradition as well . Add to it that there are many who know greek, Aramaic, hebrew and Latin and not surprisingly, there are still Christians, not Muslims.

 

[CatholicRevert1]

**The Holy Bible is the original word of God. It’s not a copy or imitation like Koran. It was not written by just one man. But the Holy Bible contains the revelations and oracles of many holy Prophets who lived from the beginning of the world. These scriptures are very closely connected with each other. It works like a follow up. It’s an account of God’s work from the beginning and also His plans for the future. The New Testament is a continuation of the Torah which is the Old Testament. All the prophets wrote about the coming of Jesus as the Messiah, Moses, Joshua, Samuel, David, Elijah, Solomon, Isaiah, Daniel, and the Apostles of Lord Jesus Christ are the authors of the Bible. The Bible is not a one man’s account like Quran. The Bible did not pop up overnight either. The Koran is only 1400 hundred years old. God was there even before that. God in the Bible is not just 1400 years old. He is from everlasting to everlasting. 'He is Eternal God. If anyone wants to know about this God, he or she needs to read and understand the Holy Bible. They need to examine what the Holy Prophets and Scriptures have been telling from the beginning of the world about this great and awesome God. Koran cannot establish anything without the help of the ancient Scriptures which were already there before Mohammad came and formed a religion.
**

 

[Reuben_J]

OKAY soooo im juss curious as to what is a minor text difference…and also if you say there are no different bibles but different translations how come Christians don’t feel the need to learn the language of the bible in order to be able to read it and get a full understanding of what is says?

Wow, you keep on coming with statements. But don’t worry, I understand that most Muslims’ knowledge of Christianity is very minimal and most of the information that they have they got it from their Imams, which does not help much either. They simply pass the misconceptions and errors to you.

I don’t feel like telling you the minor textual difference because to me there is no contradiction at all. I was responding to you who said that there were contradictions in the Bible. Remember? Normally when a person make a statement like that he/she would give examples so that they can be addressed accordingly.

Another thing, Christians do not feel that there is no need to learn the Bible. Where did you get that kind of information? We have Bible colleges and institutions and like I said many Christian posters here are quite adequate in their Bible knowledge. They have full understanding of what it says. Wow, that’s incredible statement from such a new poster. Just tell us what you need to know and we would be pleased to explain it to you.

 

[Nicolas]

why was John 7:53 to 8:11 not in the original manuscripts ??
and this verse too:
“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”

just wondering

 

[CatholicRevert1]

OKAY soooo im juss curious as to what is a minor text difference…and also if you say there are no different bibles but different translations how come Christians don’t feel the need to learn the language of the bible in order to be able to read it and get a full understanding of what is says?

Read this site - he is ex-Muslim and explains things very well from a Muslim perspective. Do not believe everything your Imams and “scholars” tell you. They would hardly admit that Christianity is right would they. You will be judged on your own life by God so please start to question your religion. Christians can and are still the largest religion in the world! gilead.ws/answeringislam.html